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james roffey

Magma inline heater
« on: February 19, 2012, 11:24:37 am »
A few months back i had a house to clean, in a teenagers bedroom that i did it was covered in bluetac and various over sticky deposits  :-X if it had just been one or two i would have got on my hands and knees with the Ridagum or citrus gel, i decided to clean it first but use the Magma inline heater.
I put hot water in the tank and extracted at 300psi with 50ft of hose and using the Magma on its highest heat setting, the force of the heat .and the psi was enough to remove the bluetac with the wand, a few days later i was discussing this with another local carpet cleaner running a Prochem truckmount, and he said that the heat i was using was probably greater than he would be able to generate using the truckmount, to be honest i was very surprised, surely truckmounts can easily produce this type of heat when required.

Russ Chadd

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Re: Magma inline heater
« Reply #1 on: February 19, 2012, 12:04:55 pm »
Has anyone used a dedicated "steam cleaner" to remove gum and bluetac?

Colin Day

Re: Magma inline heater
« Reply #2 on: February 19, 2012, 12:07:09 pm »
Has anyone used a dedicated "steam cleaner" to remove gum and bluetac?

Yes, at a school... We soon resorted back to the BBQ lighter gel method..... :-X

Russ Chadd

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Re: Magma inline heater
« Reply #3 on: February 19, 2012, 12:46:33 pm »
So how did you find it Colin?

john martin

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Re: Magma inline heater
« Reply #4 on: February 19, 2012, 12:50:16 pm »
Has anyone used a dedicated "steam cleaner" to remove gum and bluetac?

Yes, at a school... We soon resorted back to the BBQ lighter gel method..... :-X


Have you guys gone mad on cleantalk  ....

Discussing quadvacs ! ....

Fixing your waste tanks with shrimp nets and tea strainers ...

Ed V won't like all this .... :-\

Craigp

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Re: Magma inline heater
« Reply #5 on: February 19, 2012, 12:59:12 pm »
Back to topic. I have recently been using a Ashbys V2 steam mate with my TM as my heat exchange has been bypassed awaiting repair.

No way does it produce the heat of the TM heat exchange, it just couldn't keep up, I'd get good heat after putting the wand down for a few mins, then it would go Luke warm. But this was at 350 psi, on a 100 psi portable maybe it could keep up better.

Btw I just gave away my steam mate to Ashbys, sent it to them for repairs then hand a list as long as my arm of things wrong with it, costing £480 had to tell them to keep it as I have only sold it on for 200. Not worth the £20 posting it back to me.

I have heard the magna is not so relieible either.

All in all they seem temperamental little things, I wouldn't buy one again.

Colin Day

Re: Magma inline heater
« Reply #6 on: February 19, 2012, 01:03:23 pm »
Has anyone used a dedicated "steam cleaner" to remove gum and bluetac?

Yes, at a school... We soon resorted back to the BBQ lighter gel method..... :-X


Have you guys gone mad on cleantalk  ....

Discussing quadvacs ! ....

Fixing your waste tanks with shrimp nets and tea strainers ...

Ed V won't like all this .... :-\

I don't want to sound like a broken record, but until you reveal your identity, I point blank refuse to talk to you about the matter.... ;)

Ian Gourlay

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Re: Magma inline heater
« Reply #7 on: February 19, 2012, 01:15:57 pm »
Colin, I believe you have a Magna Heater what results do you acheive.

Craig re Steammate , what was wrong with it  price seams high compared to a new one . sounds like a complete rebuild and only thing worth keeping was case.

Colin Day

Re: Magma inline heater
« Reply #8 on: February 19, 2012, 01:24:09 pm »
Mine's the Mytee Hot and it's a great bit of kit, the water gets very hot. I'll be using it tomorrow on one job if my tap connector doesn't allow me to plumb the Zeta in.

I would highly recommend it if you are a slave to heat (like me). You just need to change your wand technique, ie, 4 wet passes then dry pass thoroughly to allow the ILH to "catch up" ,before doing another 4 wet passes...

Craigp

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Re: Magma inline heater
« Reply #9 on: February 19, 2012, 02:48:57 pm »
Ian, well it just sprung a leak, so I sent it to them and they said loads of others things needed doing, I think that's just Ashbys for you, someone told me they gave them a Ninja to service and the bill came too £1,000  ooch!


Russ Chadd

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Re: Magma inline heater
« Reply #10 on: February 19, 2012, 03:27:51 pm »
Has anyone used a dedicated "steam cleaner" to remove gum and bluetac?

