[Simon Gerrard]

I've just joined TACCA after having heard lots about it. (100th Member )
Wow , Derek has done a brilliant job with it, the website looks fanatastic and he has really thought the whole thing through in quite some detail.
If I were an NCCA member I'm not sure I'd been stumping up another two hundred quid just to be able to display their logo when you could join TACCA for free and get all the same and more benefits. Plus, I think TACCA may well be going places, so come on boys and girls, give Derek's efforts the support it deserves -  join TACCA.
http://www.tacca.co.uk/

Simon

[Billy Russell]

I've just joined TACCA after having heard lots about it. (100th Member )
Wow , Derek has done a brilliant job with it, the website looks fanatastic and he has really thought the whole thing through in quite some detail.
If I were an NCCA member I'm not sure I'd been stumping up another two hundred quid just to be able to display their logo when you could join TACCA for free and get all the same and more benefits. Plus, I think TACCA may well be going places, so come on boys and girls, give Derek's efforts the support it deserves -  join TACCA.
http://www.tacca.co.uk/

Simon

Ass Kisser!!!!!!!!!!! I like it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Steve Rothwell]

Can't


wont let me



LM clean




 

[Simon Gerrard]

Billy,
Not quite ass kissing, but certainly the act of taking my hat off to a man who deserves my respect.
When Derek first started his business he joined Truckmounters and things got a little heated and he got banned.
Since then Derek has built and very successful business and some how or other found the time to set up TACCA and not just said he was going to do it, but got up and did it and I for one admire him immensely for it.
Anyone who wants to know how to set up a professional carpet cleaning business from the ground up - speak to Derek, and while you're at it, join TACCA!

Simon

[JandS]

Can't............not got the proper gear!!!!!

John

[Ian Gourlay]

That is a lot of people to pay towards National Advertising

[Billy Russell]

Billy,
Not quite ass kissing, but certainly the act of taking my hat off to a man who deserves my respect.
When Derek first started his business he joined Truckmounters and things got a little heated and he got banned.
Since then Derek has built and very successful business and some how or other found the time to set up TACCA and not just said he was going to do it, but got up and did it and I for one admire him immensely for it.
Anyone who wants to know how to set up a professional carpet cleaning business from the ground up - speak to Derek, and while you're at it, join TACCA!

Simon

Stop being so serious!!!!!!! I'm only winding you up! usfefp!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 

[Craigp]

Billy, Simons very easy to wind up !

I'm trying to work out what usfefp stands for? Think I got the first bit, lol

[L.Doubtfire - The Blade Runner]

Simon,whats different or so good about TCCA compared to the
NCCA ? It is now many years since I was a member of the NCCA
Which in those days was called simply the CCA.
Benefits perhaps have improved slightly over the years for members
Regarding the NCCA,in fact I`m sure they have.
If membership to the TCCA is free,and benefits are more,as you say
They are then is this possibly the `beginning of the end`for the NCCA ?
Surely  no carpet cleaner will pay over £200 of his hard earned money
To be a member of NCCA when the TCCA is free?
Although you have stated that yourself.
How many of the 100 members of TCCA are presently members of NCCA?
A fair percentage at a guess I would say.
Do you know,if not what about other forum members ?


Lewis  Doubtfire

[Colin Day]

I'm a member of TACCA and would still join NCCA too if I had the time to do their courses...

[AshWhite]

And I think it's important not to get ahead of ourselves, I'm pretty sure that the reason its free is to attract new members with the intention of getting enough support so that we all chip in a bit for some sort of TV advertising campaign? I'd rather spend £200 on that I think, personally.

[Ian Gourlay]

Sky TV was Free to start

You used to get Windows and Word bundles when you bought a Computer.

[gwrightson]

Insert Quote 
And I think it's important not to get ahead of ourselves, I'm pretty sure that the reason its free is to attract new members with the intention of getting enough support so that we all chip in a bit for some sort of TV advertising campaign? I'd rather spend £200 on that I think, personally. 


some sort of tv advetising, Whats that then   a video in a doctors surgery ?

Seriously,  astronomical costs involved, and even 500 members paying £200 each i doubt would scratch the surface. 

Initialy.  yes i have    copy and pasted                                                                                          Pre Production – Creative Ideas, Scripts, Storyboards, Research, Planning, Set Design, Casting, Budgeting, Scheduling and Pre Clearance.

Production – Studio, Set Building, Shooting, Animation, Graphic Design, Music Composition and Voiceover Record.

Post Production – Editing, Grading, Audio Dubbing, Mastering, Clearcast Clearance and Delivery.

