[Steve Rothwell]

we fully endorse LM but not as a stand alone system.

Why not??

[Mike Halliday]

Who cares whether the likes of Prochem etc join as associate members.

TACCA is about educating the public, not taking associate fees from manufacturers.

It is very early days but very encouraging - well done Derek.

TACCA will never be all things to all men, just as the NCCA isn't, but I'm very encouraged by some of the new members who I would not have expected to back it.

Steve its about credibility, it takes TACCA from being seen as a bunch of carpet cleaners off an Internet forum to being a voice in the carpet cleaners industry that should be listened too,  prochem & chemspec  have a good reputation in the industry having them as 'associate members will only be a good thing

[Richard Basey-Fisher]

Who cares whether the likes of Prochem etc join as associate members.

TACCA is about educating the public, not taking associate fees from manufacturers.

It is very early days but very encouraging - well done Derek.

TACCA will never be all things to all men, just as the NCCA isn't, but I'm very encouraged by some of the new members who I would not have expected to back it.

Steve its about credibility, it takes TACCA from being seen as a bunch of carpet cleaners off an Internet forum to being a voice in the carpet cleaners industry that should be listened too,  prochem & chemspec  have a good reputation in the industry having them as 'associate members will only be a good thing

Mike i would of thought the majority of the general public have never heard of prochem or chemspec.

[Jim_77]

I don't think Derek used the right words "standalone system"

I think what he meant to say was, if you bonnet clean every carpet as your standard system that's not in line with TACCA's policy.  I for one endorse that.

[Simon Gerrard]

I'm just impressed that Simon likes TACCA, after all those long boring posts that seemed to be against it
Colin,

I don't think I have ever been against TACCA, but I was skeptical, especially after the CLEAN fiasco. But Derek has surprised me and I'm sure a lot of others in his vision and sheer determination to get it to where it is today and I can actually see this becoming a real alternative to the NCCA, so everyone should join up, it costs nothing.

Simon

[Jim_77]

I think it's unfair to label CLEAN as a fiasco Simon.  It was though, a very good demonstration of how apathetic most folks are in our industry.

But just as any organisation needs to, TACCA has to do enough to grab hold of the "lone wolf" mentality many of us have and give it a bit of a shake!  Long way to go but so far very encouraging

[Simon Gerrard]

Jim,
Depends on your definition of a fiasco.

Simon

[derek west]

I think it's unfair to label CLEAN as a fiasco Simon.  It was though, a very good demonstration of how apathetic most folks are in our industry.

But just as any organisation needs to, TACCA has to do enough to grab hold of the "lone wolf" mentality many of us have and give it a bit of a shake!  Long way to go but so far very encouraging

hey! i know i want members to join but i aint giving anything a bit of a shake just to up the numbers, i aint that keen

[Paul Moss]

Thats not what i  heard about you and Billy boy 

[Craigp]

My only question is - TACCA - why ?

If it's to change the publics perception of professional carpet cleaning (as you said) I just don't recognize that problem, you see, it only matters how your customers perceive you. why try to change how the industries perceived ? You have no control over all the other carpet cleaners out there. You can only stand behind yourself and your work.

[Billy Russell]

Thats not what i  heard about you and Billy boy  

Don't start, Yosimite Sam,      yyyyyyyyyyyyeeeeeeeeeeeeehhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaawwwwwwwww!!!!!!!


 

[Colin Day]

I'm just impressed that Simon likes TACCA, after all those long boring posts that seemed to be against it
Colin,

I don't think I have ever been against TACCA, but I was skeptical, especially after the CLEAN fiasco. But Derek has surprised me and I'm sure a lot of others in his vision and sheer determination to get it to where it is today and I can actually see this becoming a real alternative to the NCCA, so everyone should join up, it costs nothing.

Simon

I added a laughy face, that made my comment tongue in cheek, didn't it...?

 I can bring the old posts up if you like

[Colin Day]

Billy,
Not quite ass kissing, but certainly the act of taking my hat off to a man who deserves my respect.
When Derek first started his business he joined Truckmounters and things got a little heated and he got banned.
Since then Derek has built and very successful business and some how or other found the time to set up TACCA and not just said he was going to do it, but got up and did it and I for one admire him immensely for it.
Anyone who wants to know how to set up a professional carpet cleaning business from the ground up - speak to Derek, and while you're at it, join TACCA!

Simon

Simon, not that sure I would call any legitimate business in the service industry successful when they dont have to pay any tax, no tax = no profit  if your honest you will agree.

Granted, some businesses do have to run for a few years before they make a profit, if its just cleaning carpets, then no! it requires very little investment to make a good profit right from the start.

I'm not having a go at Derek with this post, I used to think he was ok until he told me/others earlier this year in windy Wales that he can clean the carpets of a 3 bed house in just 45 minutes from start to finish, although in his defence he did say that didnt include the edges 

I also take my hat off to someone that can build and run a successful business and find the free time to start an association that is in place to help others, and he is doing all for free  unfortunately they dont seem to post on here.

