[Silver Surfer]

Bio diesel is the way forward, have been doing loads of research. Can buy it for less than a quid a litre ready made or set your own making facility up. Its another thing to mess around with but the savings are significant....

The big decision is whether its worth the messing around....

Its not worth it if it means recyling used oil because the supply is limited and loads of people jumping on the band wagon.

just pay for fuel, we are minnows in this situation. How would you feel if you were trying to run a fleet of artics at 7mpg? Doing runs of hundreds of miles a day?

The poles seem to do ok!!!

[GDwindowcleaning]

Bio diesel is the way forward, have been doing loads of research. Can buy it for less than a quid a litre ready made or set your own making facility up. Its another thing to mess around with but the savings are significant....

The big decision is whether its worth the messing around....

Its not worth it if it means recyling used oil because the supply is limited and loads of people jumping on the band wagon.

just pay for fuel, we are minnows in this situation. How would you feel if you were trying to run a fleet of artics at 7mpg? Doing runs of hundreds of miles a day?

There is a fella on ebay thats sells it at less than a quid a litre and all thats needed is to change the inline fuel filter on most vans. It runs cleaner and has better emmisions...

You can make it for less by buying the oil wholesale, not used...

[rg1]

Bio diesel is the way forward, have been doing loads of research. Can buy it for less than a quid a litre ready made or set your own making facility up. Its another thing to mess around with but the savings are significant....

The big decision is whether its worth the messing around....

Its not worth it if it means recyling used oil because the supply is limited and loads of people jumping on the band wagon.

just pay for fuel, we are minnows in this situation. How would you feel if you were trying to run a fleet of artics at 7mpg? Doing runs of hundreds of miles a day?

There is a fella on ebay thats sells it at less than a quid a litre and all thats needed is to change the inline fuel filter on most vans. It runs cleaner and has better emmisions...

You can make it for less by buying the oil wholesale, not used...

I think you also need to change any rubber seals or pipes as well

[bobby p]

hoss n cart

[Londoner]

Bio diesel is the way forward, have been doing loads of research. Can buy it for less than a quid a litre ready made or set your own making facility up. Its another thing to mess around with but the savings are significant....

The big decision is whether its worth the messing around....

Its not worth it if it means recyling used oil because the supply is limited and loads of people jumping on the band wagon.

just pay for fuel, we are minnows in this situation. How would you feel if you were trying to run a fleet of artics at 7mpg? Doing runs of hundreds of miles a day?

The poles seem to do ok!!!

More and more foreign trucks on out roads but with long range tanks filled up before they got on the ferry. The Polish drivers live in their trucks for a month at a time.

[Richy essex]

My old Bangor has a flux capacitor so I'm ok

[Londoner]

I have just had a look on George. Last year my van fuel was 3.92% of turnover. I don't think I will be worrying too much about that.

[dazmond]

thats why i think its great if you can get some localish work and concentrate on getting as much work in that one area as possible.

i never put more than £20 a week in my van.most work within 6 miles.a lot very compact,hardly any driving about.the furthest i travel is 10 miles.

it must be awful for people with regular jobs who  get stuck on motorways every morning and stick £60-£80 worth of fuel in their cars just to get to work every week.

ill be sticking with my trusty diesel van for the time being!!

[scud]

Bio diesel is the way forward, have been doing loads of research. Can buy it for less than a quid a litre ready made or set your own making facility up. Its another thing to mess around with but the savings are significant....

The big decision is whether its worth the messing around....

Its not worth it if it means recyling used oil because the supply is limited and loads of people jumping on the band wagon.

just pay for fuel, we are minnows in this situation. How would you feel if you were trying to run a fleet of artics at 7mpg? Doing runs of hundreds of miles a day?

There is a fella on ebay thats sells it at less than a quid a litre and all thats needed is to change the inline fuel filter on most vans. It runs cleaner and has better emmisions...

You can make it for less by buying the oil wholesale, not used...

 Would you really put fuel in your van that you have bought from some bloke on ebay?

  I am sure the savings made would very quickly be overtaken by the massive repair cost that will be inevitable.

[rosskesava]

I run my van on bio deisel. I pay £1.18 a litre. Every so often I fill the van up and buy an extra 200ltrs, in 25ltr containers, and stick it in a mates garage as it not a fire hazard.

Bio deisel is also taxed just like oil based fuels.

