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britboy

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chewing gum - pricing?
« on: January 26, 2004, 04:15:20 am »
hi everyone, nice forum ;)
i'am thinking of setting a new business up for chewing gum removal but i know nothing of how to price for this type of work,having looked around the net at certain companies sites i see they all seem to say the job is priced by contaminated metre,by job or by the hour but none say exactly how much they charge i.e per metre, any help would be much appreciated :)
thanks for reading
brit.

Les

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Re: chewing gum
« Reply #1 on: January 26, 2004, 10:55:06 am »
Hi Britboy,
I can't help you with the pricing but I would say that there doesn't seem to be shortage of work if our area is anything to go by.
I wonder how much of the work is carried out by the Councils own people and how much by outside specilalists.
Good Luck anyway. ;)

britboy

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Re: chewing gum - pricing?
« Reply #2 on: January 26, 2004, 01:25:20 pm »
thanks for the speedy reply les
there are actually a couple of firms in my area that does this work but they are spread pretty thin (no pun intended lol ) and seems to be plenty of work for me and my partner, we have asked to do some work already but have come to stumbling block on the pricing  :(
thanks all the same les
anyone else please
brit.

Re: chewing gum - pricing?
« Reply #3 on: January 26, 2004, 03:11:58 pm »
Quote
hi everyone, nice forum ;)
i'am thinking of setting a new business up for chewing gum removal but i know nothing of how to price for this type of work,having looked around the net at certain companies sites i see they all seem to say the job is priced by contaminated metre,by job or by the hour but none say exactly how much they charge i.e per metre, any help would be much appreciated :)
thanks for reading
brit.


Hope you have more joy with your local council than I do! Dealing with councils etc is extremely frustrating bids are 18 months getting sorted all that red tape would stretch to the moon! You tend to find that every now and then this problem will be tackled head on by the public moaning enough to get something done,not on a contractual basis.I`m sure you`ll have more joy approaching individual businesses and property owners.As for price, that is sooooo sensitive.I always quote top dollar for this type of work,you can only stay in business if you charge what you need to,not what the customer will pay! ::)

Marbles

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Re: chewing gum - pricing?
« Reply #4 on: January 26, 2004, 03:19:14 pm »
Hi Britboy

Not had much experience of this type of clean but i keep a database of all cleaning tasks and times to complete and use this to price quotations to prospects. Always in the ballpark.

This my sound daft but why don't you try out on the streets around your home and see how long it will take you and price accordingly. It may cost you initially but the experience gained would be invaluable. Assuming of course you already have the equipment.

Cheers!!

Andrew

Alex

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Re: chewing gum - pricing?
« Reply #5 on: January 26, 2004, 09:00:55 pm »
Brit,

Make sure before you look into the business you have full PL insurance for around 10million as I've completed work from UK companies and councils and it's what they all ask for, it’s a nightmare at times to get paid, it’s hard to get them to agree on a set price as they don’t want to pay top prices despite the fact that it’s a time consuming job.

Set yourself a business plan before you do any work for business as you want to lose money. Check out the competition as everyone is trying to get into this area, what kind of system do you use to remove the gum?

Anyway, hope some of the above helps and I’ve not put you off – keep me posted and all the best.

Alex

Les

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Re: chewing gum - pricing?
« Reply #6 on: January 26, 2004, 10:07:11 pm »
Talking of Councils, I rang ours to offer to clean some grafitti from some signs in a public car park where I live.
Talk about FRUSTRATING  >:(
Having been passed from pillar to post for about 2 weeks and no-one knowing which council or department the signs belong to, and no-one ever ringing back, I gave up :(
18 months on and the graffiti is still there.
Oh well onwards and upwards :)

Alex

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Re: chewing gum - pricing?
« Reply #7 on: January 26, 2004, 11:32:02 pm »
Les,  I'm banging my head against a brick wall when dewaling with councils - We try and help and get no help back!!

britboy

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Re: chewing gum - pricing?
« Reply #8 on: January 27, 2004, 03:55:39 pm »
thank you all for your time and suggestions, i have decided to leave the council alone for awhile and concentrate on the private side of the things.
i still do not know the pricing side of this business but i will shop around and keep asking i have heard 3 different pricing systems so far ranging from 5 pound a square metre to 10 pound, (if that helps anyone).
once again thank you all very much for your help.
brit  ;)

DP

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Re: chewing gum - pricing?
« Reply #9 on: January 27, 2004, 05:55:48 pm »
I don’t actually do this type of work, but I know people on this forum do!

