[Dave Willis]

Half way point on my newest pole.

the poles are high modulus which refers to the carbon manufacture I believe rather than meaning modular. They have a similar feel to the S2 in construction but are much stronger. Basically they are telescopic poles but are as close in lightness to a modular carbon pole as you can get.

[www.com]

The main point being established is they do not work like a normal pole. Having 'half way' points on one size does not mute this point. So to say 'I haven't got a clue' is again unfounded.

Like I said, I'm here to bring balance to the world. Remove the scales from the eyes of blinded.

(I'm jesting, let's not take ourselves to seriously!)

[Dave Willis]

I give up.

[dazmond]

ill be investing in a 40ft SUPERMAX when funds allow to go alongside my 25ft SLX and 22ft CLX.then if i get a job requiring extra height i will buy 2 extra sections taking me up to 50ft.

thatll be the limit for me as a one man band.i dont fancy cleaning ANY windows above 50ft really!!


regards


dazmond

[SherwoodCleaningSe]

Ive seen a picture of the supermax and the xtreme both extended at an angle next to each other. The xtreme was a lot more rigid by far. Add to that you have the option to go higher if you then add the modular sections.

When the xtreme first came out it only clamped on full lengths of pole, the 50 had a base section that could be clamped anywhere giving you a bit of versatility. Now thoughl I'm led to believe that all the sections clamp half way as well as full length.

It really is unlike any other pole and in my opinion worth the extra if you have the work for it.

Simon.

[Erithwc]

I was going to get a extreme with all extra section to reach 40ft and use it for residential one pole for every thing but now on lnow that you need to full orhalf way extend every section i think i will get a slx 18 and slx 35 

Paul

[Dave Willis]

Makes little difference really, you are only talking two and a half feet. In practice it's no different to any other telescopic - you just step forward or back a few inches to compensate for small adjustments. I use 30' as my every day pole it's that good and rarely take any sections off at all. Does bungalows and up to three storeys and velux roof lights.

[♠Winp®oClean♠]

Well technically it is telescopic, but it's either open fully or closed, no in between. In that way it's modular.

are all sections like that or only last stages ?

Yes all are like that

Well you're wrong on both accounts Mr. Industry

1. there is an "in between" clamping point
2. all telescopic up to 47 & then modular

 

Just to make things perfectly clear as your obviously confused and haven't actually got one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRlhDD3YoG8&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Wet behind the ears  

Yes, you are VERY wet behind the ears Mr. Industry! :

Yes, I have the 47ft version! I also had the 48ft version too.

The Xtreme 47 CAN be clamped in three points per section- closed, open & halfway!

You, on the other hand have OBVIOUSLEY NOT got one or even seen one in the flesh have you? : And that my friend is why you talk rubbish! If you had, I can assure you, you would be of the same opinion of everyone else who has one & you would fully appreciate why the pole pole works as it does- best pole bar none!

[dazmond]

mr industry and gary nee are internet trolls.please take no notice of em!!i think they just like trying to wind people up!!

[Tom White]

mr industry and gary nee are internet trolls.please take no notice of em!!i think they just like trying to wind people up!!

Gary won't be visiting us for a while, he's on ROPs, but Mr Industry does present a good argument, even if he is wrong. 

It'd be a boring forum if we all agreed on the same thing.

[♠Winp®oClean♠]

Well technically it is telescopic, but it's either open fully or closed, no in between. In that way it's modular.

are all sections like that or only last stages ?

Yes all are like that

Well you're wrong on both accounts Mr. Industry

1. there is an "in between" clamping point
2. all telescopic up to 47 & then modular

 

so are you saying the pole cant be used as a normal pole under 47' ? as in clamp at any point below this, i get the modular part, but the telescoping part is confused?

Each section can only be clamped closed, fully open or halfway, The rest of each section is narrower to reduce weight. You might think this strange when used to conventional poles & given, this design on any other pole might be an issue but- with a pole as light & rigid as the Xtreme it isn't an issue. Also bear in mind the shorter Xtreme poles also have shorter sections to begin with. Using an Xtreme 25 is literally like cleaning with a pencil!! If you have an slx, it's like going from an old F/G pole to an slx!

[Tom White]

Using an Xtreme 25 is literally like cleaning with a pencil!! If you have an slx, it's like going from an old F/G pole to an slx!

I've just looked at the SLX 18 and the Extreme 18, there's about 180grams of weight between the two.  180g is a little less than two dry portions of pasta; think of a small fist full of dry spaghetti.

Do you really think there's that much difference between the two poles in practical use?

And if so, is that difference worth the price cost (which I think is about double)?

[♠Winp®oClean♠]

Using an Xtreme 25 is literally like cleaning with a pencil!! If you have an slx, it's like going from an old F/G pole to an slx!

I've just looked at the SLX 18 and the Extreme 18, there's about 180grams of weight between the two.  180g is a little less than two dry portions of pasta; think of a small fist full of dry spaghetti.

Do you really think there's that much difference between the two poles in practical use?

And if so, is that difference worth the price cost (which I think is about double)?

I wouldn't like to say on an 18ft situation. My reference is to the 25ft. For 25ft there is a real difference & the extra money is definitely worth it.

[Tom White]

Thanks, win, that was useful.

