[concept]

Canvasser required, Milton Keynes.

Anyone considered, cash waiting.

Please note, I will not pay anything up front or for a list of addresses.

If you're good, you will earn good money by being honest, as I won't work with someone who employs blaggers on the door, over promising just to get their commission, then disappear off with my money.

If you are professional in how you conduct your business, please contact me:

Simon 07805 787424

[William McCafferty]

Ditto

But in Birmingham please

William 07901566541

[mikecam]

Canvasser required, Milton Keynes.

Anyone considered, cash waiting.

Please note, I will not pay anything up front or for a list of addresses.

If you're good, you will earn good money by being honest, as I won't work with someone who employs blaggers on the door, over promising just to get their commission, then disappear off with my money.

If you are professional in how you conduct your business, please contact me:

Simon 07805 787424

I'll bet your phones going like the hotline tonight eh??

[concept]

Canvasser required, Milton Keynes.

Anyone considered, cash waiting.

Please note, I will not pay anything up front or for a list of addresses.

If you're good, you will earn good money by being honest, as I won't work with someone who employs blaggers on the door, over promising just to get their commission, then disappear off with my money.

If you are professional in how you conduct your business, please contact me:

Simon 07805 787424

I'll bet your phones going like the hotline tonight eh??

Hmm, maybe I have a poor signal?! Lol

It's a serious request, we are an established, busy firm, and if there is someone who wants to earn good money, theres a good opportunity.

I will talk to anyone who is prepared to be honest, professional and up front about how they will operate, and gets results without the deal being solely in their favour.

[GDwindowcleaning]

I would but I have more work than I can cope with lol....

[Steve CM]

It is best getting your own canvasser if you can. It's a pretty difficult thing to do mind. My best work came from John the guy I had for a few years. He knew how to price well

[concept]

I would but I have more work than I can cope with lol....

Doing a good job then?

Shame there's not more like you.

[concept]

It is best getting your own canvasser if you can. It's a pretty difficult thing to do mind. My best work came from John the guy I had for a few years. He knew how to price well

Yeah, shame our friend from Olney didn't...

[GDwindowcleaning]

I would but I have more work than I can cope with lol....

Doing a good job then?

Shame there's not more like you.

I am doing a very good job and I appreciate the sentiment, thank you....

The system I have put in place really works for all involved....

[concept]

Hopefully some others will see how you operate and do something similar.

[GDwindowcleaning]

To be honest I dont think they will, I have total confidence in what I do and I am not out to rip anyone off so I can stand by my payment structure. There are cancellations and issues cos what I do isnt an exact science but everyone I have worked with understands this and trusts what I am doing....

[Steve CM]

It is best getting your own canvasser if you can. It's a pretty difficult thing to do mind. My best work came from John the guy I had for a few years. He knew how to price well

Yeah, shame our friend from Olney didn't...

It's only when you get crap like that you appreciate what can be achieved.

[mikecam]

I don't want them, i told you we don't want council houses ...............(you told us the estate the canvass)
£8 jobs are no good to us, we said we want £10 minimum................(you told us to canvass them small streets)
We don't do alley gates and entries..............................................(ok, i'll give that work to a window cleaner that does)
 We wanted regular work not one off's............................................(they didn;t like you or your attitude. Me getting the job is one thing, you keeping it is another)
.....................Must be loads more canvassing woes, anyone add to them ?!!!   

[GDwindowcleaning]

They are all easily avoided with good communication....

[Crystal-clear]

I don't want them, i told you we don't want council houses ...............(you told us the estate the canvass)
£8 jobs are no good to us, we said we want £10 minimum................(you told us to canvass them small streets)
We don't do alley gates and entries..............................................(ok, i'll give that work to a window cleaner that does)
 We wanted regular work not one off's............................................(they didn;t like you or your attitude. Me getting the job is one thing, you keeping it is another)
.....................Must be loads more canvassing woes, anyone add to them ?!!!  

hahahh i love it mate,

hard to add to this its epic!

concept no canvasser will work to the way you want him to work or you will have a very very hard time finding one !

