[Richard iSparkle]

all the above is done with a sense of real urgency and both workers moving fast all the time

hi m8
aint here to knock you by the way.
so your other operative doesnt clean at all ?

no the van driver doesn;t clean.  it is the senior position so he will have been the pole operator previously.

we find that we get thru the same amount of work with only one pole operator, and it is a lot easier doing it like this.

like i said on a previous thread, the reason that we do it this way is because we have found it works best.  working like this we
clean 50 or the equivalent houses per day working from 8am and walking out the office after drop off at 4.

[KS Cleaning]

all the above is done with a sense of real urgency and both workers moving fast all the time

hi m8
aint here to knock you by the way.
so your other operative doesnt clean at all ?

no the van driver doesn;t clean.  it is the senior position so he will have been the pole operator previously.

we find that we get thru the same amount of work with only one pole operator, and it is a lot easier doing it like this.

like i said on a previous thread, the reason that we do it this way is because we have found it works best.  working like this we
clean 50 or the equivalent houses per day working from 8am and walking out the office after drop off at 4.

I believe this is the way clear view plus(concept 2o)operate.

[Richard iSparkle]

all the above is done with a sense of real urgency and both workers moving fast all the time

hi m8
aint here to knock you by the way.
so your other operative doesnt clean at all ?

no the van driver doesn;t clean.  it is the senior position so he will have been the pole operator previously.

we find that we get thru the same amount of work with only one pole operator, and it is a lot easier doing it like this.

like i said on a previous thread, the reason that we do it this way is because we have found it works best.  working like this we
clean 50 or the equivalent houses per day working from 8am and walking out the office after drop off at 4.

I believe this is the way clear view plus(concept 2o)operate.

it is how they operate.  i;m one of their franchisees 

[Tom White]

all the above is done with a sense of real urgency and both workers moving fast all the time

hi m8
aint here to knock you by the way.
so your other operative doesnt clean at all ?

no the van driver doesn;t clean.  it is the senior position so he will have been the pole operator previously.

we find that we get thru the same amount of work with only one pole operator, and it is a lot easier doing it like this.

like i said on a previous thread, the reason that we do it this way is because we have found it works best.  working like this we
clean 50 or the equivalent houses per day working from 8am and walking out the office after drop off at 4.

I believe this is the way clear view plus(concept 2o)operate.

it is how they operate.  i;m one of their franchisees 

Two people working from one van should split up; one hose and pole each; and work on different properties.

Unless your round is really undeveloped and spread out all over the place; then some time should be taken to canvass and try and get
some more compact work.  Also try targeting areas where there aren't gates to negotiate.

I work with Wor Lass and we never operate like the system I've just read.  Two people should both be working; never should one just be
stood around.  It takes some team work and practise, but we certainly wouldn't work like this.

[stuart mc]

to be fair I can see that working if it is one house move, one house move etc but it would need to be very well priced

[richywilts]

i dont get it surely it would be much quicker having someone smashing the back of a house with a big conservatory and makin way round to the side than have someone to manouvere a hose around for the junior operator

im not having a go richard just differing opinions

[Richard iSparkle]

i dont get it surely it would be much quicker having someone smashing the back of a house with a big conservatory and makin way round to the side than have someone to manouvere a hose around for the junior operator

im not having a go richard just differing opinions

its all down to the speed the pole operator is working at.  if the pole operator is moving fast, from window to window, it makes a big difference
having a helper.

if its a first clean, then they dont make a difference at all, so we dont put 2 guys on for these.

and tosh, i agree with you when you say one worker should never be stood around.  the van driver is working just as quickly to keep the pole
operator working so fast.

the only reason we do it like this is because it is the best, and by that i mean fastest and easiest way we've found.

not many hit the number of houses that we do in a day.  there's others on here who do, but not many of them.

[richywilts]

il have to come n watch tmoz i need convincing haha text me ya number richard to 07894821844

[KS Cleaning]

all the above is done with a sense of real urgency and both workers moving fast all the time

hi m8
aint here to knock you by the way.
so your other operative doesnt clean at all ?

no the van driver doesn;t clean.  it is the senior position so he will have been the pole operator previously.

we find that we get thru the same amount of work with only one pole operator, and it is a lot easier doing it like this.

like i said on a previous thread, the reason that we do it this way is because we have found it works best.  working like this we
clean 50 or the equivalent houses per day working from 8am and walking out the office after drop off at 4.

I believe this is the way clear view plus(concept 2o)operate.

it is how they operate.  i;m one of their franchisees 

Yes I know,I came close to buying an ex demo system off Julie,but in the end decided against it.

[Tom White]

i dont get it surely it would be much quicker having someone smashing the back of a house with a big conservatory and makin way round to the side than have someone to manouvere a hose around for the junior operator

im not having a go richard just differing opinions

its all down to the speed the pole operator is working at.  if the pole operator is moving fast, from window to window, it makes a big difference
having a helper.

if its a first clean, then they dont make a difference at all, so we dont put 2 guys on for these.

and tosh, i agree with you when you say one worker should never be stood around.  the van driver is working just as quickly to keep the pole
operator working so fast.

the only reason we do it like this is because it is the best, and by that i mean fastest and easiest way we've found.

not many hit the number of houses that we do in a day.  there's others on here who do, but not many of them.

