[[GQC] Tim]

After about 4 years of using wfp I thought I'd give fan jets a try, I've had them in my little box for over a year now.
After doing a few windows, I decided I'd just water the plants with them. They are utterly hopeless. Let me explain.

My main issue is that there is almost no flow whatsoever. There is lots of noise (talk about jet wash) but very little water actually coming down the glass. So it takes ages to rinse/clean a window. If you are in the business of money making, and want to be finished with work before the sun goes down, avoid fan jets. It's just so slow. It's absolutely useless compared to pencil jets. It's even worse if you lift the brush off.

If you do dare to lift the brush even a centimeter everything gets covered in droplets. Which turn into big drops which hang off the top of the frame etc etc. You can't selectively rinse a part of the frame or glass just to get some bits down, or with precision blast some stuff out of a crevice, like you do with pencil jets.

Maybe if you use a super slow flow rate with pencil jets there is some comparison, but if you are serious about increasing speed, your flow rate is way up there anyway.

I think you get the point.


Just in case anyone is interested I used the Lurmark ones, 40 degree.

[SunShineCleaning]

Fan jets are the Devil's work.

[Spruce]

Hi Tim,

I found the same thing, but the guys who rinse on the glass are the ones who praise them. Turning the flow rate up makes things worse. I don't rinse on the glass and I prefer pencils every time.

Spruce

[[GQC] Tim]

Hi Tim,

I found the same thing, but the guys who rinse on the glass are the ones who praise them. Turning the flow rate up makes things worse. I don't rinse on the glass and I prefer pencils every time.
Spruce

Interesting to read your comments.

Personally I always rinse on the glass, except on some downstairs windows where it's faster to rinse off.

I've tried them with lower flow rate as well, albeit not on the actual brush, but seems similar to how much water (or lack thereof) comes down the glass.

Ps. I did rip a whole load of bristle tufts out as well, no interruption of spray, so can't be that.

[stuart mc]

send them to me

[Smudger]

what brush were you using.

i'd never ever use pencils - far to slow and no water coverage compared to fans - and i dont get anything other than the window on or off the glass

Darran

[Frankybadboy]

are you joking

[SherwoodCleaningSe]

I have to agree with you Tim, you hear people raving about them but as you say they give a very poor flow rate to rince with, although they may give good coverage the lack of flow down the glass slows you down.

Simon.

[Alex Gardiner]

Personally I completely agree with your findings. My own preference is to use pencil jets as they give a good quantity of water which allows you to achieve a 'curtain of water' this is what I use to rinse the glass whether on or off the glass.

However a lot of window cleaners really like Fanjets, so it just shows that it takes all sorts. 

[Xtremely Clean]

I use one fan jet, is messy but once you get used to it find it much quicker than pencils and two fans, been using it this way last three years

[bobplum]

surely the whole idea is to cover everything in water,frames,glass,sill etc give a massive rinse-job done

[Dave Willis]

good for gutter cleans though.
I used them for a while - very fast, you can clean two windows at the same time with the amount of overspray they give  
Ok if the brush has enough bristles to trap the spray.

[Avo]

I must say the new gardiner White fans have a very high flow rate on sheeting down the glass giving you very fast rinsing it must be down to the oval port hole.. I love fans and only use fans now but will only use the whites... All the other ones with a square port spray like a mist taking longer

[dazmond]

ive never tried them but i know one thing.in warm weather i rinse more with my pencil jets to get the crud off the glass esp round the bottom of windows.also i sometimes avoid the top frame if its old wood/oxidised etc and when i cant shut a window with my brush.this would be very difficult to do with fan jets wouldnt it?

[Alex Gardiner]

I must say the new gardiner White fans have a very high flow rate on sheeting down the glass giving you very fast rinsing it must be down to the oval port hole.. I love fans and only use fans now but will only use the whites... All the other ones with a square port spray like a mist taking longer

The white fans are more like a hybrid between a fine fanjet and a pencil jet. They have proved to be far more popular than any previous examples we have sold. Personally I still prefer pencils though!

[Smudger]

are you joking

who ? me ?

[CLEANCARE WC]

people say fan jets save water but i have found i have to have the pump turned up more to get a decent arc out of them, so imo they dont save water at all. i just use them for fascias, cladding, conservatory roofs etc.

[[GQC] Tim]

I must say the new gardiner White fans have a very high flow rate on sheeting down the glass giving you very fast rinsing it must be down to the oval port hole.. I love fans and only use fans now but will only use the whites... All the other ones with a square port spray like a mist taking longer

The white fans are more like a hybrid between a fine fanjet and a pencil jet. They have proved to be far more popular than any previous examples we have sold. Personally I still prefer pencils though!

Interesting, I was going to mention that in this topic as the (fan jet) video shows a completely different story to regular fan jets. Should have picked them up when I was at the office.

Maybe I would feel different about them.

[G Griffin]

After about 4 years of using wfp I thought I'd give fan jets a try, I've had them in my little box for over a year now.
After doing a few windows, I decided I'd just water the plants with them. They are utterly hopeless. Let me explain.

My main issue is that there is almost no flow whatsoever. There is lots of noise (talk about jet wash) but very little water actually coming down the glass. So it takes ages to rinse/clean a window. If you are in the business of money making, and want to be finished with work before the sun goes down, avoid fan jets. It's just so slow. It's absolutely useless compared to pencil jets. It's even worse if you lift the brush off.

If you do dare to lift the brush even a centimeter everything gets covered in droplets. Which turn into big drops which hang off the top of the frame etc etc. You can't selectively rinse a part of the frame or glass just to get some bits down, or with precision blast some stuff out of a crevice, like you do with pencil jets.

Maybe if you use a super slow flow rate with pencil jets there is some comparison, but if you are serious about increasing speed, your flow rate is way up there anyway.

I think you get the point.


Just in case anyone is interested I used the Lurmark ones, 40 degree.

You're not a fan, then?

[H S and Son]

i'd never ever use pencils - far to slow and no water coverage compared to fans - and i dont get anything other than the window on or off the glass

What he said.