THEN OF COURSE THEIR IS THE ACTUAL SLOTS ,  10k may get you half a dozen 30 sec slots on some obscure channel, at around  3 in the morning 

geoff

 

[wynne jones]

It seems that Derek is doing lots of smart things to promote his carpet cleaning association, yet what seems to capture everyones interest is getting on the TV. I wouldn't judge the success of TACCA on the results of that campaign alone, but I bet many will in the end.

[Mike Halliday]

Can't

wont let me


LM clean

 

just on this point..... if TACCA does not endorse the use of LM methods to clean carpets then it could cause problems further down the line.

to offer an alternative to the NCCA or act as a spokes-body for the industry then you need to have the big suppliers of board..... eg prochem, chemspec..... etc....etc

how can you say to these companies we want you to join TACCA but we cannot advice our members to use your full range of chemicals as we don't think they give an acceptable result.

I think it shows a lack of understanding of carpet cleaning and they will decline membership.

thins is not criticism of TACCA I think that as the organisation evolves it should be able to assess and adjust policy.

[derek west]

way off the mark geoff, ive done the research, we're in talks with a media company and have a full inventary of costs, slot times, numbers, etc... theyve done us costings for 4 campaigns with audience number breakdowns for each campaign, theyve even done some scripts for us.
we've also just had a press release published in cleanfax, jeffs been really helpful.
we have an exciting  new associate member who is right behind us and gonna help recruit new members for us, and we've also got a training company who are interested in doing there training behind the TACCA logo.

going really well so far. and its all thanks to the guys who have got behind it and applied for membership. strength in depth as the saying goes, 7 more registered today.

if any of the guys who have registered but not applied are having trouble logging back in or have lost there password, just send me an email and i'll send details of how to reset your password. derek@affordablecleaners.co.uk come on guys its xmas,  

mike, not read all your post as i was posting my self, we fully endorse LM but not as a stand alone system.

 

[Simon Gerrard]

Simon,whats different or so good about TCCA compared to the
NCCA ? It is now many years since I was a member of the NCCA
Which in those days was called simply the CCA.
Benefits perhaps have improved slightly over the years for members
Regarding the NCCA,in fact I`m sure they have.
If membership to the TCCA is free,and benefits are more,as you say
They are then is this possibly the `beginning of the end`for the NCCA ?
Surely  no carpet cleaner will pay over £200 of his hard earned money
To be a member of NCCA when the TCCA is free?
Although you have stated that yourself.
How many of the 100 members of TCCA are presently members of NCCA?
A fair percentage at a guess I would say.
Do you know,if not what about other forum members ?


Lewis  Doubtfire

It's simple, TACCA is switched on and NCCA is switched off. Unfortunately the NCCA is run a bit like an working Menes club with a committee who seem more intent in protecting their own places of perceived importance rather than taking this industry forward. Derek seems to have put together the beginnings of what could turn out to be the successor to the NCCA because unless the NCCA adapt and change then they will quickly become an irrelevance, if they aren't already. That is why I think as many people as possible should join TACCA as possible, because only with the threat of becoming an irrelevance will the NCCA even contemplate change., but I think by the time that happens the TACCA may well have become the association of choice for the majority.

Simon

[L.Doubtfire - The Blade Runner]

Mike,when I first joined the NCCA the Host system was around
But they ( the council members at the time) did`nt recognise or
Endorse it,now they do I think.Do the NCCA recognise LM methods ?
SafeClean and Chem-Dry use HWE machines for all their `gumph`as
To using their own `foam`and `crystallised carbon bubbles`methods.
Shampooing carpets with a Columbus Dixon or a Cimex was `the way
To go`in those days.HWE was classed as a rinse machine.
Major suppliers brought into the TCCA like as you’ve mentioned will
Only get them to sell and push their own machines and products.
Just the same with the CCA or NCCA all that time ago,the `rookie`to
Carpet cleaning as I was,2 of the leading members were just hell bent
On selling Von Shrader to me.!
Everyone has something to sell,oaky it`s the world all over,if the TCCA
Can eradicate that,it`ll be some kind of miracle.
Really in my view there can be only one leading body that sets the
Standards in the industry,it`s not a competition of sorts “ My clubs a
Better club than your club “ ??
Assuming it`s brought to the attention of the general paying consumer
And general public,as it does now look,what will they make of it all ? ?


Lewis  Doubtfire

[Steve Barnett (Carpet Care Plus)]

Who cares whether the likes of Prochem etc join as associate members.

TACCA is about educating the public, not taking associate fees from manufacturers.

It is very early days but very encouraging - well done Derek.

TACCA will never be all things to all men, just as the NCCA isn't, but I'm very encouraged by some of the new members who I would not have expected to back it.

[Colin Day]

I'm just impressed that Simon likes TACCA, after all those long boring posts that seemed to be against it....

Obviously Derek was listening, Simon...

Which is why I have faith, keep at it Derek, you'll get there son...