I have two days of 'drive betweens' and I just save them for when Wor Lass has a day off and I do these myself.  I think two people is an overkill for
small drive between jobs.  I'll canvass around mine in the Spring.

But for compact work, we always split up.  I can think of numerous properties - domestic - where I've got a lot of glass to do and my hose doesn't really
need moving.  Or I also have a trick of tying the van hose around my body like a ammunition bandoleer (think Mexican gun slinger) and the hose goes where
I walk; this works really well where I've a lot of glass and not many obstacles for the hose to get wrapped up around.

[stuart mc]

are you for real richard 50 houses a day between two men is and must be easily achievable, I would expect two trad guys to do that easily in a day working 8 am till 4, never mind wfp

I must add this is based on the type of house on the posters link

[Richard iSparkle]

are you for real richard 50 houses a day between two men is and must be easily achievable, I would expect two trad guys to do that easily in a day working 8 am till 4, never mind wfp

I must add this is based on the type of house on the posters link

hey stuart,

i know it's easily achievable day in day out, so yes i agree with you.

however, the reason for that comment that i made, was that i am under the impression that most on here are nowhere near that figure.
i know some are, but i think that most are well below it.

[GDwindowcleaning]

Come on richard tell the truth, you only have one guy working for you and he works alone. You also only have 400 customers so you dont actually do 50 in a day all month....

I agree that 50 in a day should be possible with 2 men....

[stuart mc]

are you for real richard 50 houses a day between two men is and must be easily achievable, I would expect two trad guys to do that easily in a day working 8 am till 4, never mind wfp

I must add this is based on the type of house on the posters link

hey stuart,

i know it's easily achievable day in day out, so yes i agree with you.

however, the reason for that comment that i made, was that i am under the impression that most on here are nowhere near that figure.
i know some are, but i think that most are well below it.

fair enough, I get that feeling as well, a lot of days I don't do that amount, but I don't do property's like that day in day out, some are more awkward etc and I do commercial mornings and don't get started on domestic till a bit later

I often scratch my head when I see a pic or link and how much is being charged and how much time is being took to do the job, I have to be that bit quicker because the prices are that wee bit cheaper up here, and I am expensive on the whole

[Richard iSparkle]

Come on richard tell the truth, you only have one guy working for you and he works alone. You also only have 400 customers so you dont actually do 50 in a day all month....

I agree that 50 in a day should be possible with 2 men....

Re: To justify a 2nd van...
« Reply #113 on: February 17, 2012, 11:16:48 am »   

Thats my last word on the matter because I am not getting into a petty arguement.

Hello again GD canvasser???

Despite repeatedly stating that you're not going to get involved in a 'petty argument' you just cant help having digs can you.

You're constant niggling is really childish

[H S and Son]

Sounds like a lot of justification going on here.


You dont need two people to walk fast or jump out.

driver jumps in van, sets sat nav Do they need to waste time setting a sat nav? I know where my next job is and how to get to it with my eyes closed.

[GDwindowcleaning]

Hi Richard,

This is my first comment since our last discussion, hardly constant is it?

Coming on here saying you do this that and the other is more childish....

If you had just answered the question instead of turning it into a personal dig then I would have had no need to comment again...

[Richard iSparkle]

Coming on here saying you do this that and the other is more childish....

Have you read the title of the thread before you commented?  FAO Richard Speech??

Ian is a WC working in the same area who's seem our guys work and is interested in what we do.

[Sean Dyer]

i dont get it surely it would be much quicker having someone smashing the back of a house with a big conservatory and makin way round to the side than have someone to manouvere a hose around for the junior operator

im not having a go richard just differing opinions

its all down to the speed the pole operator is working at.  if the pole operator is moving fast, from window to window, it makes a big difference
having a helper.

if its a first clean, then they dont make a difference at all, so we dont put 2 guys on for these.

and tosh, i agree with you when you say one worker should never be stood around.  the van driver is working just as quickly to keep the pole
operator working so fast.

the only reason we do it like this is because it is the best, and by that i mean fastest and easiest way we've found.

not many hit the number of houses that we do in a day.  there's others on here who do, but not many of them.

im sure there are plenty of 2man van operations that are organised enough to be just as quick or quicker. I agree with the comments that suggest 2 guys should be working not one pulling hose and posting tickets. For example. One man goes to do back opens gate if necessary and then front guy works towards him. The gate is open and windows getting cleaned twice as fast ? Id love to see you guys working Richard. Genuinely. I dont dis believe you . Just need to see it to get it i suppose.

[GDwindowcleaning]

Richard if you come on here with such inflammatory comments you are going to get attention.  And when someone points out a flaw in what you say you start to get personal....

Personally I dont have a problem with you as I dont know you but you come on saying you do this and you do that.

I dont disbelieve you that its possible and would love to see it in action....