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Ian101

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FAO Richard Speech ... Time and motion example
« on: February 27, 2012, 06:28:51 pm »
http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=Briar+Drive,+Buckley&hl=en&ll=53.163858,-3.062997&spn=0.000026,0.020921&sll=53.800651,-4.064941&sspn=12.896204,42.84668&oq=briar+drive+bu&hnear=Briar+Dr,+Buckley,+Flintshire+CH7+2,+United+Kingdom&t=m&z=16&layer=c&cbll=53.16374,-3.071127&panoid=YZWJaOFlWGRW3qt9XOp5vQ&cbp=12,90,,0,0

Hi Richard ... noticed on another post that your work method is under scrutiny again.

Thought it may be interesting to see what you do different to me and prob most on here  :)

Now then I cleaned a house today identical to the one in the googlemap link above. ... (house on right)

No access issues.

My way of working

Out of van
Open rear doors
Remove hose reel
Connect pole hose to hosereel
Pull hose out
Do Rears
Do Sides (only 1 side as semi)
Do Fronts
Pack pole away
Reel hose back in
Hose reel in back of van
Write Envelope
Put through letterbox
Drive off

3 windows on front
1 front door
2 side windows
4 rear windows
1 rear door

Start to finish 13.5 minutes .... which I rekon is about the average ??

How long would it have taken you and can you tell the forum what you do differently ?

Perfect Windows

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Re: FAO Richard Speech ... Time and motion example
« Reply #1 on: February 27, 2012, 06:36:35 pm »
Stuff it, made a serious post, but someone (predictably) has to take the p i s s , so I've deleted it.

matthewprice

  • Posts: 764
Re: FAO Richard Speech ... Time and motion example
« Reply #2 on: February 27, 2012, 06:38:49 pm »
get an electric reel saves 30 sec per house i am told ;D

Carl@Cwc

  • Posts: 1076
Re: FAO Richard Speech ... Time and motion example
« Reply #3 on: February 27, 2012, 06:44:33 pm »
how much is that 3 bedder up there ian ?
you can mail me if you prefer

alanwilson

  • Posts: 1885
Re: FAO Richard Speech ... Time and motion example
« Reply #4 on: February 27, 2012, 06:44:55 pm »
Yeah it's the little things that add up, connecting pole to hose, why not leave it connected?

Also try your flow rate at max, much much quicker.

We do a run of semis nearly identical and we average 7 per hour per man.
I've never been to bed with an ugly bird but I've woken up with loads!

Ian101

  • Posts: 7889
Re: FAO Richard Speech ... Time and motion example
« Reply #5 on: February 27, 2012, 06:47:19 pm »
how much is that 3 bedder up there ian ?
you can mail me if you prefer

£10 for like 1 in link

Ian101

  • Posts: 7889
Re: FAO Richard Speech ... Time and motion example
« Reply #6 on: February 27, 2012, 06:48:47 pm »
Stuff it, made a serious post, but someone (predictably) has to take the p i s s , so I've deleted it.

I read it and took onboard what you were saying ... thanks !  ;)

alanwilson

  • Posts: 1885
Re: FAO Richard Speech ... Time and motion example
« Reply #7 on: February 27, 2012, 06:49:05 pm »
£8 for us.

Only have about 150 of this size
I've never been to bed with an ugly bird but I've woken up with loads!

Carl@Cwc

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Re: FAO Richard Speech ... Time and motion example
« Reply #8 on: February 27, 2012, 06:50:01 pm »
nice price for a 3 bedder. :o

thats 90p per item.
wish i could get them prices.

Ian101

  • Posts: 7889
Re: FAO Richard Speech ... Time and motion example
« Reply #9 on: February 27, 2012, 06:50:17 pm »
Yeah it's the little things that add up, connecting pole to hose, why not leave it connected?

Also try your flow rate at max, much much quicker.

We do a run of semis nearly identical and we average 7 per hour per man.

no room on reel at too full of microbore but can soon loose some .. another good point

Carl@Cwc

  • Posts: 1076
Re: FAO Richard Speech ... Time and motion example
« Reply #10 on: February 27, 2012, 06:51:25 pm »
£8 for us.

Only have about 150 of this size

£8 for us too.

i leave pole attached and leave hosereel in back door.

