[joshem]

I am curious to know how I stand on this:

I have a young lad, 17, that is a friend of the family who can see the advantages of window cleaning and would like to do so one day. He's currently attending college to gain a skilled trade. I'm gonna take him out with me in a few weeks' time but definitely won't be letting him do any ladder work (cushy eh!) for obvious safety reasons. At the moment I don't have enough work to employ and I don't know if I'd want the headache of doing so anyway.

BUT let's say I could drum up a day's work for the lad once a week to give him a bit of dosh whilst at college but he would be self-employed and, I suppose, nothing to do with me? He doesn't drive etc. so couldn't possibly become a window cleaner at the moment. He would use all my gear and we'd work together for that day and I would then give him a cut. Before anyone says, he's completely trustworthy so I'm not risking anything.

How do I stand?

[Chriss]

If you provide all the kit and he does not work anywhere else he is not self employed,

[Helen]

If you don't have enough work to employ someone then I can't see the point. To do this for this lad legit, you would have to put him on the books, register with HMRC as an employer get employers insurance and so on. For one day a week,would it be worth it to you?
If he is training for a skilled trade, no point in you wasting your time, effort and money in traing him in window cleaning really

[rscleaningservices]

same as what Helen says !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[joshem]

Thanks for the replies but I'm not looking for advice on whether I should or shouldn't do it but if it's allowable in the way I've described? I suppose it would be like a partnership and, if that was the only way, then I wouldn't bother...

[Pope vader]

no it wouldnt be allowed he would have to be employed

[Helen]

no it wouldnt be allowed he would have to be employed

as he said

[GDwindowcleaning]

There are ways round it, alot of big companies employ this way...

[William McCafferty]

I am curious to know how I stand on this:

I have a young lad, 17, that is a friend of the family who can see the advantages of window cleaning and would like to do so one day. He's currently attending college to gain a skilled trade. I'm gonna take him out with me in a few weeks' time but definitely won't be letting him do any ladder work (cushy eh!) for obvious safety reasons. At the moment I don't have enough work to employ and I don't know if I'd want the headache of doing so anyway.

BUT let's say I could drum up a day's work for the lad once a week to give him a bit of dosh whilst at college but he would be self-employed and, I suppose, nothing to do with me? He doesn't drive etc. so couldn't possibly become a window cleaner at the moment. He would use all my gear and we'd work together for that day and I would then give him a cut. Before anyone says, he's completely trustworthy so I'm not risking anything.

How do I stand?

Basically ou would be up poop creek without a paddle.

I know a lot of people take on casuals and they get away with it, but there are others who don't and they end up paying poop loads to the taxman.

Even though you have taken ladders from him because of H&S there is still the chance that an accident can happen, if it does and its serious, the hse will become involved and the first thing they will want to see is your employers insurance.

You of course don't have any, so bye bye house and hello poverty street.