But be warned, if you tell that guy that your s#it was black last night, and he replies mine was blacker, do yourself/others a favour and just get on with your own business 





 

Fair enough... So does that mean we shouldn't join the NCCA, after all???

[Colin Day]

You sounded pretty fed up in past posts...

Well done on you huge portfolio by the way...

Gis a job lord Sugar...

[Simon Gerrard]

Billy,
Not quite ass kissing, but certainly the act of taking my hat off to a man who deserves my respect.
When Derek first started his business he joined Truckmounters and things got a little heated and he got banned.
Since then Derek has built and very successful business and some how or other found the time to set up TACCA and not just said he was going to do it, but got up and did it and I for one admire him immensely for it.
Anyone who wants to know how to set up a professional carpet cleaning business from the ground up - speak to Derek, and while you're at it, join TACCA!

Simon

Simon, not that sure I would call any legitimate business in the service industry successful when they dont have to pay any tax, no tax = no profit  if your honest you will agree.

Granted, some businesses do have to run for a few years before they make a profit, if its just cleaning carpets, then no! it requires very little investment to make a good profit right from the start.

I'm not having a go at Derek with this post, I used to think he was ok until he told me/others earlier this year in windy Wales that he can clean the carpets of a 3 bed house in just 45 minutes from start to finish, although in his defence he did say that didnt include the edges 

I also take my hat off to someone that can build and run a successful business and find the free time to start an association that is in place to help others, and he is doing all for free  unfortunately they dont seem to post on here.

But be warned, if you tell that guy that your s#it was black last night, and he replies mine was blacker, do yourself/others a favour and just get on with your own business 

Westy,
Not got a clue what you're on about here mate. You been on the Whisky?

[jasonl]

Since then Derek has built and very successful business and some how or other found the time to set up TACCA and not just said he was going to do it, but got up and did it and I for one admire him immensely for it.


Really ?  How is this verified ?  Most succesful business people own their home not rented , and I dont think you can count not having to pay tax as a success, or being trading for just 2 or 3 years. 

Lets face it , the public as a whole do not care about carpet cleaning , TACCA is a website with 100 people subscribed , and any journalist worth their salt would simply check the facts of the people behind it (eg only 100 self regulated carpet cleaners) and attach no credibility to any statement put out.

There are media directories which are used by journalists to seek out expertise and opinion on events as they happen in the news , they would simply laugh at TACCA .

[derek west]

sorry you've fallen out with me paul over something as little as that, ive said it before and i'll say it again, i had a great day at the cleaning show with you, you were a perfect gentlemen and extremely generous to me and court. ive tried to be a good friend by passing on your number and even ringing/texting work referals to you. but if thats why youve fallen out with me then maybe its for the best. as for cleaning a 3 bed house in 45 mins, i know i can't. wish i could, and if i did say that which i probably did, then maybe i was in exageration mode like we all do from time to time. ive done the odd EOT in under an hour with no furniture and an assistant, so maybe i got carried away on the day, anyway, aint gonna lose sleep over it but if you ever forgive me then let me know and i'll buy ya a coffee for old times sake. and i mean that sincerely as i'm too old to be falling out with folk. lifes far too short.

is there a time limit for running a successful business? i'm getting there but theres still a long way to go. ive never claimed to be successful but i'm certainly going in the right direction.

As for TACCA having credibility, 3 months!!!!!! it takes a long time for something to build credibility, your having a laugh if your slating its credibility so early. slow and steady wins the race, and keep your eye on the associates page, might shock a few people over the coming months. theres a lot more people in the industry following TACCA than you may think.

give us a couple of years before you judge surely!!!!

and jason, just cos you didn't get into tacca, doesn't mean you can't help. TACCA is predominantly a HWE association, the fact that you choose to bonnet everything doesn't mean your not good at what you do. look at it as this, you own a VW beatle and TACCA is a triumph stag owners club, each car is good but it would be daft to try and join TACCA on that basis?

right 1 more job to do then that me done till after xmas, and just for the record, this morning job was 3 bedrooms no furniture to move, she said just clean what you can see, landing and stair, no hall, i had my mate helping and did it 1 hr and 5 mins from on the drive to off. i timed it. customer was a repeat from over 2 years ago, and extremely happy with the result.

[jasonl]

I was merely pointing out the ridiculousness of the statement "TACCA is brill"   It may well be one day, but as of now it is hype and a website with 100 members. 

[Simon Gerrard]

I was merely pointing out the ridiculousness of the statement "TACCA is brill"   It may well be one day, but as of now it is hype and a website with 100 members. 

Jason,
What an insulting statement. TACCA, in my view, is brill because one man out of a whole throng of us that have been moaning about the NCCA, has got up of his backside and done something about it and to pour scorn on his efforts and doubtless the money he has put into getting it up and running is disgraceful. Sour grapes, perhaps as muck spreaders are excluded.

[Andrew Briscoe]

Actually i think it is 101 members now 

Andrew