Ian101

  • Posts: 7889
Re: FAO Richard Speech ... Time and motion example
« Reply #11 on: February 27, 2012, 06:51:40 pm »
£8 for us.

Only have about 150 of this size

some lads do em for £6 to £8 but not me

Re: FAO Richard Speech ... Time and motion example
« Reply #12 on: February 27, 2012, 07:42:21 pm »
http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=Briar+Drive,+Buckley&hl=en&ll=53.163858,-3.062997&spn=0.000026,0.020921&sll=53.800651,-4.064941&sspn=12.896204,42.84668&oq=briar+drive+bu&hnear=Briar+Dr,+Buckley,+Flintshire+CH7+2,+United+Kingdom&t=m&z=16&layer=c&cbll=53.16374,-3.071127&panoid=YZWJaOFlWGRW3qt9XOp5vQ&cbp=12,90,,0,0

Hi Richard ... noticed on another post that your work method is under scrutiny again.

Thought it may be interesting to see what you do different to me and prob most on here  :)

Now then I cleaned a house today identical to the one in the googlemap link above. ... (house on right)

No access issues.

My way of working

Out of van
Open rear doors
Remove hose reel
Connect pole hose to hosereel
Pull hose out
Do Rears
Do Sides (only 1 side as semi)
Do Fronts
Pack pole away
Reel hose back in
Hose reel in back of van
Write Envelope
Put through letterbox

Drive off

3 windows on front
1 front door
2 side windows
4 rear windows
1 rear door

Start to finish 13.5 minutes .... which I rekon is about the average ??

How long would it have taken you and can you tell the forum what you do differently ?

I pre write the bills and post as I'm cleaning rather than go back.

AuRavelling79

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Re: FAO Richard Speech ... Time and motion example
« Reply #13 on: February 27, 2012, 07:44:20 pm »


My way of working

Out of van
Open rear doors (or side door if better) and put cone out
Hose reel screwed down
Pole hose stays connected to hosereel Pull hose out
Tap door on way to do rearsDo Rears
Do Sides (only 1 side as semi)
(If not in write out ticket at this point and post)
Do Fronts
Pack pole away
Reel hose back in
Put cone back in
Update worksheet

Drive off

3 windows on front
1 front door
2 side windows
4 rear windows
1 rear door

Start to finish 13.5 minutes .... which I rekon is about the average ??

How long would it have taken you and can you tell the forum what you do differently ?
It's a game of three halves!

Richard iSparkle

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Re: FAO Richard Speech ... Time and motion example
« Reply #14 on: February 27, 2012, 07:48:47 pm »
http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=Briar+Drive,+Buckley&hl=en&ll=53.163858,-3.062997&spn=0.000026,0.020921&sll=53.800651,-4.064941&sspn=12.896204,42.84668&oq=briar+drive+bu&hnear=Briar+Dr,+Buckley,+Flintshire+CH7+2,+United+Kingdom&t=m&z=16&layer=c&cbll=53.16374,-3.071127&panoid=YZWJaOFlWGRW3qt9XOp5vQ&cbp=12,90,,0,0

Hi Richard ... noticed on another post that your work method is under scrutiny again.

Thought it may be interesting to see what you do different to me and prob most on here  :)

Now then I cleaned a house today identical to the one in the googlemap link above. ... (house on right)

No access issues.

My way of working

Out of van
Open rear doors
Remove hose reel
Connect pole hose to hosereel
Pull hose out
Do Rears
Do Sides (only 1 side as semi)
Do Fronts
Pack pole away
Reel hose back in
Hose reel in back of van
Write Envelope
Put through letterbox
Drive off

3 windows on front
1 front door
2 side windows
4 rear windows
1 rear door

Start to finish 13.5 minutes .... which I rekon is about the average ??

How long would it have taken you and can you tell the forum what you do differently ?
[/quote

hey ian!

Not a lot different really.  Main thing is that the hose reel is attached to the van..


van stops, driver jumps out opens doors, grabs hose and unwinds straight to back gate.  if open he leads hose all way round to back and waits for WC.  
if locked he leads hose to start point at front of house and waits for WC.

