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Londoner

Re: Hose pipe ban/drought. Where do we stand
« Reply #20 on: February 20, 2012, 05:28:08 pm »
A drought order doesn't affect registered businesses. But as most of us are not registered as business users with the water company now we are already breaking the rules and liable to be fined.

I dont want to sound like an idiot here (although i am  ;D) but if im on a meter surely im paying for what i use anyaway? whats the difference? it costs them the same to supply me with water as the chinese takeaway down the road?

I don't know, I have always avoided talking to the water company about it. For obvious reasons

elite mike

Re: Hose pipe ban/drought. Where do we stand
« Reply #21 on: February 20, 2012, 05:33:14 pm »
has anyone see what the boss of thames water earns a year  ::)

£800000

alright for someone who cannot do his job  >:(

Paul Coleman

Re: Hose pipe ban/drought. Where do we stand
« Reply #22 on: February 20, 2012, 06:09:03 pm »
It would cause serious financial consequences for me if I can't use WFP.  If I dwell on it too much, very dark thoughts enter my mind.  Scary stuff.

magic moments

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Re: Hose pipe ban/drought. Where do we stand
« Reply #23 on: February 20, 2012, 06:57:21 pm »
It mentions on southern water site about use of waterfedpole ,I'm not sure I read it correct but I think its ok to use unless its the last level of drought ?

dd

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Re: Hose pipe ban/drought. Where do we stand
« Reply #24 on: February 20, 2012, 06:58:54 pm »
Bit worrying as these normally start in the summer.

Bryan_Dolby

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Re: Hose pipe ban/drought. Where do we stand
« Reply #25 on: February 20, 2012, 07:02:16 pm »
For everbody

It is southern water get on there web site for info

They are doing a eight week consultation period

Bryan
Bryan Dolby
( Member F.W.C.)
My opinons are my own and nothing to do with the federation of window cleaners

magic moments

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Re: Hose pipe ban/drought. Where do we stand
« Reply #26 on: February 20, 2012, 07:12:35 pm »
What info did you see about wfp, as I was unsure on southern water

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Re: Hose pipe ban/drought. Where do we stand
« Reply #27 on: February 20, 2012, 07:22:02 pm »
I was a little unclear too as it says

phase 1 - Cleaning domestic windows, walls, or patios with a hosepipe

phase 2 - Cleaning windows at commercial buildings

phase 3 - Cleaning windows on non-domestic buildings by small businesses using water-fed poles

not sure where we would stand.

mike roberts

Re: Hose pipe ban/drought. Where do we stand
« Reply #28 on: February 20, 2012, 07:43:54 pm »
The sickening thing about this is that plenty of water falls on the UK. We just don't catch enough of it. Add the billions of litres that are lost daily through leaks and no wonder they can drum up a shortage and blame us.

UK suffers from a chronic shortage of investment in infrastructure. Roads, railways (spending the whold budget on a new line from London to Brum), water, even mobile phone networks are better in Germany than here. It's all about squeezing the max from the consumer whilst keeping supply at one notch above chaos levels. Not surprising when our utilities are maily french and german-owned. And don't forget that the population has increased by 10% in the past 20 years whilst the supply has stayed virtually the same.

And as usual Mrs Bloggs will be hydrating her roses with bathwater in May and we'll be the new Satan. At least you boys can trad. Not easy to trad a wheelie bin  >:(

And the twenty trillion litres of water that should be sat safely in non-existant reservoirs will be diluting the North Sea.

Does anyone remember the time when water was unmetered and included in the rates? A lot of extra money has been extracted from us since they started charging, and in return for some pretty amazing bonuses for the water companies and their shareholders - I'll bet they're glad we're all after the bankers.

Scoop does your unit not recycle water ?? thks Mike

geefree

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Re: Hose pipe ban/drought. Where do we stand
« Reply #29 on: February 20, 2012, 10:27:37 pm »
tell them Its rainwater ??? in a drought ????? ::)

H2GoKent

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Re: Hose pipe ban/drought. Where do we stand
« Reply #30 on: February 20, 2012, 10:44:47 pm »
Yes why not? It has been raining we are not living ina desert it's just not enough rain for the ineeficient collection system.
A manager is generally someone who has been promoted to the position by someone else who didn't see them as a threat.
Hence all people are promoted to the level of their incompetence

Scoop

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Re: Hose pipe ban/drought. Where do we stand
« Reply #31 on: February 21, 2012, 08:58:30 am »
Scoop does your unit not recycle water ?? thks Mike
Yes it does. Basically all bin cleaners should have a system that transfers clean water to dirty tank throughout the day, or a single tank where the water is 'Smirnoffed' (Triple-filtered) and reused. The idea is that this keeps the not inconsiderable filth from wheelie bins out of the surface water drains which then run into streams, rivers etc.

