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David Salkeld

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Re: 6mm or 8mm hose whats best
« Reply #20 on: January 24, 2012, 11:20:35 am »
6mm Problems.......

My experience....

I have 6mm Wintecs about 85 mtrs (cut a 100mtr)

The Shurflow 100psi pump is availeble to us in 2 different FLOW RATES:
5.3 lpm and 3.4 lpm
Most Discribed as "100psi Shurlow Pumps" are the 5.2 lpm and, I found, unles controled (slowed down) they push too much water down 6mm and the pump will jump.  I changed to the 3.4 lpm and no problem.
I found the 3.4lpm here:
http://www.cleaningspot.co.uk/acatalog/water_pumps.html
Note both are available here
8000 441 138 3.8 lpm
8000 946 135 5.2 lpm

David
Good Honest Service

dd

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Re: 6mm or 8mm hose whats best
« Reply #21 on: January 24, 2012, 12:06:14 pm »
David
What is the actual flow rate you get with your set-up without a controller? Thanks.

CLEANCARE WC

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Re: 6mm or 8mm hose whats best
« Reply #22 on: January 24, 2012, 12:14:08 pm »
It's not poop, it's fact boys! ;D

You have to run a pump faster & with a higher pressure setting (which both combined would represent it working "harder") with 6mm hose than 8mm to achieve a set flow rate. ;)

However, the pumps are up to the job with either hose but reflecting the above fact, with 6mm you'll use more battery power & have more pressure in the system- which is why you see posts with no end of leaks, connectors popping of etc etc. ;)

It might be true what your saying winpro but I GET PLENTY ENOUGH OUT OF MY BRUSH HEAD EVEN WHEN I WANT TO CRANK IT UP (sorry just seen caps) with wide fans on for fascias etc. no leaks, and my battery lasts over a week on one charge...all i need my friend  ;D
WE CLEAN BY FAITH, NOT BY SIGHT WITH WATER FED POLE WHEN WORKING AT HEIGHT.

David Salkeld

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Re: 6mm or 8mm hose whats best
« Reply #23 on: January 24, 2012, 12:57:20 pm »
David
What is the actual flow rate you get with your set-up without a controller? Thanks.

Figures don't mean a lot to me only when choosing the right pump. 
As for in use,the 3.8 lpm, I have to slow the pump down or it throws out, in my opinion, way too much.

David
Good Honest Service

♠Winp®oClean♠

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Re: 6mm or 8mm hose whats best
« Reply #24 on: January 24, 2012, 02:10:26 pm »
It's not poop, it's fact boys! ;D

You have to run a pump faster & with a higher pressure setting (which both combined would represent it working "harder") with 6mm hose than 8mm to achieve a set flow rate. ;)

However, the pumps are up to the job with either hose but reflecting the above fact, with 6mm you'll use more battery power & have more pressure in the system- which is why you see posts with no end of leaks, connectors popping of etc etc. ;)

It might be true what your saying winpro but I GET PLENTY ENOUGH OUT OF MY BRUSH HEAD EVEN WHEN I WANT TO CRANK IT UP (sorry just seen caps) with wide fans on for fascias etc. no leaks, and my battery lasts over a week on one charge...all i need my friend  ;D

You'll still get enough flow mi old mucka ;D but if you used 8mm you'd get that same flow with the pump running slower & with less pressure, there are benefits which come with this. ;)

That's my main point.


 As for pump durability, I think most pumps are well capable of both 6mm & 8mm hose & for how cheap pumps are I don't think it's a very valid argument.

♠Winp®oClean♠

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Re: 6mm or 8mm hose whats best
« Reply #25 on: January 24, 2012, 02:24:43 pm »
It's not poop, it's fact boys! ;D

You have to run a pump faster & with a higher pressure setting (which both combined would represent it working "harder") with 6mm hose than 8mm to achieve a set flow rate. ;)

However, the pumps are up to the job with either hose but reflecting the above fact, with 6mm you'll use more battery power & have more pressure in the system- which is why you see posts with no end of leaks, connectors popping of etc etc. ;)

It might be true what your saying winpro but I GET PLENTY ENOUGH OUT OF MY BRUSH HEAD EVEN WHEN I WANT TO CRANK IT UP (sorry just seen caps) with wide fans on for fascias etc. no leaks, and my battery lasts over a week on one charge...all i need my friend  ;D

You'll still get enough flow mi old mucka ;D but if you used 8mm you'd get that same flow with the pump running slower & with less pressure, there are benefits which come with this. ;)

That's my main point.


 As for pump durability, I think most pumps are well capable of both 6mm & 8mm hose & for how cheap pumps are I don't think it's a very valid argument.

Not between me & thee, just in general. ;D

red star

Re: 6mm or 8mm hose whats best
« Reply #26 on: January 25, 2012, 06:13:16 pm »
went for 100m of 6mm

Jeff Brimble

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Re: 6mm or 8mm hose whats best
« Reply #27 on: January 25, 2012, 06:30:03 pm »
David
What is the actual flow rate you get with your set-up without a controller? Thanks.

Figures don't mean a lot to me only when choosing the right pump. 
As for in use,the 3.8 lpm, I have to slow the pump down or it throws out, in my opinion, way too much.
David
Yep I use the small pumps (But have up to 18L/min options) and use a bypass to reduce the flow further. I use 4mmID and 6mmOD cheap flexible silicon type airline hose  8)


dave.e

Re: 6mm or 8mm hose whats best
« Reply #28 on: January 25, 2012, 06:56:51 pm »
i have used 6mm hose for the last 6 years with one pump lasting 4 of them years with no flow conn at all so i think it dose not matter witch hose you use its down to personal choice