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Johnny B

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Re: muppets for money
« Reply #20 on: November 27, 2011, 05:06:30 pm »
I got into window cleaning following 3 months of unemployment after being made redundant. I was 34 years old at the time, and I was climbing the walls because no one would give me a chance. That is until a good friend of mine with an established window cleaning business gave me the chance to work with him. That was nearly 15 years ago now, and I will always be grateful to my friend who helped me get back on my feet.

Paul makes a good point about the bitterness setting in. I was beginning to feel this way because I was being rejected for jobs on my age alone, although I was willing to do anything to prove I wanted to work.

I believe that there are guys (young and not so young) out there who are willing to work. Their attitude, appropriate dress sense and general demeanor at a properly conducted interview would clearly demonstrate their suitability.

John
Being diplomatic is being able to tell someone to go to hell in such a way that they look forward to the trip.

StockClean

Re: muppets for money
« Reply #21 on: November 27, 2011, 05:14:53 pm »
Spot on johnny

Paul Coleman

Re: muppets for money
« Reply #22 on: November 27, 2011, 05:33:29 pm »
I got into window cleaning following 3 months of unemployment after being made redundant. I was 34 years old at the time, and I was climbing the walls because no one would give me a chance. That is until a good friend of mine with an established window cleaning business gave me the chance to work with him. That was nearly 15 years ago now, and I will always be grateful to my friend who helped me get back on my feet.

Paul makes a good point about the bitterness setting in. I was beginning to feel this way because I was being rejected for jobs on my age alone, although I was willing to do anything to prove I wanted to work.

I believe that there are guys (young and not so young) out there who are willing to work. Their attitude, appropriate dress sense and general demeanor at a properly conducted interview would clearly demonstrate their suitability.

John

34 seems to be a good age to start.  I was 34 too.
It's young enough to be fit enough to do physical graft.  It's old enough to be trusted by the population at large.

boshravie

Re: muppets for money
« Reply #23 on: November 27, 2011, 05:38:15 pm »
I got into window cleaning following 3 months of unemployment after being made redundant. I was 34 years old at the time, and I was climbing the walls because no one would give me a chance. That is until a good friend of mine with an established window cleaning business gave me the chance to work with him. That was nearly 15 years ago now, and I will always be grateful to my friend who helped me get back on my feet.

Paul makes a good point about the bitterness setting in. I was beginning to feel this way because I was being rejected for jobs on my age alone, although I was willing to do anything to prove I wanted to work.

I believe that there are guys (young and not so young) out there who are willing to work. Their attitude, appropriate dress sense and general demeanor at a properly conducted interview would clearly demonstrate their suitability.

John

34 seems to be a good age to start.  I was 34 too.
It's young enough to be fit enough to do physical graft.  It's old enough to be trusted by the population at large.

Wrigley said.

Simon@ Clearview contractors

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Re: muppets for money
« Reply #24 on: November 27, 2011, 05:52:29 pm »
I think this is a really good idea and reckon I'll be taking the govt up on this incentive.

When does the idea come into force?  anyone know?

Catherine10

Re: muppets for money
« Reply #25 on: November 27, 2011, 06:06:10 pm »
I had a call the other day.  Would I like to take on an apprentice - Im sure the chap said that hourly rate was around £2.64 age group around 18/22 I think by memory, could work a full time week...., not sure if that gets  topped up by the government, they have rung about three times now.. he was going to send some info in the post - never got it.  Think I still have the number on the mobile, if anyone wants it...

stuart mc

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Re: muppets for money
« Reply #26 on: November 27, 2011, 06:22:55 pm »
I think this is a really good idea and reckon I'll be taking the govt up on this incentive.

