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Mike Halliday

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Protector adhesion to cleaning agents
« on: April 28, 2012, 07:39:53 am »
This question is particularly aimed at bonnet cleaners, how do you prepare the carpet to be protected? Do you just spray it on top of the  bonnet chemical you have used to clean the carpet or do you mist acid rinse on first?

How does protector interact with pure clean, SPM, M-power, normal M/S, Surround Encap, etc..etc. a lot of these chemicals are designed to crystallise upon drying and break away from the fibre......  will this not take the protector off as well?
Mike Halliday.  www.henryhalliday.co.uk

Paul Moss

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Re: Protector adhesion to cleaning agents
« Reply #1 on: April 28, 2012, 08:29:55 am »
Rotobrite comes with a stain shield so there must be a way for it to bond/cure

Mike Halliday

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Re: Protector adhesion to cleaning agents
« Reply #2 on: April 28, 2012, 08:38:32 am »
Paul, I was thinking of using R/B because that is formulated to leave the protector on the fibre...... but everything else is just a cleaner and I cannot find any information about how to protect a carpet once they are used.

 the common information is to acid rinse a carpet after HWE but no one mentions bonnet chemicals
Mike Halliday.  www.henryhalliday.co.uk

Shaun_Ashmore

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Re: Protector adhesion to cleaning agents
« Reply #3 on: April 28, 2012, 09:49:01 am »
I'm sure I read in clean fax a couple of years ago that protect suppliers prefered hwe for cleaning before protector is applied perhaps that's why there is so little information on the subject, I find that there isn't enough information for protectors anyway.

Shaun

Paul Moss

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Re: Protector adhesion to cleaning agents
« Reply #4 on: April 28, 2012, 12:03:27 pm »
I would not personally apply a protector to a carpet after bonnetting as you need really need full extraction in order to remove as much of the dirt and contaminents other wise the protector wont adhere to the face fibres too well, also you would not get longjevity from the guard.

Jamie Pearson

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Re: Protector adhesion to cleaning agents
« Reply #5 on: April 28, 2012, 11:02:57 pm »
Apart from Dry Fusion the only other products I know of are Non Residual Rotobrite with Stainshield and Releasit with Soileze.

Both of which are intended for periodic use primarily on commercials so would be topping up.

Jim_77

Re: Protector adhesion to cleaning agents
« Reply #6 on: April 29, 2012, 02:13:14 am »
fusion clean?

pncleaning

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Re: Protector adhesion to cleaning agents
« Reply #7 on: April 29, 2012, 03:10:13 am »
thats exactly wot I was goin to say Jim  ;D

Jamie Pearson

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Re: Protector adhesion to cleaning agents
« Reply #8 on: April 29, 2012, 07:58:37 am »
oh yeah...Craftex Catalyst too. Forgot about that stuff.

Doug Holloway

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Re: Protector adhesion to cleaning agents
« Reply #9 on: April 29, 2012, 10:09:59 am »
Hi Guys

Protectors work by the polymer bonding to the fibres and altering the surface tension so that water based products in particular do not wet out as quickly or as much.

Any chemical, be it dirt or cleaning solution must impair the protector bond.

A thorough clean with an acidic rinse rinse is the best way to prepare the fibres to bond to the protector.

Cheers

Doug