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mark m

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Video of diy tank cage
« on: February 19, 2012, 08:51:26 pm »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64yjac5VEHY&context=C3b6247bADOEgsToPDskK6gvnHFThD4SS_DcxbgJL7

I thought i would make another video , i am not getting any better at making video`s it not as easy as it sounds
But it might be of some help to someone ,let me know what you think

CLEANCARE WC

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Re: Video of diy tank cage
« Reply #1 on: February 19, 2012, 08:58:53 pm »
nice job mark  ;)
WE CLEAN BY FAITH, NOT BY SIGHT WITH WATER FED POLE WHEN WORKING AT HEIGHT.

sparkleglass

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Re: Video of diy tank cage
« Reply #2 on: February 19, 2012, 09:54:32 pm »
nice job mate,,,,, are you going to crash test it ..... ;D ;D

Frankybadboy

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Re: Video of diy tank cage
« Reply #3 on: February 20, 2012, 07:12:23 am »
 :o :o :o :o

Dave Willis

Re: Video of diy tank cage
« Reply #4 on: February 20, 2012, 07:50:03 am »

andyM

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Re: Video of diy tank cage
« Reply #5 on: February 20, 2012, 08:10:10 am »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssOL1tIPOrM

To be fair the construction of the racking in the video does look pony.
They have possibly used particle board instead of plywood. Particle board can have voids in its construction making it weaker.
Plywood would be better, and I would use 12mm thick ply. In the video that looks to be about 6mm at a guesse which is substantially weaker.
If 12mm plywood had been used and then glued and screwed and fixed in place correctley I doubt that it would of moved an inch.

One of the Plebs

mark m

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Re: Video of diy tank cage
« Reply #6 on: February 20, 2012, 04:57:04 pm »
It is a shame you think the racking looks pony if  i had used 12mm ply as you said after a short amount of time  when water had got to it ,it  would have blown i am keeping my back back up there and hose reel when the cold weather set in so your ply would last 5 minutes  instead all wood was glued and screwed  i used 75mm x 50mm where the battery is and 15mm x 50mm for the rest  all the wood has  a 25mm  gap so water does not set on it so will not rot . Then  which is not shown all the wood has a fiberglass resin added just like the wooden uprights


12mm ply pony ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

andyM

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Re: Video of diy tank cage
« Reply #7 on: February 20, 2012, 05:04:01 pm »
Mark....calm down.....calm down.
The comment I made is about the racking in the video from Mark Etting.
Look at my post again.  :-*
One of the Plebs

Dave Willis

Re: Video of diy tank cage
« Reply #8 on: February 20, 2012, 05:19:58 pm »
What worries me Mark M is that you seem to be relying on the bulkhead taking the whole weight of the tank should you have a head on. I don't think it would. There is a huge amount of weight there, I don't know what size your tank is and it's entirely up to you what you do with it but I know I wouldn't want to sit in there or put one of my kids in the passenger seat. A flat tank might not be so bad but an upright would be worse.

Up to you mate.

Erithwc

Re: Video of diy tank cage
« Reply #9 on: February 20, 2012, 05:29:05 pm »
i might be wrong but im sure that bulk heads are not designed to with stand the weight of a full water tank more like small drills and for security.

Don't worry though because if the bulk head don't stop the tank you and anyone else that is in the front will stop it.

Seriously i would ring the makers of the bulk head and find out what it is made for better safe than sorry  :) :) :)

ScrimShady

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Re: Video of diy tank cage
« Reply #10 on: February 20, 2012, 06:28:38 pm »
Its does look nice mark but i feel that tanks should be properly secured with either steel cages or steel tank straps secured to the chassis with substantial spreader plates.. that's just my option but i wouldn't have a tank secured to a bulkhead either, the is massive forces going on if you very crash.. not being bitchie mate, just my option.

mark m

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Re: Video of diy tank cage
« Reply #11 on: February 20, 2012, 06:38:10 pm »
Mark....calm down.....calm down.
The comment I made is about the racking in the video from Mark Etting.
Look at my post again.  :-*


sorry  :-*

mark m

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Re: Video of diy tank cage
« Reply #12 on: February 20, 2012, 07:01:31 pm »
What worries me Mark M is that you seem to be relying on the bulkhead taking the whole weight of the tank should you have a head on. I don't think it would. There is a huge amount of weight there, I don't know what size your tank is and it's entirely up to you what you do with it but I know I wouldn't want to sit in there or put one of my kids in the passenger seat. A flat tank might not be so bad but an upright would be worse.

Up to you mate.


What i have done is  what so many others do plus more

I  have used heavy duty rachet straps fixed to vans floor (eye rings fixed by renault)
150mm x 75mm wood bolted to chassis   and fiberglassed  in  
1 builders band which is used to hold down your roof at home  straped over tank and bolted to floor
one builders band straped around tank fixed though bulk head onto a steel plate

My friend is a engineer so he gave me the best bolts and steel plates  

SherwoodCleaningSe

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Re: Video of diy tank cage
« Reply #13 on: February 20, 2012, 10:39:01 pm »
I was talking to Craig at procare recently, he said that your not supposed to put a tank up against the bulkhead, there should be a minimum distance as the tank would rip straight through the bulkhead in a crash.

Simon.

mark m

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Re: Video of diy tank cage
« Reply #14 on: February 21, 2012, 02:03:39 am »
I was talking to Craig at procare recently, he said that your not supposed to put a tank up against the bulkhead, there should be a minimum distance as the tank would rip straight through the bulkhead in a crash.

Simon.

Thats going to bugger most people up then because most people have just got ratchet straps fixed to there anchor bolts
I have used ratchet straps  though anchor bolts  like most people but i have done so much more extra  that was my last precaution . But to have builders bands going around tank and steel bolted to chassis plus all the other extra`s i have done i thought i had gone overboard if i have not most of you better change your tank set up quick  :-* :-* it is a spare van with a 350lt tank in it  i am sure i have done enough

mikecam

Re: Video of diy tank cage
« Reply #15 on: February 21, 2012, 03:00:23 pm »
I was talking to Craig at procare recently, he said that your not supposed to put a tank up against the bulkhead, there should be a minimum distance as the tank would rip straight through the bulkhead in a crash.


All hgv trailers have a headboard, and these are loaded with the goods against the headboard, so there is no movement. The headboards, or, even in this case a bulkhead will only assist the tank from moving. I've no idea how strong his bulkhead is, but its best against it in any event.