[keyser soze]

does anyone on here clean at 80 feet.id be interested to know id love to spend a day with these guys

[Alex Gardiner]

Hi Guys

Thank you for all of the above interest and comments on our products.

To answer the initial question there is a very big difference in performance between a Super-Max45 and an Xtreme47. Like the rest of the medium-modulus carbon poles in the Super-Max range the Super-Max45 is a very usable pole, however when to comes to real performance then the Xtreme is like working with a different tool. It is significantly lighter, better balanced and much more rigid.

What type of pole is the Xtreme? There has been some confusion about this and indeed the latest Xtremes are different to the early poles (in the videos) which adds to the confusion. I am about to release another video showing the Xtreme range in its current line-up which will hopefully have greater clarity of feature presentation. All Xtremes have fully telescopic sections  - definition of telescopic is that that fully 'telescope' inside of each other during use.

The difference between these Xtreme telescoping poles and most others is that they have variable diameter section construction (Utility Patent Pending in UK, US and Europe) to facilitate exceptional rigidity and weight reduction. This means that on all of the sizes (apart from the diddy 18ft) they have three clamping positions, closed, halfway and fully open. Due to their shorter section lengths in testing and with over 18 months use of them, this has proved to be all that is needed. This applies to the 25ft, 35ft, 44ft (35ft + 44ft extension pack) and the 47ft. The 47ft then has an extra clamping point (closed, third open, two thirds open and fully open) on section 8 to provide even more adjustability.

Once you have got the 25ft or the 35ft up to 44ft with the telescopic extension packs and if using the 47ft you can then use our modular clamped extension to take the pole up to 75ft or 78ft. These slide on to the base and the first one acts as a fully telescopic section and then additional ones are modular.

Hopefully this clarifies the current pole construction.

[SherwoodCleaningSe]

Using an Xtreme 25 is literally like cleaning with a pencil!! If you have an slx, it's like going from an old F/G pole to an slx!

I've just looked at the SLX 18 and the Extreme 18, there's about 180grams of weight between the two.  180g is a little less than two dry portions of pasta; think of a small fist full of dry spaghetti.

Do you really think there's that much difference between the two poles in practical use?

And if so, is that difference worth the price cost (which I think is about double)?

I think it's 230grams difference. The thing to keep in mind though is the percentage saving on weight, the 230 grams which isn't a lot equates to a 32% reduction in pole weight, so when being used it is very noticeable and if you add into that the fact that the pole is much more rigid it's worth considering.

Obviously when you add the weight of brush and pole hose that 32% will drop a little but it just shows that numbers in grams doesn't mean every thing. a fat guy loosing a stone in weight is less than a baby loosing a pound.  The xtreme 18 is like using a toothpick, there is so little flex on it.

Simon.

[keyser soze]

Hi Guys

Thank you for all of the above interest and comments on our products.

To answer the initial question there is a very big difference in performance between a Super-Max45 and an Xtreme47. Like the rest of the medium-modulus carbon poles in the Super-Max range the Super-Max45 is a very usable pole, however when to comes to real performance then the Xtreme is like working with a different tool. It is significantly lighter, better balanced and much more rigid.

What type of pole is the Xtreme? There has been some confusion about this and indeed the latest Xtremes are different to the early poles (in the videos) which adds to the confusion. I am about to release another video showing the Xtreme range in its current line-up which will hopefully have greater clarity of feature presentation. All Xtremes have fully telescopic sections  - definition of telescopic is that that fully 'telescope' inside of each other during use.

The difference between these Xtreme telescoping poles and most others is that they have variable diameter section construction (Utility Patent Pending in UK, US and Europe) to facilitate exceptional rigidity and weight reduction. This means that on all of the sizes (apart from the diddy 18ft) they have three clamping positions, closed, halfway and fully open. Due to their shorter section lengths in testing and with over 18 months use of them, this has proved to be all that is needed. This applies to the 25ft, 35ft, 44ft (35ft + 44ft extension pack) and the 47ft. The 47ft then has an extra clamping point (closed, third open, two thirds open and fully open) on section 8 to provide even more adjustability.

Once you have got the 25ft or the 35ft up to 44ft with the telescopic extension packs and if using the 47ft you can then use our modular clamped extension to take the pole up to 75ft or 78ft. These slide on to the base and the first one acts as a fully telescopic section and then additional ones are modular.

Hopefully this clarifies the current pole construction.

hi alex are you doing any shows in the near future id like to check out your range before i decide which pole to go with 

[www.com]

mr industry and gary nee are internet trolls.please take no notice of em!!i think they just like trying to wind people up!!

So I'm a troll for answering a question that was asked (difference in two poles), then providing video evidence from none other than the person who makes it, and as I'm not upto date on the last 15 versions of the pole I get different people with different versions of the thing then say different things, and I get flamed!

I think you need to redefine your definition of a troll.

[www.com]

mr industry and gary nee are internet trolls.please take no notice of em!!i think they just like trying to wind people up!!

Gary won't be visiting us for a while, he's on ROPs, but Mr Industry does present a good argument, even if he is wrong.  

It'd be a boring forum if we all agreed on the same thing.

and it would be a boring forum especially if people like me weren't about! Just look at how many views this topic has generated for Alex concerning his pole range!! Who knows, I might be working for him!

Oh and Tosh, where am I wrong?