When does the idea come into force?  anyone know?

next april, you are correct this was done at a local level in our area, and if you do it correctly it can work well

CLEANCARE WC

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Re: muppets for money
« Reply #27 on: November 27, 2011, 06:25:20 pm »
I got into window cleaning following 3 months of unemployment after being made redundant. I was 34 years old at the time, and I was climbing the walls because no one would give me a chance. That is until a good friend of mine with an established window cleaning business gave me the chance to work with him. That was nearly 15 years ago now, and I will always be grateful to my friend who helped me get back on my feet.

Paul makes a good point about the bitterness setting in. I was beginning to feel this way because I was being rejected for jobs on my age alone, although I was willing to do anything to prove I wanted to work.

I believe that there are guys (young and not so young) out there who are willing to work. Their attitude, appropriate dress sense and general demeanor at a properly conducted interview would clearly demonstrate their suitability.

John

34 seems to be a good age to start.  I was 34 too.
It's young enough to be fit enough to do physical graft.  It's old enough to be trusted by the population at large.

Im 34 now and started 10 yrs ago.
WE CLEAN BY FAITH, NOT BY SIGHT WITH WATER FED POLE WHEN WORKING AT HEIGHT.

mike roberts

Re: muppets for money
« Reply #28 on: November 27, 2011, 06:52:44 pm »
Yeah its no wonder their were riots earlier on in the year.
Really ... Seriously ! No excuse ... how about the small Businesses struggling due to riots.

Poor kids - please explain to me how locally Amazon are still taking on yet i still know 18 yr olds not prepared to even approach them, as its not the job they want!

There is always work out there - as usual our population are not prepared to do it if its hard work, when they can sit on their ar**s and get paid


G Griffin

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Re: muppets for money
« Reply #29 on: November 27, 2011, 07:01:40 pm »
Yeah its no wonder their were riots earlier on in the year.
Really ... Seriously ! No excuse ... how about the small Businesses struggling due to riots.

Poor kids - please explain to me how locally Amazon are still taking on yet i still know 18 yr olds not prepared to even approach them, as its not the job they want!

There is always work out there - as usual our population are not prepared to do it if its hard work, when they can sit on their ar**s and get paid



I can't explain how no local 18 year olds are prepared to approach Amazon, but can you explain how "as usual our population are not prepared to do it if its hard work"?
How can you say that about a "population"?
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Catherine10

Re: muppets for money
« Reply #30 on: November 27, 2011, 07:06:31 pm »
Think Mike alot of probs are with communication and confidence, seen it myself - in the old days - you know you were told to ring up firms and put yourself out there,  dont think it happens any more.  Lot of our youngsters come from broken homes - confidence at a complete low level, so its unlikely they will get on the blower.  Youngsters really need to be given a chance to prove they can do it - incentive etc, if some companies would be prepared to take people under their wings, they might flourish.

stuart mc

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Re: muppets for money
« Reply #31 on: November 27, 2011, 07:12:11 pm »
lots do exactly that I get about one to two calls a week from lads looking for work, I also get emails and cv's sent to me

Catherine10

Re: muppets for money
« Reply #32 on: November 27, 2011, 07:17:10 pm »
Thats good Stu

mike roberts

Re: muppets for money
« Reply #33 on: November 27, 2011, 07:54:05 pm »
Yeah its no wonder their were riots earlier on in the year.
Really ... Seriously ! No excuse ... how about the small Businesses struggling due to riots.

Poor kids - please explain to me how locally Amazon are still taking on yet i still know 18 yr olds not prepared to even approach them, as its not the job they want!

There is always work out there - as usual our population are not prepared to do it if its hard work, when they can sit on their ar**s and get paid



I can't explain how no local 18 year olds are prepared to approach Amazon, but can you explain how "as usual our population are not prepared to do it if its hard work"?
How can you say that about a "population"?

From trying to employ part time staff in the 'cleaning industry' .. ranging from domestic cleaners to exterior cleaners Paying from £7.5 - £12 per hr far higher than min wage... for example one ongoing external litter picking job also involved using large vacuum units.. operating in a team of 5 needed to replace one operator... cant tell you how many times we were let down every excuse under the sun .....one young guy even handed his notice in via facebook giving us 2 days notice.. in the end hired a Polish guy.. have not been let down once in 18 mths come rain or shine.

