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Dean Taberner

  • Posts: 4164
expect to make?

After the issues regarding dud thread titles this is a little tongue in cheek, but the facts are real, we have 3 vans and cover over 1500+ miles a week doing work for various  
types of work. I refer to us as we but I really mean "I".

"We" as in my young family are living a decent lifestyle for our efforts but with all of these £300 a day sole trader threads and it being a friday night and me having the weekend off I was wondering what you guys would expect to make in my situation.

8 years ago I was working alone out of a seicento with a roof rack on the top and things have accelerated out of control with VAT and going LTD ect.

It isnt all playing sailing and it certainly isnt a "look at me" thread as the real big boys on here wouldnt entertain such a post.

Im loving it as things stand with the help of my wife and im sure that we can improve over the next few years and push on even more,

Back to the original question though how much seriously would you expect to be bringing in from a venture similar to mine.

Dean




Operations manager at J.V Price Ltd

http://www.thepricegroup.co.uk

Moderator David@stives

  • Posts: 8829
Hi Dean

I know how much you roll over, but it isnt enough for that staffing level.

I think you are approx 46% off what you should be achieving

Dean Taberner

  • Posts: 4164
Hi Dean

I know how much you roll over, but it isnt enough for that staffing level.

I think you are approx 46% off what you should be achieving

46%???

I was thinking more around 49%.

Thanks for your feedback though, I will take it in and push on.  :)

Dean
Operations manager at J.V Price Ltd

http://www.thepricegroup.co.uk

Moderator David@stives

  • Posts: 8829
thats what I like about you dean, Always showing off, "look at me"  "look at me"

me me me me em me em me me me me    ;D

Fair play to you though, for being brave enough to talk about your business, I am too scared myself  these days, I cant even show a pic anymore, i am not allowed to talk about my business, I usually get shot down in flames.  :'(

Gav Camm lammy 283

  • Posts: 7520
dean i think i got a good knowledge
of you business
but only you can answer the question
yr asking !!!
i would say yr substansibly better off now
but as you say windows can be distressing at times
also very rewarding at times !!!
the vast majority of our revenue
goes back into our business
ie equipment breaks unless yr richy wilts n own a shop!!!
vans need replacing
staff come n go etc
but infront of every good general
theres a army of good men .
best wishes for '12 Gav  ;)
onwards n upwards
LET YOUR PANES BE MY PLEASURE

"If CALSBERG did WINDOW CLEANING
 it would be C.C.C  Probably the best WINDOW CLEANERS IN THE WORLD ..........."

Steve CM

At that level of man power i would expect to make over 100k a year after costs

Richard iSparkle

  • Posts: 2491
expect to make?

After the issues regarding dud thread titles this is a little tongue in cheek, but the facts are real, we have 3 vans and cover over 1500+ miles a week doing work for various  
types of work. I refer to us as we but I really mean "I".

"We" as in my young family are living a decent lifestyle for our efforts but with all of these £300 a day sole trader threads and it being a friday night and me having the weekend off I was wondering what you guys would expect to make in my situation.

8 years ago I was working alone out of a seicento with a roof rack on the top and things have accelerated out of control with VAT and going LTD ect.

It isnt all playing sailing and it certainly isnt a "look at me" thread as the real big boys on here wouldnt entertain such a post.

Im loving it as things stand with the help of my wife and im sure that we can improve over the next few years and push on even more,

Back to the original question though how much seriously would you expect to be bringing in from a venture similar to mine.

Dean






I'm going to make a beer mat sketch of £40 000 profit per van with 4 FT employees working on them, and another £27 000 profit off the 3rd van with 2 PT workers, so that's £107 000 profit a year, turnover around £260 000?

Howzat?  :-\
iSparkle Window Cleaning

www.isparklewindowcleaning.uk

Dean Taberner

  • Posts: 4164
thats what I like about you dean, Always showing off, "look at me"  "look at me"

me me me me em me em me me me me    ;D

Fair play yo you though,for being brave enough to talk about your business, i am too scared these days, i cant even show a pic anymore, i am not allowed to talk about my business anymore, i usually get shot down in flames.  :'(

Gav I totally agree mate,

I a text re that work in a minute,
Operations manager at J.V Price Ltd

http://www.thepricegroup.co.uk

king marko

I'm gonna make meself look a right tit here but hey ho -
Let's assume you do about £4/5 k a month + 4 full time x £4/5k a month + 2 part time @ £1k a month each
Total £29k a month (top estimate) £22k (bottom)
Sorry if that's way out  ;D

Simon@ Clearview contractors

  • Posts: 755
4k per week minimum.

windowcleaninginessex.co.uk

  • Posts: 716
dean i think i got a good knowledge
of you business
but only you can answer the question
yr asking !!!
i would say yr substansibly better off now
but as you say windows can be distressing at times
also very rewarding at times !!!
the vast majority of our revenue
goes back into our business
ie equipmebt breaks unless yr richy wilts n own a shop!!!
vans need replacing
staff come n go etc
but infront of every good general
theres a army of good men .
best wishes for '12 Gav  ;)
onwards n upwards
Gav,
Good quote and true.... I know you post on here a lot, but this is the 1st time I have understood your writing without reading it 2 or 3 times. Please write like this again no abbreviations.
DARREN
---THE BEST YOU CAN GET---
www.windowcleaninginessex.co.uk

Dean Taberner

  • Posts: 4164
At that level of man power i would expect to make over 100k a year after costs

Good answer Steve but it isnt that,

Thats what would be expected for the headache you would think wouldnt you?