Yes, at a school... We soon resorted back to the BBQ lighter gel method..... :-X


Have you guys gone mad on cleantalk  ....

Discussing quadvacs ! ....

Fixing your waste tanks with shrimp nets and tea strainers ...

Ed V won't like all this .... :-\

Ed is a person who encourages ideas, in fact everyone who is involved in the development of the Jag would welcome any input as long as it is constructive and benefits everyone.

Any idea no matter how silly it may sound to some people can evolve into solutions...

john martin

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Re: Magma inline heater
« Reply #11 on: February 19, 2012, 03:59:53 pm »
Has anyone used a dedicated "steam cleaner" to remove gum and bluetac?

Yes, at a school... We soon resorted back to the BBQ lighter gel method..... :-X


Have you guys gone mad on cleantalk  ....

Discussing quadvacs ! ....

Fixing your waste tanks with shrimp nets and tea strainers ...

Ed V won't like all this .... :-\

Ed is a person who encourages ideas, in fact everyone who is involved in the development of the Jag would welcome any input as long as it is constructive and benefits everyone.

Any idea no matter how silly it may sound to some people can evolve into solutions...

Yes , i wasn't dissing your efforts to improve the pumpout filtration system , i think thats worth pursuing .
As far as Ed V encouraging ideas , anytime iv read of someone suggesting improvements , alterations to the waste tank , e.g no gap between gate and bottom , hes defended it as being part of a two stage filtration system ...  to me its just a fundamental flaw .

Craigp

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Re: Magma inline heater
« Reply #12 on: February 19, 2012, 04:36:58 pm »
John, what's that got to do with inline heaters?

Please start a new topic and don't hijack this one.

john martin

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Re: Magma inline heater
« Reply #13 on: February 19, 2012, 04:39:38 pm »
John, what's that got to do with inline heaters?

Please start a new topic and don't hijack this one.

Yes , Apologies ,  back to the inlines    :)

Ian Gourlay

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Re: Magma inline heater
« Reply #14 on: February 19, 2012, 04:51:58 pm »
Colin

That Mytee looks good did you go direct to states or source in UK

Guess it depends how longer wet pass you can get  before the two dry passes , just watched a Mytee demo on You Tube and its a postage stamp size  carpet.

john martin

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Re: Magma inline heater
« Reply #15 on: February 19, 2012, 05:25:20 pm »
mad inline from the states !!  
http://www.steam-brite.com/volcano-9000-watt-tankless-electric-water-heater-p-3562.html
and they need  twice the cords per unit compared to us !

as far as the ashbys reliability , at 3000w i'd say it contains three 1000w cores so if one goes bad it just trips the whole lot as they are on the same switch ...
at least the mytee seems to have a switch  for each core so perhaps less prone to total failure ?
also mytee seem to have a 3600w version in the states ...

this one looks like the best value per watt on uk sites
http://www.amtechuk.co.uk/shop/3_KW_Inline_Heat_Exchanger-pid-181.html

Colin Day

Re: Magma inline heater
« Reply #16 on: February 19, 2012, 06:39:57 pm »
Colin

That Mytee looks good did you go direct to states or source in UK

Guess it depends how longer wet pass you can get  before the two dry passes , just watched a Mytee demo on You Tube and its a postage stamp size  carpet.

It was 2nd hand, used about a handful of times... I couldn't believe how tiny it was, in fact I was disappointed for some daft reason.... ;D

But it is a belter. I suppose they are all much of a sameness really, but don't quote me on that....

Dennis

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Re: Magma inline heater
« Reply #17 on: February 19, 2012, 07:52:03 pm »

Shaun_Ashmore

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Re: Magma inline heater
« Reply #18 on: February 19, 2012, 08:06:27 pm »
Mytee do 2 HX's the one Dennis has found and a smaller one I'm guessing the larger one either gets hotter or stays hotter for longer.

Lot of money though the 110v in the US is $395

Shaun

Re: Magma inline heater
« Reply #19 on: February 19, 2012, 08:18:31 pm »
I've got the magma but only use it for those jobs that require severe heat.
The best results I have got from it have been when the water going in is already heated to 50 degrees if want to keep a half decent flow of hot water at the wand.
At this time of the year it would never cope with water going in at well below 10 degrees if you want 80 at the other end, well not unless you want to do 4 wet strokes and 40 dry ones.