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richywilts

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50 CUSTOMERS DOWN 700 TO GO!!!
« on: February 07, 2012, 07:42:34 pm »
BEEN GOING SINCE 3 OCLOCK TRANSFERRING ALL MY DATA FROM ROUND PRO TO WINDOW CLEANER PRO 50 DOWN 700 TO GO!!!!!!
Richard Wiltshire
Window Clean Direct

richardwiltshire36@yahoo.co.uk
www.windowcleandirect.co.uk
07894821844

Simon@ Clearview contractors

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Re: 50 CUSTOMERS DOWN 700 TO GO!!!
« Reply #1 on: February 07, 2012, 07:46:02 pm »
750 is impressive, how did you manage to get so many?  did you buy most of your work or have it canvassed?

Re: 50 CUSTOMERS DOWN 700 TO GO!!!
« Reply #2 on: February 07, 2012, 07:49:17 pm »
I don't know what you charge, but 750 customers at my minimum charge, works out at £117000 per year.

Rogue Trader

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Re: 50 CUSTOMERS DOWN 700 TO GO!!!
« Reply #3 on: February 07, 2012, 07:51:34 pm »
thats quite a minimium charge for up norf!

Sean Dyer

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Re: 50 CUSTOMERS DOWN 700 TO GO!!!
« Reply #4 on: February 07, 2012, 07:56:30 pm »
I don't know what you charge, but 750 customers at my minimum charge, works out at £117000 per year.

If im not mistaken richys work is 6 weekly so its 1250 a week at avg tenner

Which is 65k a year if you do 52 weeks, 60 k for 48

And in the real world likely to be much less due to weather , hols, equipment failure etc

londoncleaners

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Re: 50 CUSTOMERS DOWN 700 TO GO!!!
« Reply #5 on: February 07, 2012, 07:59:06 pm »
750 at a fiver a piece is 45 k a year plus ur 100 k commercial, must be rolling init

Let's be realistic and put them at a tender a piece and o look we have 90k a year.

So that's a grand totall of 190 k plus gutters and ect,   Yea we believe you

richywilts

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Re: 50 CUSTOMERS DOWN 700 TO GO!!!
« Reply #6 on: February 07, 2012, 07:59:36 pm »
we clean on six weekly frequency average price is prob 12-13 quid over all the rounds, it varies quite a lot the more original work was really well priced as i had it on 8 weekly originally then dropped to six weekly keeping prices the same but we had canvasser last year who has brought in pure dross so im looking to axe 100-150 off the round of bad payers n start over again
Richard Wiltshire
Window Clean Direct

richardwiltshire36@yahoo.co.uk
www.windowcleandirect.co.uk
07894821844

keyser soze

  • Posts: 1694
Re: 50 CUSTOMERS DOWN 700 TO GO!!!
« Reply #7 on: February 07, 2012, 08:02:03 pm »
poor richy i think there is some guys on here who dont think very highly of you. you have to trust face value on forums like this besides plum bob would contradict a lot if what he says was untrue cause it sounds like they are mates

londoncleaners

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Re: 50 CUSTOMERS DOWN 700 TO GO!!!
« Reply #8 on: February 07, 2012, 08:03:45 pm »
So let's get this straight, how mny custies do u clean and how much a month do u earn, be. Carfull I've trolled your profile in depth, and trust me, it's all kac, you and ur 750 custies and 200k a year

Rogue Trader

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Re: 50 CUSTOMERS DOWN 700 TO GO!!!
« Reply #9 on: February 07, 2012, 08:05:03 pm »
i dont wanna slate you richy but what i dont understand is why at your level of business that you deemed it neccesary to employ someone in the office with 750 custys ??? wtf do you do every day?

richywilts

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Re: 50 CUSTOMERS DOWN 700 TO GO!!!
« Reply #10 on: February 07, 2012, 08:05:51 pm »
This guy is so full of shi t it's unreal, his numbers never add up

