[Johnny B]

I am pleased that you are recovering Richy. Fair play to you for sticking with things after what you have been through. 

Best wishes,
John

[Nameless Drudge]

Ditch the pills,they`ll make you come funny !

Plus you are almost certainly not depressed enough for medication,don`t let anyone get you into "patient" mode,they will get more out of it than you unless you are devilishly cunning.

Anyway your on here spouting so your fixed,

[GDwindowcleaning]

Good luck mate, it did get a bit like a soap opera at times but I am sure no one realised how bad things were....

You have achieved a lot and should be proud, use your business as a positive not a negative....

[G Griffin]

Ditch the pills,they`ll make you come funny !

Plus you are almost certainly not depressed enough for medication,don`t let anyone get you into "patient" mode,they will get more out of it than you unless you are devilishly cunning.

Anyway your on here spouting so your fixed,

How do you come to these conclusions, in Richywilts's case?

[deeege]

Ditch the pills,they`ll make you come funny !

Plus you are almost certainly not depressed enough for medication,don`t let anyone get you into "patient" mode,they will get more out of it than you unless you are devilishly cunning.

Anyway your on here spouting so your fixed,

I'd trust richys doctors diagnosis over yours I'm afraid.

Chin up richy, just remember there is always somebody out there worse off than yourself.

[colley614]

Just Do It!

[AshWhite]

Ditch the pills,they`ll make you come funny !

Plus you are almost certainly not depressed enough for medication,don`t let anyone get you into "patient" mode,they will get more out of it than you unless you are devilishly cunning.

Anyway your on here spouting so your fixed,

I'd trust richys doctors diagnosis over yours I'm afraid.

Chin up richy, just remember there is always somebody out there worse off than yourself.

I was doing a little sweepstake on this thread - was waiting for the inevitable "Chin up" line!

[Nameless Drudge]

Ditch the pills,they`ll make you come funny !

Plus you are almost certainly not depressed enough for medication,don`t let anyone get you into "patient" mode,they will get more out of it than you unless you are devilishly cunning.

Anyway your on here spouting so your fixed,

How do you come to these conclusions, in Richwilts's case?

I`m a recovering Irish Catholic Alcoholic there isn`t anything i can`t tell you about "depression".

Incidentally there is no such thing as Addiction and Alcoholism is not a disease.

[colin purewater]

It means he has an excuse for not making any sense

[H S and Son]

I`m a recovering Irish Catholic Alcoholic there isn`t anything i can`t tell you about "depression".

Incidentally there is no such thing as Addiction and Alcoholism is not a disease.

Would I be right in thinking that alcoholics are self-absorbed, self-centred, ego-centric individuals who think they know just about everything there is to know, even if they have no experience of it whatsoever; have an opinion on just about everything, and dont mind telling you what it is even if they haven't been asked. Spend all day putting the world to rights in there imaginary universe between their ears and look down on anything and everything, in that annoyingly superior fashion of peering down their noses, that might possibly be considered as being either superior or better than them?

[Nameless Drudge]

I`m a recovering Irish Catholic Alcoholic there isn`t anything i can`t tell you about "depression".

Incidentally there is no such thing as Addiction and Alcoholism is not a disease.

Would I be right in thinking that alcoholics are self-absorbed, self-centred, ego-centric individuals who think they know just about everything there is to know, even if they have no experience of it whatsoever; have an opinion on just about everything, and dont mind telling you what it is even if they haven't been asked. Spend all day putting the world to rights in there imaginary universe between their ears and look down on anything and everything, in that annoyingly superior fashion of peering down their noses, that might possibly be considered as being either superior or better than them?

In many cases this is about right,its about playing GOD and the lust to be in control.The Alcoholics Anonymous programme amongst  other things attempts to reduce the ego of the alcoholic.
 In my case i`m not quite sure what happened but as total honesty came to me i was no longer able to pretend i was a lesser being !

[Window Washers]

I`m a recovering Irish Catholic Alcoholic there isn`t anything i can`t tell you about "depression".

Incidentally there is no such thing as Addiction and Alcoholism is not a disease.

Would I be right in thinking that alcoholics are self-absorbed, self-centred, ego-centric individuals who think they know just about everything there is to know, even if they have no experience of it whatsoever; have an opinion on just about everything, and dont mind telling you what it is even if they haven't been asked. Spend all day putting the world to rights in there imaginary universe between their ears and look down on anything and everything, in that annoyingly superior fashion of peering down their noses, that might possibly be considered as being either superior or better than them?

http://dr-c.hubpages.com/hub/How-does-one-deal-with-a-member-of-the-family-with-Narcissistic-Personality-Disorder

[Griffus]

I remember around the time that Gary Speed commited suicide, if he could sink so low then surely it could happen to pretty much anyone?! I remember just hours earlier he seemed totally OK on Football Focus.

Anyway, Stan Collymore posted an in depth view of depression from his own, first hand experience. This was actually posted before Gary's suicide  so it's not that he was seeking publicity.

