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sean84

First clean technique
« on: January 02, 2012, 09:06:31 pm »
Im going to be doing my first cleans soon so I just wanted to get my technique straight in my head before I start! Ive worked for a window cleaner years ago (so do have experience) but if I remember rightly we never cleaned the frames, only sills.
Anyway, included in my price Im going to clean the frames as well as sills so just wanted to know the best way / process to do this?

Do you:

1. Dip sill cloth in solution and wipe down all frames. Clean glass with applicator, squeegee off the wipe sill.

2. Dip sill cloth in solution and wipe down all frames, buff off wet frames with a dry cloth. Clean glass with applicator, squeegee off the wipe sill.

Hope this makes sense.

Also do you wipe frames every time or every other time?


bobplum

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Re: First clean technique
« Reply #1 on: January 02, 2012, 09:20:13 pm »
extend pole,connect to tank,switch on pump and wash and rinse ;D

Smudger

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Re: First clean technique
« Reply #2 on: January 02, 2012, 09:28:26 pm »
extend pole,connect to tank,switch on pump and wash and rinse ;D

dont tease !


Darran
Never argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience

CraigBlues

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Re: First clean technique
« Reply #3 on: January 02, 2012, 09:40:02 pm »
 :D

bumper

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Re: First clean technique
« Reply #4 on: January 02, 2012, 10:26:02 pm »
no 2
then go and get 30 pound

bobplum

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Re: First clean technique
« Reply #5 on: January 02, 2012, 11:19:39 pm »
extend pole,connect to tank,switch on pump and wash and rinse ;D

dont tease !


Darran


couldn't  resist ;D

pure tech

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Re: First clean technique
« Reply #6 on: January 02, 2012, 11:52:31 pm »
Usually I wash/scrub the glass first, then wipe frames and at the same time remove excess water from edges then squeegee but keeping the sill cloth in my other hand for the final wipe of the sill.

Window Washers

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Re: First clean technique
« Reply #7 on: January 03, 2012, 08:10:31 am »
Im going to be doing my first cleans soon so I just wanted to get my technique straight in my head before I start! Ive worked for a window cleaner years ago (so do have experience) but if I remember rightly we never cleaned the frames, only sills.
Anyway, included in my price Im going to clean the frames as well as sills so just wanted to know the best way / process to do this?

Do you:

1. Dip sill cloth in solution and wipe down all frames. Clean glass with applicator, squeegee off the wipe sill.

2. Dip sill cloth in solution and wipe down all frames, buff off wet frames with a dry cloth. Clean glass with applicator, squeegee off the wipe sill.

Hope this makes sense.

Also do you wipe frames every time or every other time?


I really do hope your charging more for the extra work you will be doing, this is a classic thing that could hold you back if your not.

If your not willing to learn, No one can help you, If you are determined to learn, No one can stop you ;)

bobby p

Re: First clean technique
« Reply #8 on: January 03, 2012, 08:38:46 am »
beg to differ, itll set you apart from the rest. might force them to raise their game too if theyre going to survive

CLEANCARE WC

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Re: First clean technique
« Reply #9 on: January 03, 2012, 09:22:52 am »
beg to differ, itll set you apart from the rest. might force them to raise their game too if theyre going to survive

I will go down the middle yes do frames doing a thorough job is always a good thing, but window washers is right you need to charge a little more for this if your trad even if only on the first clean.
WE CLEAN BY FAITH, NOT BY SIGHT WITH WATER FED POLE WHEN WORKING AT HEIGHT.

sean84

Re: First clean technique
« Reply #10 on: January 03, 2012, 03:41:56 pm »
Im going to be doing my first cleans soon so I just wanted to get my technique straight in my head before I start! Ive worked for a window cleaner years ago (so do have experience) but if I remember rightly we never cleaned the frames, only sills.
Anyway, included in my price Im going to clean the frames as well as sills so just wanted to know the best way / process to do this?

Do you:

1. Dip sill cloth in solution and wipe down all frames. Clean glass with applicator, squeegee off the wipe sill.

2. Dip sill cloth in solution and wipe down all frames, buff off wet frames with a dry cloth. Clean glass with applicator, squeegee off the wipe sill.

Hope this makes sense.

Also do you wipe frames every time or every other time?


I really do hope your charging more for the extra work you will be doing, this is a classic thing that could hold you back if your not.