Especially if im contributing £3-400 to the pot as a bare minimum.

A couple of my guys are members on here who dont really post but the 2 part timers are as said at best part timers.

Its all good fun though,

Dean
Operations manager at J.V Price Ltd

http://www.thepricegroup.co.uk

Dean Taberner

  • Posts: 4164
thats what I like about you dean, Always showing off, "look at me"  "look at me"

me me me me em me em me me me me    ;D

Fair play yo you though,for being brave enough to talk about your business, i am too scared these days, i cant even show a pic anymore, i am not allowed to talk about my business anymore, i usually get shot down in flames.  :'(

Gav I totally agree mate,

I will text re that work in a minute,
Operations manager at J.V Price Ltd

http://www.thepricegroup.co.uk

james peters

  • Posts: 990
profit after everything £1400 a week.... thats week in week out 52 weeks a year....

Dean Taberner

  • Posts: 4164
expect to make?

After the issues regarding dud thread titles this is a little tongue in cheek, but the facts are real, we have 3 vans and cover over 1500+ miles a week doing work for various  
types of work. I refer to us as we but I really mean "I".

"We" as in my young family are living a decent lifestyle for our efforts but with all of these £300 a day sole trader threads and it being a friday night and me having the weekend off I was wondering what you guys would expect to make in my situation.

8 years ago I was working alone out of a seicento with a roof rack on the top and things have accelerated out of control with VAT and going LTD ect.

It isnt all playing sailing and it certainly isnt a "look at me" thread as the real big boys on here wouldnt entertain such a post.

Im loving it as things stand with the help of my wife and im sure that we can improve over the next few years and push on even more,

Back to the original question though how much seriously would you expect to be bringing in from a venture similar to mine.

Dean






I'm going to make a beer mat sketch of £40 000 profit per van with 4 FT employees working on them, and another £27 000 profit off the 3rd van with 2 PT workers, so that's £107 000 profit a year, turnover around £260 000?

Howzat?  :-\

That's a good effort at a guess mate,  is that what you would want?

Cheers,

Dean.
Operations manager at J.V Price Ltd

http://www.thepricegroup.co.uk

Dean Taberner

  • Posts: 4164
I'm gonna make meself look a right tit here but hey ho -
Let's assume you do about £4/5 k a month + 4 full time x £4/5k a month + 2 part time @ £1k a month each
Total £29k a month (top estimate) £22k (bottom)
Sorry if that's way out  ;D

Are you from nottingham mate?
Operations manager at J.V Price Ltd

http://www.thepricegroup.co.uk

Dean Taberner

  • Posts: 4164
profit after everything £1400 a week.... thats week in week out 52 weeks a year....

Fantastic guess mate and I can't fault it. But what happens if a driver is off and you have to work yourself whilst paying the driver who isn't in for being off.

Its all good fun.
Operations manager at J.V Price Ltd

http://www.thepricegroup.co.uk

David Kent @ KentKleen

  • Posts: 1712
I would 'want' to be earning 60 to 70k a year up here in the dark north east from your set up!

Gav Camm lammy 283

  • Posts: 7520
i love to earn his salary and dont
forget his dividend now he's ltd  ;D
payable 3x a year lol ;D
LET YOUR PANES BE MY PLEASURE

"If CALSBERG did WINDOW CLEANING
 it would be C.C.C  Probably the best WINDOW CLEANERS IN THE WORLD ..........."

Richard iSparkle

  • Posts: 2491


I'm going to make a beer mat sketch of £40 000 profit per van with 4 FT employees working on them, and another £27 000 profit off the 3rd van with 2 PT workers, so that's £107 000 profit a year, turnover around £260 000?

Howzat?  :-\
[/quote]

That's a good effort at a guess mate,  is that what you would want?

Cheers,

Dean.
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hey dean.

from my position now, that money would definitely come in handy!  i hear what you re saying about staff and stress, and i guess you only know if it's worth it when you get there...

i reckon those figures are the minimum i would want for that sort of set-up...  i think you can get more profit out of it, but how much extra work that'd be ...  i;m not sure  :P
iSparkle Window Cleaning

www.isparklewindowcleaning.uk