His article changed my view of him, it gives a true insight into what those with depression go through. I think we have all known or at least suspected knowing someone close to us that is suffering from this.

Well worth five minutes of anyones tme. Here it is: -

http://www.wsc.co.uk/content/view/8039/38/

http://www.twitlonger.com/show/ecoqm1

Richy, like someone as already said, probably best to keep this off here and stick to talking with a professional.

[H S and Son]

So being totally honest, as you say you are, wouldn't it be be better to suggest Richy continues with his medication as suggested by his G.P, who is far more likely to understand what is going on, rather than by an alcoholic who has never met the chap, nor knows his situation.

Im sure you have experience of depression, of which there are many many kinds, but you dont have experience of Richy's, do you. I mean, diagnosing Richys condition over the internet is a bit like you coming on here and saying your WFP system isn't working and me saying its the fuse, when I havent go a clue about what might be the problem. It could be anything, the fuse might be the last thing to be concerned about.

Suggestions to Richy to come off his medication is a bit like saying to a cancer sufferer that they dont need their radiotherapy. Surely you're expressing that opinion I mentioned earlier when I refered to the alcoholic who thinks he knows everything when in fact he knows nothing?

[poleman]

Richard, I had depression about 4 years ago now so know where your coming from, please dont depend on the drugs as they are only masking your problems! good book that help me was Don't Sweat the Small Stuff...really good read...best of luck mate  

[G Griffin]

I`m a recovering Irish Catholic Alcoholic there isn`t anything i can`t tell you about "depression".

Incidentally there is no such thing as Addiction and Alcoholism is not a disease.

Would I be right in thinking that alcoholics are self-absorbed, self-centred, ego-centric individuals who think they know just about everything there is to know, even if they have no experience of it whatsoever; have an opinion on just about everything, and dont mind telling you what it is even if they haven't been asked. Spend all day putting the world to rights in there imaginary universe between their ears and look down on anything and everything, in that annoyingly superior fashion of peering down their noses, that might possibly be considered as being either superior or better than them?

In many cases this is about right,its about playing GOD and the lust to be in control.The Alcoholics Anonymous programme amongst  other things attempts to reduce the ego of the alcoholic.
In my case i`m not quite sure what happened but as total honesty came to me i was no longer able to pretend i was a lesser being !

Now I see why you're qualified to come to those conclusions. You're good.

[Nameless Drudge]

So being totally honest, as you say you are, wouldn't it be be better to suggest Richy continues with his medication as suggested by his G.P, who is far more likely to understand what is going on, rather than by an alcoholic who has never met the chap, nor knows his situation.

Im sure you have experience of depression, of which there are many many kinds, but you dont have experience of Richy's, do you. I mean, diagnosing Richys condition over the internet is a bit like you coming on here and saying your WFP system isn't working and me saying its the fuse, when I havent go a clue about what might be the problem. It could be anything, the fuse might be the last thing to be concerned about.

Suggestions to Richy to come off his medication is a bit like saying to a cancer sufferer that they dont need their radiotherapy. Surely you're expressing that opinion I mentioned earlier when I refered to the alcoholic who thinks he knows everything when in fact he knows nothing?

This is actually about "your" interpretation of an alcoholic and its very possible that you are now self-indulging.

[richywilts]

I remember around the time that Gary Speed commited suicide, if he could sink so low then surely it could happen to pretty much anyone?! I remember just hours earlier he seemed totally OK on Football Focus.

Anyway, Stan Collymore posted an in depth view of depression from his own, first hand experience. This was actually posted before Gary's suicide  so it's not that he was seeking publicity.

His article changed my view of him, it gives a true insight into what those with depression go through. I think we have all known or at least suspected knowing someone close to us that is suffering from this.

Well worth five minutes of anyones tme. Here it is: -

http://www.wsc.co.uk/content/view/8039/38/

http://www.twitlonger.com/show/ecoqm1

Richy, like someone as already said, probably best to keep this off here and stick to talking with a professional.

good post ian read stan collymores article interesting to read

[Nameless Drudge]

Just read it,a strange one is that Collymore,tires himself to exhaustion then gets upset about it,worries about it,destructive behaviour,definitely doesn`t like not being superman,needs to identify a get out clause.

[rosskesava]

I can't see why Richy Wilts shouldn't post on this forum that's he's been, and still is, suffering from depression.

As for whether depression is an illness or not, it doesn't matter. If what ever he has affects his life to the extent it obviously has, then him or 'it' needs treatment.

It's the same for addictions or alcoholism. Whether they're illness's or not doesn't matter one hoot, they both need treatment of some kind.

It's like someone going to the doctor who has an actual illness and someone else going to the doctor thinking they have an actual illness when they don't. They both need to see a doctor but for different reasons. Both have symptoms that mean there's a problem.

So Richy, carry on posting mate. I'm sure you'll get there in the end if for no other reason than your prepared to admit you have problems but your trying to over come them.

Compared to some of the willy wavers and tarzan chest bashing types on this forum who are all things to everything window cleaning, Richy's posts are in a way refreshing.

Cheers