[Moderator David@stives]

ha yes I thought so

Deans cousin

[Frankybadboy]

GET OVER IT LADS



When you see something cheaper then you buy it,simple you dont buy the dearest there is.


me thinks some of you think you got a god given right to this work.GET REALLY


 

[Andrew Willis]

Andrew

Read my other post

Do I have to pay Charlie £250 before I get the privilege

Charlie can you advise David

Dave,  I may be missing the point of the whole nationwide thing

Correct me if I am wrong

The concept is that a contractor could acquire regional postcodes
That operator then secures the right to receive any work in that area
So if this can encourage national retail outlets to place its business with Nationwide this could be distributed to a group of reliable local contractors.

What I have suggested to Charlie

To win multiple National retail
Contracts need to be procured with a single point of contact at Nationwide
(help desk)
Information past to regional contact
Individual contractors price local outlets
Collective contract value
Nationwide invoicing
Handling fee %
Individual companies invoice Nationwide
Nationwide satisfaction certificate on completion

Postcode contractors would benefit from a standard delivery profile
Compliance with health and safety and employment law
Registered with Inland Revenue
Trained and competent
Code of practice to be written and strictly applied  
Quality equipment in good working order
Strictly no sub contracting

Collectively, promote, PR, Market success and encourage all others to follow suit

Stop recent cases

Greggs,
Boston Lincolnshire, local previous window cleaner
Direct two cleans per week  £80 per week
= £40 per clean takes 1 hour to clean each time

National picks it up and then sub contracted various times
Latest price someone trying to get a clean it up window cleaner to pick it up for £4.50

Time for change Dave

[stuart mc]

Greggs,
Boston Lincolnshire, local previous window cleaner
Direct two cleans per week  £80 per week
= £40 per clean takes 1 hour to clean each time

it must be a very big greggs or very slow window cleaner, and at £40 per hour no wonder they are going national

[Gav Camm lammy 283]

no greggs av ever paid £80

[Moderator David@stives]

Andrew

 to join Nationwide, doesn't it cost £50 month ?

Correct me if I am wrong, nothing wrong with that.

But if that is the criteria to gain the national work, then isn't that just as bad ?

[Steve CM]

Watched a couple of guys clean the clinton cards facia and it was cleaner when he first started,looked like he had been to fill his bucket up out of the river. and they left it like that.
the two greggs stores have not been touched since i stopped doing them a couple of months ago.
these are just 2 of the stores i used to clean,and now they look like crap. next is the same,river island,all the high street banks,i could go on and on.....

Is that the clintons opposite M&S? If so we have been cleaning that for about 6 months.

[Moderator David@stives]

on another note, do you know how much work would be involved allocating 2000 shops to 2000 different window cleaners

Chaos pure Chaos and that would be just one chain

imagine running 20 chains, i can just imagine the helpdesk calls now

Good luck

[tom cronin]

These chains go to a national company because they take over the whole property management, the cleaning, cleaning products, washroom supplies, it's just easier for them to deal with one company I guess. I've worked for a company, I was cleaning 2 chains of bookies, and covered east/north London postcodes, my round was piece of p, get it done in 2 days

[j.v. price ltd]

Andrew

This is the plan for Nationwide Window Cleaners but we need the teams in place before we can tender for the works, I feel we could win every chain on the high street as every store manager i have ever spoken to has said i wish i could have the local guy back.......

J.V. Price has 4 national chains as it is, that we sub out and over the last year we have been asked to tender for (you ready for it) 12 others and we have walked away due to prices.

3 of these have since come back to us as windows on stores all over the place are not being cleaned as the local guy that did them for £10 a week does not want to do them for £5

If we could get the network together (THAT EVERYONE TALKS ABOUT ON HERE EVERY TIME ANOTHER CHAIN GOES NATIONAL>>>>> AND THEY ALL WILL!!!!!!!!!!!!!) we would be able to approach retail window cleaning in a different way....

