[Richard Avis]

Ok so canvass, clean the next day and canvass the rest of that day?

As soon as i get a job clean next day and then arrange for 2 weeks or a month after?

[GDwindowcleaning]

Yes, I would try and stick to 4 weekly as much as you can....

[Richard Avis]

Ok Thanks.

[Ste M]

Ok maybe your right, but i feel that £100 a day is very low that would be the equivalent of around 15-20 houses per day, that is not alot to get at all and £5 a house is also low for a standard 3/4 bed semi which most houses in my area seem to be??

is £8ish around the mark others charge for the average house?

Bay window ground floor front
Front door
Bay window upstairs front
bedroom window front
2/3 a couple of back windows
back door

or should i ask more of this size of job - monthly??

I actually about 20 miles from liverpool and i know a few window cleaners who i have done odd bits of shining for, trad and pole work hence the interest in starting myself.....so i dont think i would suffer from the liverpool abundance in w/c

from asking around a lot of neighbours, parents at school, local businesses etc etc there are huge amounts of people without a w/c and hardly see one.

Maybe i am asking too many detailed questions and i need to get out there and test the water??

20 miles which way and which part of liverpool as you'll be lucky to get well priced work in certain area's. Other areas you will get it but you'll find other wc's there and this will create the other issue, there is no hope in hell of you cleaning that house mentioned above in less than an hour when you first start out. Then when you do get your speed up, usually a few months, you will need to have it very compact to hit your targets if your traditional. Then even if your wfp the only time you will hit your targets is if A. You have very compact work B your pricing is high.

[Roy Cauldery]

Hi Richard
wow , you got loads of question which to be honest only you can answer?
I think you need to decide what type of cleaning you want to offer(trad v pole) and then invest in the best you can afford
Get some flyers made up(printing.com will do 5000- full colour/double sided for about £100.00)there are lots of flyers shown elsewhere on this site -put all your services and a landline number too.You might want to get a couple of nice logo'd t-shirts done as well
Then GO FOR IT- lots and lots and lots of canvassing.If your serious ,this wont phase you one bit and it will also give you handle on whats out there and what your competitors are charging.And whats the worse someones gonna say on the doorstep,no?You wont know till you ask the question!
If you get customers on 4 weekly to start,you will soon get a round going quickly and then it will have a snowball effect-people will see you working and just stop you in the street.If you go for a pole system and its not the norm where you live, people will fall over themselves to use you.Be bold and confident in your kit and your services and you will be up and running in no time

Good Luck ,I hope this helps

regards

Roy Cauldery
www.phoenixecs.co.uk

[windiewasher]

If your earning 100 a day average by next year I will be very suprised
I have heard people saying Fiver a house in Liverpool is good.
First of all you won't need a 35 ft  pole.
Get a 18 footer and a 30 footer.
Get your kit and clean your own windows as its not easy as it may look plus you need to purify your water everyday.
Say your average is 8 quid a day.31 houses to do 250 quid a day everyday.
X that by 5 by 4.
620 custys every 4 weeks.I predict a early grave.

[Richard Avis]

I get the feeling Doc windows is a negative chap....or maybe i'm over optimistic,

Roy Cauldrey sounds more like my type of guy!! nice and positive.

just to clarify Doc Windows,

I understand WFP and trad and have done it for a friend in the trade on more than a few occasions,
I have used WFP systems, understand a great deal about purifying the water, consumables, spare pumps etc
I am not in Liverpool!
I don't intend on working myself to an early grave
Domestic is not my only target

I'm no competition to my friend as we live about 2 hours from each other now so he has been very helpful to me in advice.

Canvassing doesn't phase me at all as i have done this for a job about 6 years ago for utility companies!
I have considered the snowball effect...which is an unreliable bonus to the job.

Thanks Roy for your positivity and honesty.

Anyone else who wants to be helpful and remotely positive as well as honest is more than welcome to chip in!

As i said before, i'm not suggesting this will be easy but surely a positive attitude and a willingness to work hard and canvass hard will give me a good chance to hit £150 a day in around 6 months??

I came here for good advice and some honest help.

I do really think £100 is achievable a day - £8 average per house - 13 houses per day in 7 hours - 2 houses an hour!
This is realistic in the small but comprehensive experience and help i have had so far.

[GDwindowcleaning]

I got to over 100 a day in 8 weeks from a standing start, everyone is different though. I have done alot of canvassing so if you ever need advice get in touch. Just go for it and you will achieve what you deserve...

[Richard Avis]

Thanks GD, I got your mail address from your profile, thanks for the help.

