[richywilts]

just wondering if you can run a franchise type model to your business without officially being a franchise

when speaking to people they always ask if im a franchise and with problems ive had with staff etc its just a thought

i know if you provide a van and work etc then realistically the worker is your employee

but is there a way around it without actually being a franchise

[Richard iSparkle]

in short, yes!

all you are doing is essentially charging somebody to run your business, and then they are paying you a percentage of their income.

if you are a professionally run franchise though they have a very long, legal agreement that you sign up to which covers many many problems that can arise.

i wouldnt risk it myself

[spongebob]

 
Another idea!!!
Get out and clean some windows.

[Perfect Windows]

just wondering if you can run a franchise type model to your business without officially being a franchise

when speaking to people they always ask if im a franchise and with problems ive had with staff etc its just a thought

i know if you provide a van and work etc then realistically the worker is your employee

but is there a way around it without actually being a franchise

You can run a business however you want.

Franchising is more than just having people working for you but self-employed (which is the subtext I read in your question).  If that's what you're looking to do then you're entering an area that I don't understand; the law's very complex.  One vitally important factor in a franchise agreement is the separation of their business from yours.  I suspect you don't want to do that from what you say.

Trying to "find a way around" being an employer is not a reason to consider franchising, so I'd strongly advise you to forget the idea.

Vin

[richard jagger]

Its call a partnership but then you need to give them advice and mentoring as well as a fullproof  opperating system.

[richywilts]

its not my new idea before anyone asks just wondering if its possible as i did look into franchising a while ago but they wouldnt allow me to franchise my name as its to descriptive of window cleaning, so just thinkin for future reference as a friend was wanting to use my name and i was thinking of maybe allowing my employee to trade under the name so hes responsible for his own work etc

[GDwindowcleaning]

Richy just out of interest who told you that you couldnt franchise your business name?

[Window Washers]

its not my new idea before anyone asks just wondering if its possible as i did look into franchising a while ago but they wouldnt allow me to franchise my name as its to descriptive of window cleaning, so just thinkin for future reference as a friend was wanting to use my name and i was thinking of maybe allowing my employee to trade under the name so hes responsible for his own work etc

are you not talking about registering a trade mark ?

[Ian101]

Hi Richy I think I know where your coming from a friend of mine with a massive window cleaning business has just in effect laid his entire workforce off they're now all self employed and pay my mate a monthly fee ... No sick pay no holiday pay etc etc to worry about.

[Ian Lancaster]

just wondering if you can run a franchise type model to your business without officially being a franchise

when speaking to people they always ask if im a franchise and with problems ive had with staff etc its just a thought

i know if you provide a van and work etc then realistically the worker is your employee

but is there a way around it without actually being a franchise

Why wouldn't you want to become a franchise?  Solve all your problems and ensure everythings on a proper legal base.

[bobplum]

Hi Richy I think I know where your coming from a friend of mine with a massive window cleaning business has just in effect laid his entire workforce off they're now all self employed and pay my mate a monthly fee ... No sick pay no holiday pay etc etc to worry about.

you have a FRIEND

[richywilts]

we rang a few of these franchise setup companies and they looked into it for us and said the name coz it contains window clean would be too descriptive i.e i could franchise under name window gleam direct but not window clean direct because it would restrict other companies from setting up as window cleaning franchises.

i get asked that many times if my companies is a franchise it gets me thinking if this would be a better route at times as i could work up to vat nearly then take my percentages from others and save hassle of employing and paying holidays etc,ive got a fair share of experience and problems i can pass on to others as i think ive been there done it and got the tshirt with pretty much everything that could be thrown at me however i do lack the business skills at minute to be main franchisor just thinking in few years time

[Ian101]

Hi Richy I think I know where your coming from a friend of mine with a massive window cleaning business has just in effect laid his entire workforce off they're now all self employed and pay my mate a monthly fee ... No sick pay no holiday pay etc etc to worry about.

you have a FRIEND

apart from you no 

oh my wife ... shes my best friend 

[richywilts]

just wondering if you can run a franchise type model to your business without officially being a franchise

when speaking to people they always ask if im a franchise and with problems ive had with staff etc its just a thought

i know if you provide a van and work etc then realistically the worker is your employee

but is there a way around it without actually being a franchise

Why wouldn't you want to become a franchise?  Solve all your problems and ensure everythings on a proper legal base.

i would prefer to become a franchise ian but cant under my name so the appeal of using my name etc and logos and literature would all need to be changed

[Ian Lancaster]

just wondering if you can run a franchise type model to your business without officially being a franchise

when speaking to people they always ask if im a franchise and with problems ive had with staff etc its just a thought

i know if you provide a van and work etc then realistically the worker is your employee

but is there a way around it without actually being a franchise

Why wouldn't you want to become a franchise?  Solve all your problems and ensure everythings on a proper legal base.

i would prefer to become a franchise ian but cant under my name so the appeal of using my name etc and logos and literature would all need to be changed

I don't understand that, Richy.  Your trading name is Window Clean Direct, isn't it?  So as a franchisor you would still be Window Clean Direct and your franchisees would be (Tommy Atkinson) trading as Window Clean Direct.  Is someone else already registered under the same name as you?  If so you ought to be changing your name anyway, if not there's nothing stopping you.

[richywilts]

no ian we were just told it was too descriptive of the service im offering maybe in was wrong advice, il look into it furthur it was just general enquiries at the time so didnt really take it any furthur but its a route id be interested in taking

[andyM]

If WINDOW CLEAN DIRECT is "too descriptive" wouldn't JIMS MOWING be classed as "too descriptive" then?

[richywilts]

good point its not really saying gardening tho is it or lawn treatment

[Dave Willis]

Just buy Ians package for £1500 and away you go!

[Ian Lancaster]

no ian we were just told it was too descriptive of the service im offering maybe in was wrong advice, il look into it furthur it was just general enquiries at the time so didnt really take it any furthur but its a route id be interested in taking

No such thing!!  A business name OUGHT to be descriptive.  Whoever advised you, I hope you didn't pay him!!