You cannot use untreaded cooking oil as it'll coke up an engine like a chip pan. The problem isn't when the engine's hot, it's when it's cold.

Most forecourt diesel pumps contain upto 5% bio deisel anyway. It's a way for fuel companies to increase their profits without anyone knowing.

With regards the fuel filter, bio deisel cleans all the muck out the pipe lines so at some point, the filter will become clogged up and starve the engine of fuel. A replacement filter for my transit cost £20 and took 20 minutes to change.

As for the rubber seals, you have to check with the van's maker to make sure it's ok for bio deisel.

[mlscontractcleaner]

I personally think that whatever fuel is in fashion in years to come will be taxed by the government of the day just like petrol and diesel are today.

Diesel used to be the cheap alternative to petrol but now it's more expensive than petrol.

The government will soon realise that everyone's switching to bio fuel or electric and whack the tax up on those.

Either way we'll be paying and paying and paying, just like we always have

[bobplum]

the only problem for me is the punctures i get on my bicycle

[Jackal]

I personally think that whatever fuel is in fashion in years to come will be taxed by the government of the day just like petrol and diesel are today.

Diesel used to be the cheap alternative to petrol but now it's more expensive than petrol.

The government will soon realise that everyone's switching to bio fuel or electric and whack the tax up on those.

Either way we'll be paying and paying and paying, just like we always have

thats why im not interested in lpg either used to be 40 odd pence couple year back now look at it 

[Scrimble]

Its one of the guys i canvass for that sings about how good lpg is, im not sure how it all works out but he says he gets 250-300 miles with a tank of lpg, and i believe he said its costs £32 to fill up

i used to have a combo dual fuel which ran on lpg and compared to diesel the savings were small, the engine was too small and so was the tank, ended up not being worth it, lpg is good with the right vehicle but for wfp the engines dont have enough torque to pull the weight, lpg here is 67p litre still but i wouldnt go back

[paul middleton]

I personally think that whatever fuel is in fashion in years to come will be taxed by the government of the day just like petrol and diesel are today.

Diesel used to be the cheap alternative to petrol but now it's more expensive than petrol.

The government will soon realise that everyone's switching to bio fuel or electric and whack the tax up on those.

Either way we'll be paying and paying and paying, just like we always have

I agree if everyone switch from petrol/diesel to electric overnight the government would be screwed.

[Erithwc]

Hi

Spoke to my brother today he told me that he has spoken to a few couriers that had eletric van and they all said they are no good as soon as you put any weight in the van the mileage range reduces by alot and they have no guts 

Regards Paul

[Crystal-clear]

im just gona stick to diesel if something is cheaper its normally for a reason

i have done bio before van stank of poop and to be honest i think it ran out faster i was paying alot less but then my filters got cloged up faster didnt notice and it messed up parts around engine.

[Smudgeoff Cleaning Services]

Bring on the chip fat.......

[VSP Home Care]

I'll give you my views on LPG.  I've had a Jeep Cherokee and a Grand Jeep Cherokee, both absolute monsters when it comes to weight, I've pulled well over a tonne on trailers using them on LPG and there coped very well.   Running LPG on my 3.0 Jag I can tell you that LPG gives almost the same MPG just costs less, it's slightly less quick under acceleration but so little you'd hardly tell.

I'm still looking for a van and I'm paying great attention to the LPG one's out there, if you're going to be carrying a lot of weight then a 13-1400 small van wont be that good full stop.

You'll get more MPG from Diesel for sure, but then do the maths with the prices at the pump.  I will be looking at converted vans rather than looking to convert one myself, the cost of conversion compared to your fuel savings is something you can work out if you have a good idea of your annual costs.

Diesel vans are always going to have more torque when it comes to pulling weight though.  But having had experience of LPG in car's and Jeeps I don't see it as a problem at all.

Look to Europe and see how many drivers use LPG over there, loads!  Don't ever crash into a Spanish cab driver as they normally carry a calor gas bottle in the boot 

Whatever you chose it's certain that the TAX will increase with popularity though, Diesel was originally supposed to be cheaper until people went over to it, then the TAX man wanted his slice.  Originally only farmers used it, and grew their own fuel during the war!!

I would still look into electric Paul, get one on test and fill the bugger up with all your gear, see how it copes.  Then look into pricing a PV system for your home.  I'll be they make you pay fuel duty on the electric for the van though.  Utter numptys they are lol