Wake up man, 750 my ars e

it may sound like im talking poop i talk in what the rounds should be taking should each house be cleaned n paid for etc

in reality this never happens does it,

ive never said im loaded im struggling in fact if you go back over previous posts i employed a lad i went school with who brought on best part of 500-600+ lnew customers last year canvassing for me over three month period i cant remember the figure but its all crap money and crap customers you expect with canvassed work

duno why you say i talk sh*t all time, everything i write is how it is
Richard Wiltshire
Window Clean Direct

richardwiltshire36@yahoo.co.uk
www.windowcleandirect.co.uk
07894821844

Sean Dyer

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Re: 50 CUSTOMERS DOWN 700 TO GO!!!
« Reply #11 on: February 07, 2012, 08:13:09 pm »
So let's get this straight, how mny custies do u clean and how much a month do u earn, be. Carfull I've trolled your profile in depth, and trust me, it's all kac, you and ur 750 custies and 200k a year

Why on earth would he tell you anything about his business or earnings on an open forum, especially when you are doing it to have a dig ?!

Richy , it sounds like you have got some decent work there mate , strip out the crap get some nice gardiners gear , and graft your arse off , you will be so much better off by the end of summer, then think about the next step

Just keep the best 2/3 rds of your work and you will have a great basis to grow!

mikecam

Re: 50 CUSTOMERS DOWN 700 TO GO!!!
« Reply #12 on: February 07, 2012, 08:16:43 pm »
So let's get this straight, how mny custies do u clean and how much a month do u earn, be. Carfull I've trolled your profile in depth, and trust me, it's all kac, you and ur 750 custies and 200k a year
Hi mate, i don't know you but if i can be so bold as to suggest you might be taking this forum malarkey to serious. I don't think its meant to outright insult or stalk anyone. Might bite you on the arse !! Apart from that, you're doing good for a guy whose first language isn't English.

keyser soze

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Re: 50 CUSTOMERS DOWN 700 TO GO!!!
« Reply #13 on: February 07, 2012, 08:17:14 pm »
seriously a guy i worked for prior to going alone had 5 vans . each taking between 200 to 250 per day of which he took 50 per cent , he supplied the van and equipment and each day a list of custys , some with phone numbers highlighted which meant they had to be contacted prior to cleaning . so if you anaylise that its 225 a day average per van =1125 per wk x 5 =5625 per week and say 48 weeks a year 270 k per year . now i know some of you guys would say what about vat well he got around that one by setting 3 companies up therefore eliminating vat probs, the guy is minted , he uses the cheapest equip and the poles are like scaffold poles i kid you not. after a day working for him was tough purely cause his equip and vans are rubbish . prices varied from 3.00 to 50.00 so there wasnt a price structure as like many of you guys with the minimum charge but as a business he had it down to a tee, so my point is it can be done i dont think richy is talking rubbish .  

richywilts

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Re: 50 CUSTOMERS DOWN 700 TO GO!!!
« Reply #14 on: February 07, 2012, 08:18:07 pm »
i dont wanna slate you richy but what i dont understand is why at your level of business that you deemed it neccesary to employ someone in the office with 750 custys ??? wtf do you do every day?

my friend came out of his job and hes very good at sales, i was struggling to keep up with paperwork, help cleaning etc because i had a baby on boxing day in 2010,we had just suffered my first break in so i brought chris to do commercial sales and basically run the business for me coz i was struggling due to her being unwell a lot due to a dairy intolerance and my missus needing a hand depressed after first break in, between may-oct things were going well,loadsa new work cumin in, first cleans takin ages, then complaints began coming in etc, started getting messed about with payments, then boom van system began breakin,sent it to get repaired for nearly two weeks, then got it bak and boom second break in.since then its gone down hill.

i know a lot on here slate me etc but i post honestly got no reason to lie, im entrepenurial and it sometimes gets in the way of me making logical business decisions, i find managing staff quite difficult im too laid back and iv found out the hard way.

il admit it now that employing my friend to manage the business has been a major mistake and its left me in the poo, hes not done many sales and drained a lot of money what i did have out the business and not really took the business forward that much from where it was.

but il turn it around give me two months i know what needs to be done,and some nice commercial in pipeline