No disrespect but as your profiles are hidden and we cant see your company etc have no way of knowing ... have you taken on staff - part time etc ??

StockClean

Re: muppets for money
« Reply #34 on: November 27, 2011, 07:59:28 pm »
I got into window cleaning following 3 months of unemployment after being made redundant. I was 34 years old at the time, and I was climbing the walls because no one would give me a chance. That is until a good friend of mine with an established window cleaning business gave me the chance to work with him. That was nearly 15 years ago now, and I will always be grateful to my friend who helped me get back on my feet.

Paul makes a good point about the bitterness setting in. I was beginning to feel this way because I was being rejected for jobs on my age alone, although I was willing to do anything to prove I wanted to work.

I believe that there are guys (young and not so young) out there who are willing to work. Their attitude, appropriate dress sense and general demeanor at a properly conducted interview would clearly demonstrate their suitability.

John

34 seems to be a good age to start.  I was 34 too.
It's young enough to be fit enough to do physical graft.  It's old enough to be trusted by the population at large.

i was 23 when i started, only realy just started taking it seriously as a propper business over the last couple of years though to be honest.

G Griffin

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Re: muppets for money
« Reply #35 on: November 27, 2011, 08:02:21 pm »
Mike Roberts,
No, I've not taken on for a long time. I understand your problems but it's still a gross generalisation. 

Ps. the Facebook story is funny. Not at the time, for you, I know; but I'm sure you can laugh about it now  ;D.
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Pope vader

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Re: muppets for money
« Reply #36 on: November 27, 2011, 08:07:42 pm »
i would love to find someone who could do this job, but they either turn out to be useless or just want days off, as they need to go shopping with there wife, even though they dont drive,  the prob you got is if  alot earn over  a certain amount then they are worse off financial,  ie housein benefit,  so unless they can get a 20 k a year job it isnt worth going to work

if i didnt work and my misses didnt we would get £398 a week in benefits,   

StockClean

Re: muppets for money
« Reply #37 on: November 27, 2011, 08:10:55 pm »
Yeah its no wonder their were riots earlier on in the year.
Really ... Seriously ! No excuse ... how about the small Businesses struggling due to riots.

Poor kids - please explain to me how locally Amazon are still taking on yet i still know 18 yr olds not prepared to even approach them, as its not the job they want!

There is always work out there - as usual our population are not prepared to do it if its hard work, when they can sit on their ar**s and get paid



Erm im not condoning the riots, its a discrace and an international embarresment.

These youths are constantly bombarded with adverts for i phones, the latest clothes, and the stuff that these teenagers are all suckers for, they dont have the money for these things, no jobs, no future, nothing to do all day, easy communication via electronic devices, what do you expect? This was brewing for years to be honest.

Our kids dont have a future, they have a education system that is failing them, unrealistic veiws of what life should be like, and they are angry, and you can see why.

Catherine10

Re: muppets for money
« Reply #38 on: November 27, 2011, 08:13:45 pm »
Im with you Stock, because these are the guys that are going to be looking after us when we are old and sick - need to be given a chance.

mike roberts

Re: muppets for money
« Reply #39 on: November 27, 2011, 08:16:38 pm »
yer hear hear....sounds great but wasnt half the actual people arrested not kids but actually educated members of the public! Sorry if I am wrong please correct me..

So in actual fact that statement is nonsense



Mike Roberts,
No, I've not taken on for a long time. I understand your problems but it's still a gross generalisation.  

Ps. the Facebook story is funny. Not at the time, for you, I know; but I'm sure you can laugh about it now  ;D.


No I am still bitter  ;D ;D ;D Yes I apologise if it upset people  ;D ;D There are a few on here which drive me crazy ref taking on staff who havent even tried it... so how how can they comment  >:( >:(