WC gets out van, puts on belt, grabs pole and walks fast to wheredriver is waiting.  driver plugs in hose.  WC starts to clean.

if gate locked driver then rings bell top access back,  if no answer starts to see if can unlock gate.

once gate open driver sets hose out around the house and then fills in card for client and posts.

once card posted driver back to WC and helps him move around the house so hose not caught.

WC finishes cleaning, driver helps him get back to van, WC reals in hose whilst driver jumps in van, sets sat nav, and when ready leaves.

if cleaning a neighbour driver will lay out hose around next house, and check gate etc whilst WC cleaning.

this type of house will take us 8 min
iSparkle Window Cleaning

www.isparklewindowcleaning.uk

Richard iSparkle

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Re: FAO Richard Speech ... Time and motion example
« Reply #15 on: February 27, 2012, 07:50:52 pm »
all the above is done with a sense of real urgency and both workers moving fast all the time
iSparkle Window Cleaning

www.isparklewindowcleaning.uk

AuRavelling79

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Re: FAO Richard Speech ... Time and motion example
« Reply #16 on: February 27, 2012, 07:51:45 pm »
10 - 15 mins depending if I'm in the groove or not.
It's a game of three halves!

richywilts

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Re: FAO Richard Speech ... Time and motion example
« Reply #17 on: February 27, 2012, 09:08:30 pm »
http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=Briar+Drive,+Buckley&hl=en&ll=53.163858,-3.062997&spn=0.000026,0.020921&sll=53.800651,-4.064941&sspn=12.896204,42.84668&oq=briar+drive+bu&hnear=Briar+Dr,+Buckley,+Flintshire+CH7+2,+United+Kingdom&t=m&z=16&layer=c&cbll=53.16374,-3.071127&panoid=YZWJaOFlWGRW3qt9XOp5vQ&cbp=12,90,,0,0

Hi Richard ... noticed on another post that your work method is under scrutiny again.

Thought it may be interesting to see what you do different to me and prob most on here  :)

Now then I cleaned a house today identical to the one in the googlemap link above. ... (house on right)

No access issues.

My way of working

Out of van
Open rear doors
Remove hose reel
Connect pole hose to hosereel
Pull hose out
Do Rears
Do Sides (only 1 side as semi)
Do Fronts
Pack pole away
Reel hose back in
Hose reel in back of van
Write Envelope
Put through letterbox
Drive off

3 windows on front
1 front door
2 side windows
4 rear windows
1 rear door

Start to finish 13.5 minutes .... which I rekon is about the average ??

How long would it have taken you and can you tell the forum what you do differently ?
[/quote

hey ian!

Not a lot different really.  Main thing is that the hose reel is attached to the van..


van stops, driver jumps out opens doors, grabs hose and unwinds straight to back gate.  if open he leads hose all way round to back and waits for WC.  
if locked he leads hose to start point at front of house and waits for WC.

WC gets out van, puts on belt, grabs pole and walks fast to wheredriver is waiting.  driver plugs in hose.  WC starts to clean.

if gate locked driver then rings bell top access back,  if no answer starts to see if can unlock gate.

once gate open driver sets hose out around the house and then fills in card for client and posts.

once card posted driver back to WC and helps him move around the house so hose not caught.

WC finishes cleaning, driver helps him get back to van, WC reals in hose whilst driver jumps in van, sets sat nav, and when ready leaves.

if cleaning a neighbour driver will lay out hose around next house, and check gate etc whilst WC cleaning.

this type of house will take us 8 min

i cant see how that justifys paying a wage myself richard for the time you save yourself to clean more houses those extra houses must just about pay the drivers wage
Richard Wiltshire
Window Clean Direct

richardwiltshire36@yahoo.co.uk
www.windowcleandirect.co.uk
07894821844

Carl@Cwc

  • Posts: 1076
Re: FAO Richard Speech ... Time and motion example
« Reply #18 on: February 27, 2012, 09:15:09 pm »
all the above is done with a sense of real urgency and both workers moving fast all the time

hi m8
aint here to knock you by the way.
so your other operative doesnt clean at all ?

stuart mc

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Re: FAO Richard Speech ... Time and motion example
« Reply #19 on: February 27, 2012, 09:29:51 pm »
agree with richy, plus I could clean that on my own in the time it takes the two guys.

high flow rate

reel stays in van

reel out start working

slips in my pocket so the they can be posted if no one in
 knock the door before starting the front