Didnt think I would have to charge extra, thought it would be normal practise?
Maybe when I start canvassing I could give the option to the customer for wiping down the frames?

sean84

Re: First clean technique
« Reply #11 on: January 03, 2012, 03:44:10 pm »
beg to differ, itll set you apart from the rest. might force them to raise their game too if theyre going to survive

I will go down the middle yes do frames doing a thorough job is always a good thing, but window washers is right you need to charge a little more for this if your trad even if only on the first clean.

Actually im going to do first clean half price (already have leaflets printed) to drum up some work.

SB Cleaning

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Re: First clean technique
« Reply #12 on: January 03, 2012, 03:59:31 pm »
beg to differ, itll set you apart from the rest. might force them to raise their game too if theyre going to survive

I will go down the middle yes do frames doing a thorough job is always a good thing, but window washers is right you need to charge a little more for this if your trad even if only on the first clean.

Actually im going to do first clean half price (already have leaflets printed) to drum up some work.
you might attract a lot of one off clean messers with that offer mate!

A & J Owen Window Cleaning

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Re: First clean technique
« Reply #13 on: January 03, 2012, 04:02:00 pm »
first cleans shoukd be double set price mate if you want some tips go on you tube windowcleaning technics will sort you out

sean84

Re: First clean technique
« Reply #14 on: January 03, 2012, 04:03:56 pm »
beg to differ, itll set you apart from the rest. might force them to raise their game too if theyre going to survive

I will go down the middle yes do frames doing a thorough job is always a good thing, but window washers is right you need to charge a little more for this if your trad even if only on the first clean.

Actually im going to do first clean half price (already have leaflets printed) to drum up some work.
you might attract a lot of one off clean messers with that offer mate!

 I might, but also may gain some good reliable ones too  ;)

trevor summerfield

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Re: First clean technique
« Reply #15 on: January 03, 2012, 04:15:18 pm »
dont undercharge you plonker, you do yourself and the w.c. community more harm than good.

elite mike

Re: First clean technique
« Reply #16 on: January 03, 2012, 04:21:45 pm »
dont undercharge you plonker, you do yourself and the w.c. community more harm than good.

whilst not calling you a plonker sean ,dont sell yourself short.

if you do it for half price, i would bet there will not be many take ups when you double the initial price.

Slash

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Re: First clean technique
« Reply #17 on: January 03, 2012, 04:34:13 pm »
I would never do first cleans at half price,no wonder this buisness is the way it is with people charging ridiculas prices,have a bit of respect for yourself and if not charge double charge half your initial price again,theres alot of people around my area charging half if not less what I charge and I cannot see how they make a living especially if they are FULLY INSURED and PAY TAX,
If you quote really really cheap people will think your a cowboy that is signing on and working at the same time,I like to think I quote fair,maybe a bit over sometimes and I always tell people you get what you pay for when they tell me the last guy only charged me half that.
Like I say have some self respect because you will never get anywhere doing jobs really cheap.

As for techniques I clean the frames every time,only takes a few seconds and makes a hugh difference,remember the frame too is part of the window.

sean84

Re: First clean technique
« Reply #18 on: January 03, 2012, 04:39:54 pm »
dont undercharge you plonker, you do yourself and the w.c. community more harm than good.

Please don't call me a plonker.
I'm not undercharging, I'm drumming up business. Even if the first clean is half price it works out better than min wage. If the customer likes me and what I do I may gain a customer, it's a risk. At least I'm trying to do something, make something happen and not sat around moaning about the current jobs situation.

sean84

Re: First clean technique
« Reply #19 on: January 03, 2012, 04:48:32 pm »
I would never do first cleans at half price,no wonder this buisness is the way it is with people charging ridiculas prices,have a bit of respect for yourself and if not charge double charge half your initial price again,theres alot of people around my area charging half if not less what I charge and I cannot see how they make a living especially if they are FULLY INSURED and PAY TAX,
If you quote really really cheap people will think your a cowboy that is signing on and working at the same time,I like to think I quote fair,maybe a bit over sometimes and I always tell people you get what you pay for when they tell me the last guy only charged me half that.
Like I say have some self respect because you will never get anywhere doing jobs really cheap.

As for techniques I clean the frames every time,only takes a few seconds and makes a hugh difference,remember the frame too is part of the window.

Thanks for the advice.
Btw I'm doing this the right way. Setup a separate account today. Registering for tax and using new account for direct debit of national insurance contributions. Got a quote lined up with Ryan Insurance (£89) will be paying that this week, then all set!