But at the end of the day I have to chuck that water away down a foul (sewage) drain so I'm still using 500 litres a day which puts me in the same boat as everyone else.
Don't wish it were easier. Wish that you were better - Jim Rohn

AuRavelling79

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Re: Hose pipe ban/drought. Where do we stand
« Reply #32 on: February 21, 2012, 05:34:10 pm »
Put hand behind back and cross fingers.

Well sir, every week I drive to Wales/Scotland/Cumbria/Cornwall* and fill my van tank with the plentiful water that is to be found there. I then pump it through a special softening system to your windows.

Uncross fingers.

*whichever is closest.
It's a game of three halves!

steeley

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Re: Hose pipe ban/drought. Where do we stand
« Reply #33 on: February 21, 2012, 05:48:55 pm »
surely they thought about this at the time they wanted us to convert from traditional methods of cleaning?? I shall carry on as normal regardless

Steve_c

Re: Hose pipe ban/drought. Where do we stand
« Reply #34 on: February 21, 2012, 05:49:18 pm »

mike roberts

Re: Hose pipe ban/drought. Where do we stand
« Reply #35 on: February 21, 2012, 05:52:13 pm »
Scoop does your unit not recycle water ?? thks Mike
Yes it does. Basically all bin cleaners should have a system that transfers clean water to dirty tank throughout the day, or a single tank where the water is 'Smirnoffed' (Triple-filtered) and reused. The idea is that this keeps the not inconsiderable filth from wheelie bins out of the surface water drains which then run into streams, rivers etc.

But at the end of the day I have to chuck that water away down a foul (sewage) drain so I'm still using 500 litres a day which puts me in the same boat as everyone else.
I see ..
Have you got any details on the filtration part of the system ? especially what size it filters down to... microns ... would appreciate anything u have.

david watts

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Re: Hose pipe ban/drought. Where do we stand
« Reply #36 on: February 21, 2012, 06:54:15 pm »
you just need to use less water;start by just rubbing windows with water off.
then any windows with net curtains or frosted glass just wet them a bit
use less and it will go further and if you have any herberts that take half an hour in the shower
get them out faster :D
life is like a box of chocolates you get the crap no one else wants

CLEANCARE WC

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Re: Hose pipe ban/drought. Where do we stand
« Reply #37 on: February 21, 2012, 07:45:23 pm »
Can you imagine if it does happen?......

Episode V The Tradder strikes back!  ;D
WE CLEAN BY FAITH, NOT BY SIGHT WITH WATER FED POLE WHEN WORKING AT HEIGHT.

Scoop

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Re: Hose pipe ban/drought. Where do we stand
« Reply #38 on: February 22, 2012, 09:47:26 am »
I see ..
Have you got any details on the filtration part of the system ? especially what size it filters down to... microns ... would appreciate anything u have.


I put the bins into a fibreglass insert in the back of my van (Citroen Relay) - it fits two side by side. The water tank is under the bins.

Water runs from the pressure washer out of the bins and through a rough wire screen. This catches all the 'big bits' (nappies, condoms, used tampon applicators, syringes, crack pipes etc) which are usually stuck to the side of the bin. Strained water goes straight back into tank.

Pressure washer inlet is a hose with a nylon lantern filter on it (400 micron). This used to get clogged very quickly so I added a cylindrical wire mesh over it (about 8" diameter by 2ft long which I cover with the leg off an old pair of tights (not mine - they'd be too big  ;D). This gets rid of 95% of fine particles and because the filter is large it doesn't get clogged. Cover the rough edges of the wire filter with tape before you put the tights on it to avoid 'laddering' them.

This then runs to a 100 micron glass bowl filter which is in a handy place for me to keep and eye on it and clean it out when needed (usually about 50 bins). There is a final Y intake 100 micron mesh strainer which I clean about once a month - hardly anything in it as the glass bowl has already taken the 100 micron particles out.

In spite of this you are always running the pump on dirty water as anything less than 100 microns gets through. So as time goes by you will need a new pump - it's not like jetting with fresh tapwater. Friend of mine has designed his with 800 litre clean water tank and then a 600 litre dirty water tank so no need for filtration, but you need a much bigger van  :)

All filters available from Exchange Engineering in Grantham - phone them and they'll send you a catalogue - 01476 578505 - very cheap. Hope this helps.
Don't wish it were easier. Wish that you were better - Jim Rohn

Klean07

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Re: Hose pipe ban/drought. Where do we stand
« Reply #39 on: February 22, 2012, 01:39:31 pm »
If your registered as a commercial customer then it won't affect you. However if your wasting loads of water down the drain and haven't yet registered as being commercial then I'm sure you'll soon be getting a visit from the water company in your area.
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