NWC would be making money from the subscriptions so would only need to take a 5-10% handling fee for the invoicing and help desk service instead of the companies that now tend to take 50% on each clean.......

This would just be one part of the Network, we could also look at our own federation, group buys on everything we need, training programs, H&S and HR advice line this list can go on and on.......

But best of all the yearly window cleaners p up and BBQ at Andrew Willis house....

Andrew glad you see the vision and the potential



The process has started lets just hope we can get there.

Andrew

Read my other post

Do I have to pay Charlie £250 before I get the privilege

Charlie can you advise David

Dave,  I may be missing the point of the whole nationwide thing

Correct me if I am wrong

The concept is that a contractor could acquire regional postcodes
That operator then secures the right to receive any work in that area
So if this can encourage national retail outlets to place its business with Nationwide this could be distributed to a group of reliable local contractors.

What I have suggested to Charlie

To win multiple National retail
Contracts need to be procured with a single point of contact at Nationwide
(help desk)
Information past to regional contact
Individual contractors price local outlets
Collective contract value
Nationwide invoicing
Handling fee %
Individual companies invoice Nationwide
Nationwide satisfaction certificate on completion

Postcode contractors would benefit from a standard delivery profile
Compliance with health and safety and employment law
Registered with Inland Revenue
Trained and competent
Code of practice to be written and strictly applied  
Quality equipment in good working order
Strictly no sub contracting

Collectively, promote, PR, Market success and encourage all others to follow suit

Stop recent cases

Greggs,
Boston Lincolnshire, local previous window cleaner
Direct two cleans per week  £80 per week
= £40 per clean takes 1 hour to clean each time

National picks it up and then sub contracted various times
Latest price someone trying to get a clean it up window cleaner to pick it up for £4.50

Time for change Dave

[j.v. price ltd]

£15 a month per area

Andrew

 to join Nationwide, doesn't it cost £50 month ?

Correct me if I am wrong, nothing wrong with that.

But if that is the criteria to gain the national work, then isn't that just as bad ?

[j.v. price ltd]

Dave

We do this now its so easy you get the list and send it to Dean Job done!!!

on another note, do you know how much work would be involved allocating 2000 shops to 2000 different window cleaners

Chaos pure Chaos and that would be just one chain

imagine running 20 chains, i can just imagine the helpdesk calls now

Good luck

[Gav Camm lammy 283]

£15 a month per area

Andrew

 to join Nationwide, doesn't it cost £50 month ?

Correct me if I am wrong, nothing wrong with that.

But if that is the criteria to gain the national work, then isn't that just as bad ?

[glen parva]

boston greggs

[j.v. price ltd]

The greggs contract for the 1500 shops they had used to be just shy of £2mil a year, the guy that had it funny enough got out of window cleaning and got into sun bathing.......

no greggs av ever paid £80

[Moderator David@stives]

Where did I get £50 from ?

good luck with it Charlie

We both know what the Nationals take and the pitfalls.

[Gav Camm lammy 283]

£15 a month per area

Andrew

 to join Nationwide, doesn't it cost £50 month ?

Correct me if I am wrong, nothing wrong with that.

But if that is the criteria to gain the national work, then isn't that just as bad ?

interested at 15 quid a mth

[Gav Camm lammy 283]

boston greggs

you doing that 1 john ?

[jarvy]

Watched a couple of guys clean the clinton cards facia and it was cleaner when he first started,looked like he had been to fill his bucket up out of the river. and they left it like that.
the two greggs stores have not been touched since i stopped doing them a couple of months ago.
these are just 2 of the stores i used to clean,and now they look like crap. next is the same,river island,all the high street banks,i could go on and on.....

Is that the clintons opposite M&S? If so we have been cleaning that for about 6 months.

Think this was before you had it steve,i know your vans!

[glen parva]

boston greggs

you doing that 1 john ?

yes mate and 1 in coalville is a big as this one