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Jim_77

Re: rugs - colour run
« Reply #40 on: February 10, 2012, 11:23:19 pm »
Mark, impossible to tell just from the design because the design is Turkoman - but the Pakistan Bokhari is a copy of it so you'd need to inspect the construction and "feel" it I'd suggest ???

Richard Basey-Fisher

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Re: rugs - colour run
« Reply #41 on: February 11, 2012, 05:58:28 am »
i am always in a muddle but at least i am better looking than billy  which is not difficult

Mike Halliday

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Re: rugs - colour run
« Reply #42 on: February 11, 2012, 06:38:01 am »
Mike,

What do you call, or where can you get the grey grid the rugs sitting on?


I bought it from Arco, don't know its name but it is sold as a walk way protector used in fish houses it is only 900mm wide so i have to lay 4 lengths side by side

Arco have a clearance sale every February, I bought it then really cheap.To  buy at  full price is was £8/m
Mike Halliday.  www.henryhalliday.co.uk

L.Doubtfire - The Blade Runner

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Re: rugs - colour run
« Reply #43 on: February 11, 2012, 08:33:37 am »
Mike,even at trade rates,Franklins would charge more than
What the rug is worth,possibly at the rugs price when new. ::)
Chemspec do a good reducing bleach,I used to use Stapro`s
`Sta-White`, now no longer made I think.


Lewis  Doubtfire
L. Doubtfire
Window Cleaner

Craigp

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Re: rugs - colour run
« Reply #44 on: February 11, 2012, 08:39:52 am »
Good result on the tassels. For the rest of the rug, as a few others have said, Dave L told me sometimes you can saturation clean (hose method) and just keep going and eventually the loose dye will flush right out - wouldn't have thought it would out of the tassels though. But doing that and then the tassels the way you done would be a top result, a lot of work though.

Billy Russell

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Re: rugs - colour run
« Reply #45 on: February 11, 2012, 08:47:16 am »
Mike,

What do you call, or where can you get the grey grid the rugs sitting on?


There called fatigue mats

robertaigin

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Re: rugs - colour run
« Reply #46 on: February 11, 2012, 02:47:18 pm »
I would just like to say for anyone who is interested, the first rug is 100% a Pakistan Bokhara. These rugs DO NOT usually run. It is NOT an Afghan Bokhara as someone said (and these do not usually run either).

This rug is not worth bothering with as the value is zero second-hand.

The second rug is a South West Persian Abadeh. No great value, maybe £300- 400 retail.


Try to be nice to each other.  :)

Robert
Always here to help.

Mike Halliday

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Re: rugs - colour run
« Reply #47 on: February 11, 2012, 05:13:37 pm »
Would any one like to guess how much the customer paid for these rugs from a 'specialist dealer'

Ok..ok. I'll tell you

The runner was £650 and the large rug was £1700 this not bullpoo as they showed me the reciept
Mike Halliday.  www.henryhalliday.co.uk

Paul Moss

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Re: rugs - colour run
« Reply #48 on: February 11, 2012, 08:46:49 pm »
I would just like to say for anyone who is interested, the first rug is 100% a Pakistan Bokhara. These rugs DO NOT usually run. It is NOT an Afghan Bokhara as someone said (and these do not usually run either).

This rug is not worth bothering with as the value is zero second-hand.

The second rug is a South West Persian Abadeh. No great value, maybe £300- 400 retail.


Try to be nice to each other.  :)

Robert


LOL
Always here to help.

Paul Moss

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Re: rugs - colour run
« Reply #49 on: February 11, 2012, 08:49:25 pm »
Is this guy for real 7 ;D

Craigp

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Re: rugs - colour run
« Reply #50 on: February 11, 2012, 08:58:18 pm »
Looks like it, his website..


http://www.gallerynomad.co.uk/cleaning--restoration-29-c.asp

Be good to have someone like this contribute.

John Milnes

Re: rugs - colour run
« Reply #51 on: February 11, 2012, 09:23:20 pm »
I'v cleaned many of these rugs (perhaps between 50 to 70 over the years)...they are -were a very popular design perhaps costing between £300 to £500 depending who is selling them and the size.

One or two I recieved were perhaps cleaned by the custy and had run into the fringe. I told them it was thier problem.
One in particular was a flood damage rug which had run just like Mikes. I told her I could remove the dye but at the expence of the fringe losing its origional appearance. I told her it could be replaced at Franklins....which was then £1.80 per meter (not a lot).
She sent it off to Franklins.

Personally, I would never again get myself involved with this sort of situation.

Always before cleaning, I stabilize the dye/colour before cleaning. Perhaps significant that there is not a lot of call these days for this type of rug. A change from traditional and not many peops buying or using in my neck of the woods :)


Paul Moss

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Re: rugs - colour run
« Reply #52 on: February 11, 2012, 09:58:27 pm »
Looks like it, his website..


http://www.gallerynomad.co.uk/cleaning--restoration-29-c.asp

Be good to have someone like this contribute.

Ahh he has a rug badger ;D think he would be better off sticking to artefacts, or Dusty can continue giving  him his info ::)

Jim_77

Re: rugs - colour run
« Reply #53 on: February 12, 2012, 02:01:13 am »
Paul, Robert is actually quite an experienced rug guy (talking decades here) so a little respect required :)

In the same way that you are not a Prochem sales rep just because you have a few of their products, I don't think he is a dusty disciple ;) ;)

My opinion: Nobody can definitely identify a rug as specifically "XYZ Persian" without having it in their hands, although with some it is very obvious.  If you looked at a photo of one I did a few months ago you'd have told me it was Persian and worth a fortune but it was a Chinese copy worth restoring but not a great deal more :)

colin fitch

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Re: rugs - colour run
« Reply #54 on: February 12, 2012, 01:06:10 pm »
Jim

Your facts are correct about Robert as usual [ but veeeeeerrrrry experienced he is a fourth generation rug dealer/restorer.

dont push him away  ;D

colin

mark_roberts

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Re: rugs - colour run
« Reply #55 on: February 15, 2012, 10:59:13 pm »
Thanks Robert.

Mark

Art of Clean

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Re: rugs - colour run
« Reply #56 on: February 16, 2012, 08:09:50 pm »
If you still have trouble with this rug ... ring me on
07554422838 or email me at pierre@artofclean.co.uk

Regards

Pierre


Paul Moss

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Re: rugs - colour run
« Reply #57 on: February 16, 2012, 08:24:47 pm »
Yer and Robert if your still not sure on identification then just give me a call.

Jim_77

Re: rugs - colour run
« Reply #58 on: February 16, 2012, 08:34:47 pm »
Stop it!

robertaigin

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Re: rugs - colour run
« Reply #59 on: February 18, 2012, 05:30:45 pm »
I'm always here to help identify and give an idea of value to those of you who would like to learn.
For those of you who already know it all........good luck.

And bye the way, the Rug Badger is a great bit of kit for anyone who is serious about cleaning rugs. And my experience comes from over 30 years in the industry and my father who was a founder member of the CCA.