[Pope vader]

whats the going rate for new stafflooking to employ in feb, as going to take this business seriously next week,  they wont be driving a van, just cleaning windows wfp  9-4 monday to friday

[Gav Camm lammy 283]

£8/10 an hour 

[Richard iSparkle]

whats the going rate for new stafflooking to employ in feb, as going to take this business seriously next week,  they wont be driving a van, just cleaning windows wfp  9-4 monday to friday

min wage to start with.  after 3 months if they're good can add bonuses.  we make them do an unpaid work trial for a week too as part of the recruitment process 

[Frankybadboy]

a breakfeast a day works great

[king marko]

[quote author =richard speech link=topic=144148.msg1183749#msg1183749 date=1324526499]

whats the going rate for new stafflooking to employ in feb, as going to take this business seriously next week,  they wont be driving a van, just cleaning windows wfp  9-4 monday to friday

min wage to start with.  after 3 months if they're good can add bonuses.  we make them do an unpaid work trial for a week too as part of the recruitment process 
[/quote]Unpaid trial for week?? You having a laugh? Who in their right mind would do that??

[Ian101]

Unpaid for a week ?? Must be some desperate people out there ??

If after 2 days u know they're no good do u keep em for week unpaid or let them go ?

[William McCafferty]

The problem you will have when you first start employing, is getting the best out of your workforce and make a profit at the same time.

Remember that it will take them months to get to your speed withthe quality of clean you require, so for instance if you can clean 4 average propertys an hour, a newbie will only be able to do between 2 and 3.

So if your minimum charge is £12 per house and you pay £10 per hour, so with all the extra costs in employing (tax, ni, sickness, holiday and from next year for some companies Pensions) you will be paying out over 50% in wages.

The other problem is when they are doing nothing because of weather or breakdowns, do you send them home without pay or pay them to "push a broom around".

What I found works best is to pay a salary based on 3 to 4 days work at the minimum wage, and every 2 months pay out a bonus on the work done.

I then increase the salary rate to 4, 5 and 6 days when they can actually do what I can.

[wightsurf]

I think you got the newbie bit wrong,unless you are lucky with who you get.if I clean 4 houses in a hr I would expect a newbie to do one and half tops lol.

[Window Washers]

I think you got the newbie bit wrong,unless you are lucky with who you get.if I clean 4 houses in a hr I would expect a newbie to do one and half tops lol.

you are from the isle of wight though, funny bunch 

[Ian Rochester]

We pay £7.50/hr, 35 hour week, plus a bonus based on team performance which is paid every 3 months and amounts this year to just over £1000.

The wage is pretty competitive for around here as many employers are paying minimum wage.

Our normal working week is 8-4 Mon to Thurs and 7-12 Fridays (Commercial).  Overtime is paid on piece rate.

[Pope vader]

the lad i am thinking of employing is 17,  was thing of £5 ph cash in hand for 2 months to see if he can do and gets up to speed, then go legit on £6.50 an hour, a lot of the employers around here only pay min wage

the hours i wil be working are 9-4.0 monday to friday,  saturday if i take on a summer job i do

[Moderator David@stives]

All my guys earn me loads of dosh from day 1, if they dont then they are not the right ones, so they are down the road.

Gav was right you need to pay between £8.00 and £10.00 to retain staff, if you just pay minimum they will be off to the next easy job before you know it.

Cash in hand wont entertain it, dishonesty doesnt pay in the end in window cleaning, it will turn around and bite you on the arse

[Helen]

the lad i am thinking of employing is 17,  was thing of £5 ph cash in hand for 2 months to see if he can do and gets up to speed,

I do hope you are joking
If you are going to take this business seriously then start employing in a serious nature. 2 months!! you'll know within 2 days if he is ok or not

[Pope vader]

good point helen,  might do  a week trial and see

[Pope vader]

All my guys earn me loads of dosh from day 1, if they dont then they are not the right ones, so they are down the road.

Gav was right you need to pay between £8.00 and £10.00 to retain staff, if you just pay minimum they will be off to the next easy job before you know it.

Cash in hand wont entertain it, dishonesty doesnt pay in the end in window cleaning, it will turn around and bite you on the arse

i know what you are saying dave, but all your lads drive,  this lad doesnt, and will only be a second man for when i am working,  i tried emplying people who could drive  and most are idiots,  or dont actually want to work,  was going to start one lad, who could drive and use to be a window cleaner,  my van insurance said ok,  then he admited even though he didnt have points on his license, he has just come off a drink drive ban, and my insurance said no,  so thought ok, can still clean windows,  then 2 weeks ago he said, cant work for you  my misses wont let me incase it rains and we might not be able to work,  so am staying where i am  (50 hours a week  for £250 working for his dad as a labourer)

[Richard iSparkle]

Unpaid for a week ?? Must be some desperate people out there ??

If after 2 days u know they're no good do u keep em for week unpaid or let them go ?

hi ian,

we let them go if they arent up for it.  its a waste of time having someone with you if you';re not going to keep them.  need to move on and trial someone else.

there's plenty who'll do a week unpaid too.  sorts out the halt arsed aplicants too.  they dont even bother to show up for the trial 

[Moderator David@stives]

Pope

There are good lads out there.

Its never cheap employing, just my van insurance is £5k

[richywilts]

Pope

There are good lads out there.

Its never cheap employing, just my van insurance is £5k

how many vans is that dave

i pay 4grand for two!!

[George P]

Pope

There are good lads out there.

Its never cheap employing, just my van insurance is £5k

how many vans is that dave

i pay 4grand for two!!

wow, i pay around 2 grand for 3 vans,

[PURER CLEAN]

Pope

There are good lads out there.

Its never cheap employing, just my van insurance is £5k