[Ste M]

I live in Liverpool. I think if I'm honest I'm the only cleaner around. I get on average 10 new houses a day at an average of £40 a clean takes me 10 minutes to do an they all pay on the day. Access is perfect. Don't have to purify the water as the water is already pure from the mersey. Local run scheme even gave me 10k to start my business up. I now make in excess of 80k a year an life is great.

There you go. That's the reply it sounds like your after. Go out there an clean as you seem to only want to hear the positives anyway. Won't get no more replies of me on this thread so good luck

[Richard Avis]

Ste M, your an idiot,

£5 a house you say

remember this post you made      "i just ask what they currently pay, i they say £10 then i say ill do all their frames and cills as well as windows and also facias once a year foc for £5"

No wonder you charge a fiver a house, you undercut every other cleaner as you are happy making nothing.

What a terrible philosophy!

Why not work smart, price fairly, do a good honest job and surely your customers will stick with you. £5 a house is rubbish i know that from working here and there as favours for friends.

Thanks for not posting on this thread any more...

Sensible, realistic, honest posters are still welcome

I do detect a hint of trying to scare newbies off........??

[windiewasher]

Ste is right you just want people to say yes its easy you can earn £250 in half a hour!
 Its very hard,there are many other windies about!
 You price houses at a tenner and if others are charging £5,see how many new custys you get!
 Its not easy,maybe you are a know it all,in that case why come here asking a milion and one questions?
 If you have done it before and know how it all works why are you asking here?
 Why not just ask the bloke you worked with?
 

[Richard Avis]

Doc windows....

if i asked the my friend i only get one real world, honest opinion..

I came in search of some more like minded people with good advice to offer...

So far there's been you and Ste moaning.....you'll be telling your mates how well paid your job is later!

[windiewasher]

Doc windows....

if i asked the my friend i only get one real world, honest opinion..

I came in search of some more like minded people with good advice to offer...

So far there's been you and Ste moaning.....you'll be telling your mates how well paid your job is later!

It isn't bad pay but you have to put a lot of hard work into it,it doesn't fall on your lap.
 Its not something that will make you rich overnight aswell.
 You must canvass,buy good quality leaflets,get uniform,get your van sign written,nice website,get yourself on the top page of google for your area.
 Keep canvassing and leaflet delivering,never take your foot of the gas.
 It also is a very boring and mundane job and somedays you can lose the will to live.Somedays you canvass and get loads of work another day you go out and noboddys in or people look at you like you have 2 heads.
 You will always get messers and these are better to replace that try and hope they will become good customers.
 
 Canvassing is easy but after a hard days work you might not be bothered to go canvassing.But is very worthwhile,maybe your best to get people working for you canvassing or find a canvassing company that you can trust.
 Im not having a go at you but showing you it is not a easy job and is not always fun and definately will not make you rich,maybe a few exceptions but very few!

[Gav Camm lammy 283]

i think ste m is a very honest lad
knowing him extremly well
he talks a lot of sense and knows
what he's talking about
1 as he cleans around these areas
and 2 he's a scouser
also i know ste dont charge anywhere near a fiver
a house

[Richard Avis]

Doc windows that was such a better, down to earth post.

Thanks for clear honesty

[windiewasher]

Doc windows that was such a better, down to earth post.

Thanks for clear honesty

No probs and pressure washing is good money as a odd weekend job here and there but concentrate on the window cleaning as its regular work.
 Might be wise to get a gutter vac!
 cheapleaflets.net do very good leaflets 5000 a6 double sided on 250g card at £53 ive just ordered some!

[Richard Avis]

£53 is good for 5000 i think!

out of interest, do you drop a leaflet then knock a day later or so, or do you knock and drop a leaflet if no one answers

[windiewasher]

£53 is good for 5000 i think!

out of interest, do you drop a leaflet then knock a day later or so, or do you knock and drop a leaflet if no one answers

I have done drops in the past but not always get great results.
I will be knocking with a team and on the back i have a bit where i quote for windows so when they are not in i will fill the quote box for each house!
 The quality of them are perfect.Very easy to post as they are like card!

[Richard Avis]

The quote section sounds really helpful!

I plan to knock and leave a leaflet and if no one is in leave a leaflet anyway, just dropping leaflets left, right and centre without knocking and hoping for the best i think is a little bit of a waste.

I was planning on investing in a pressure washer just to pick some one off's for Saturdays as and when i can for some extra as i am building.

Gutter vac is something i can get once i have some spare cash and decent regular round work.