for example if you ask for only semi or detached houses the canvasser will normally "get lost" to a lovely terraced street where he will pick you up lovely one offs and the best part of it is you wont know that they are one offs till maybe 2 months down the line

you need to train someone up and dont promise them the world offer them 2 payments 50% and 50% or just 50% per clean, or £5 to £10 on smaller orders one off or a regular just clean them all dont quiz customers cos on average 50% will stick longer term,so you will be up on some and break even on the others since you always have the other 50% of the clean it will cover your running costs and more its such a long process cos these days people aint keen for it every month and the drop rate is higher then ever so it takes ages to boost or build a round.

trick is to make sure he is earning a reasonable amount of money but not silly amounts end of the day you need to be up on every single deal a decent person could pick up 13+ leads a day maybe 9 cleans out of it your canvasser earns about £75+ for walking about not bad and the good thing is its a one off payment he dont need to worry about them sticking and you aint down too,oh and if they say pay me more ill give you a guarantee that cant be done! its not realistic!

[GDwindowcleaning]

Cyrstal, ever since I have been on here this year you have been banging on about paying less and up on every deal.... Do you really think I am going to run my own business for 75 a day? The system I have in place works both ways and so far its working.

As for employing your own, there is an old saying that if you pay peanuts that you will get monkeys. If you want to pay less you will get a self fullfilling prophecy, you pay less, you get monkeys, they dont do a good job so you say ALL canvassers are the same!

[Crystal-clear]

GD this aint a post about your business pls lets not go on about it.Now the problems mikecam mentioned are just so true as for employing your own i dont think paying aprox a self employed canvasser £70+ a day is exactly peanuts,its enof to keep people interested they can do it as a top up or while they study etc etc.

now im not saying YOU will be happy with that rate but belive it or not alot of people are and as you are paid alot more im sure you will have very high motivation
therefor yes maybe the deals will be stronger or simply you will cover more ground.
but you could cost the window cleaner alot more money if for any reason he gets a higher rate of cancelation as to someone who is paid less , you could look at it in different ways he gets less you get more but end of the day customers cancel if i knew the cancelation rate is less then 15% then and the rest stick for 5 cleans or more then paying you 200% is no problem but it just dont work out like that..


and for the record im quite impressed that you are still going fully booked at 200% on leads (we call them leads cos no one is a customer till the 3rd or 4th clean...) and no window cleaners kicked off yet at you,the only thing which is a bit naughty is some cancelations you still need to pay you 100% but im only guessing till now u have had a very low rate so windys aint bothered i do know everyone needs to make money.. and if it is low its fine that window cleaners swallow that.

ive said before you have a decent deal going so if its working for you and window cleaners that brilliant

end of the day we are all in this game to make money and most of us who hired certain canvassers in the past did not make us much money and to be frank its not even the canvassers fualt at times its the customers, thats why some of us dont want to pay that much.

and overall i think im giving concept good advise he will have a very hard time finding a company/window cleaner canvasser who is going to build up the way he wants cos look you seem to have a good thing going on but you are fully booked
that said if you really want to get decent work you need to train your own up it takes time and you might need to change a few people. but nothings easy

[GDwindowcleaning]

Just to be perfectly clear, I am not promoting my business at all as I have more than enough work. I was trying to give to the thread too....

[concept]

Crystal-clear, if I can't find anyone, it's their loss, not mine.

I am not a window lean leaner looking for an extra £200 a month, there is a large opportunity for someone to work WITH me, not just FOR me, and be very successful on a long term basis, not just one night of relieving me of some hard earned cash in exchange for a load of addresses that want one-offs, been promised conservatory cleans free of charge, etc etc.

I simply will not be ripped off by a chancer, or his band of chancers.

In all honesty, George and his model are what I need, however the other canvassers seem to bury their heads in the sand and not want to adapt their approach to their customers needs, hence we see canvassers claim the world for a short period, then disappear into the night.

[Steve Sed]

Isn't the problem of losing iCustomers inherent with canvassing?

For a start you are on the back foot as you are asking for the work. Your negotiating position on price and first clean is weak. If a wc knocked my door offering their services and said £10 monthly but £20 first clean I would say no. If however I called the wc and he offered the same terms I would be more willing to accept.

What's the Ricky Gervais sketch?

"I've got two jobs," he tells her.
"Window cleaning?" she replies. "That's not a proper job!"
"How d'you make that out?"
"Cleaning windows?” she says. “It's almost like begging!"