Richard Wiltshire
Window Clean Direct

richardwiltshire36@yahoo.co.uk
www.windowcleandirect.co.uk
07894821844

Window Washers

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Re: 50 CUSTOMERS DOWN 700 TO GO!!!
« Reply #15 on: February 07, 2012, 08:20:06 pm »
I don't know what you charge, but 750 customers at my minimum charge, works out at £117000 per year.
you have a 13 min charge ? is that on domestics?
If your not willing to learn, No one can help you, If you are determined to learn, No one can stop you ;)

mikecam

Re: 50 CUSTOMERS DOWN 700 TO GO!!!
« Reply #16 on: February 07, 2012, 08:21:52 pm »

my friend came out of his job and hes very good at sales, i was struggling to keep up with paperwork, help cleaning etc because i had a baby on boxing day in 2010,we had just suffered my first break in so i brought chris to do commercial sales and basically run the business for me coz i was struggling due to her being unwell a lot due to a dairy intolerance and my missus needing a hand depressed after first break in, between may-oct things were going well,loadsa new work cumin in, first cleans takin ages, then complaints began coming in etc, started getting messed about with payments, then boom van system began breakin,sent it to get repaired for nearly two weeks, then got it bak and boom second break in.since then its gone down hill.

i know a lot on here slate me etc but i post honestly got no reason to lie, im entrepenurial and it sometimes gets in the way of me making logical business decisions, i find managing staff quite difficult im too laid back and iv found out the hard way.

il admit it now that employing my friend to manage the business has been a major mistake and its left me in the poo, hes not done many sales and drained a lot of money what i did have out the business and not really took the business forward that much from where it was.

but il turn it around give me two months i know what needs to be done,and some nice commercial in pipeline



Steady on Rich, if these posts get any longer they're gonna be longer than Wagga's new book (his Autobiography) !!!  ;D
Available on Amazon i think !  ;D

Lee Pryor

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Re: 50 CUSTOMERS DOWN 700 TO GO!!!
« Reply #17 on: February 07, 2012, 08:21:58 pm »
just ignor it.

everyones business is different. The forum has one man with a ladder earning f all right up to the million or more tunover and everything in between.

why doubt or slate people, does it really matter? the forum is a place to teach, learn and share.

I hardly writte anything here these days because of crap like this.

In a way I love it that so many window cleaners are small minded and have no business skills. It makes growing my business so much easier.
The best way to predict the future is to create it.

Window Washers

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Re: 50 CUSTOMERS DOWN 700 TO GO!!!
« Reply #18 on: February 07, 2012, 08:22:58 pm »
So let's get this straight, how mny custies do u clean and how much a month do u earn, be. Carfull I've trolled your profile in depth, and trust me, it's all kac, you and ur 750 custies and 200k a year

Why on earth would he tell you anything about his business or earnings on an open forum, especially when you are doing it to have a dig ?!

Richy , it sounds like you have got some decent work there mate , strip out the crap get some nice gardiners gear , and graft your arse off , you will be so much better off by the end of summer, then think about the next step

Just keep the best 2/3 rds of your work and you will have a great basis to grow!
^^^ this is a good post  ;)


just ignor it.

everyones business is different. The forum has one man with a ladder earning f all right up to the million or more tunover and everything in between.

why doubt or slate people, does it really matter? the forum is a place to teach, learn and share.

I hardly writte anything here these days because of crap like this.

In a way I love it that so many window cleaners are small minded and have no business skills. It makes growing my business so much easier.
So is this ^^^  ;D
If your not willing to learn, No one can help you, If you are determined to learn, No one can stop you ;)

Re: 50 CUSTOMERS DOWN 700 TO GO!!!
« Reply #19 on: February 07, 2012, 08:25:23 pm »
I;m not knocking richy, if he has 750 customers then thats what he has, but I think that richey is counting the ones who don't pay or have them cleaned all the time.

I have loads of customers like these, but all have been dumped and I never count them.

you should only count the ones who pay and have them cleaned a least 11 out of every 13 cleans