So I’m wondering what the hang up is in giving britboy a simple guide to pricing.

Is it that top secret or is our friend Happyeater or even Clean_Waterless regarding the post, "Just An Observation" right?
http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=Generalcon;action=display;num=1074893385

I’m assuming its just because the people who do this work have simply not read this post yet or is it something else? (perhaps the world will end after all)  ;)

Who knows? more importantly who will tell? (even britboy passed on what he found out, which gets my humble praise for what its worth instantly)  ;D

Just another observation that’s all  :)
Everyone seems normal untill you get to know them!

britboy

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Re: chewing gum - pricing?
« Reply #10 on: January 27, 2004, 06:22:35 pm »
lol thanks DP your a gent  ;)

Duplex_UK

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Re: chewing gum - pricing?
« Reply #11 on: February 04, 2004, 07:12:48 pm »
For chewing gum removal we offer the Gum Go system, which combines vacuumated steam cleaning with special Gum Go chemical.

See http://www.duplex-cleaning.com/news/news.htm for more information.

For a free demonstration call 01227 771276 or email duplex@lineone.net

Specialist asdvice on floor cleaning and steam cleaning equipment for all commercail and industrial applications.

keith b

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Re: chewing gum - pricing?
« Reply #12 on: February 05, 2004, 12:58:37 am »
Hi Britboy,

Go to http://www.hydrotech.org.uk or email info@hydrotech.org.uk and ask for brochure!

Ian Gourlay

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Re: chewing gum - pricing?
« Reply #13 on: February 05, 2004, 08:02:53 am »
I was at my local sports centre today and counted 1000 plus pieces of chewing gum on the carpet.

The centre is cleaned by contractors why have they let it build up.

Just wondering what contractors do when they find chewing gum on the carpet.

Is removal not part of the job.

As I am also Councilor I would like to know so that I can ask a question regarding this discusting mess at the next Council Meeting.




Les

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Re: chewing gum - pricing?
« Reply #14 on: February 05, 2004, 11:32:58 am »
Hi Ian,
I think you might need to look at the contract terms that the contractors have been given.
It might seem a bit annoying if cleaners just ignore the chewing gum, but as you probably know, it's not the easiest thing to remove.
We always try to keep on top of things like this on our contract work, but you are very often pushed for time.
We had a similar problem at a Sports Centre and reccomended to the management that they put a sign up at the entrance stating ' No chewing gum beyond this point' and of course a bin to put it in next to the sign.
Seemed to work well for them.
Les :)

Ian Gourlay

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Re: chewing gum - pricing?
« Reply #15 on: February 05, 2004, 11:07:46 pm »
Les,

I agree 100% its not easy to remove but now it is going to cost considerably more.

Shame is I can not put in a bid myself

Regards

Ian

Les

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Re: chewing gum - pricing?
« Reply #16 on: February 06, 2004, 11:25:50 am »
Hi Ian,
just a bit of info for you re: removal of chewing gum from the carpet.
I just read about a website that deals with oil removal products on another post.
I checked them out and they also supply a product for chewing gum.
If it's any help the site is www.oiltechnics.co.uk
best regards
les ;)

DP

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Re: chewing gum - pricing?
« Reply #17 on: February 06, 2004, 03:35:51 pm »
Maybe I’m shooting off in the wrong direction here, but it seems to me that various councils and public area organisations are really ignoring the country wide problem of chewing gum in general.

I for one am disgusted by the amount of this outside my local parade of shops and in town centre's. How long can it be before it is highlighted as a major public health issue, as the amount of resident bacteria left in a piece of chewing must be comparable with many major infection sources.

I realise that until there is a way of curbing the reasons, cost will remain an influencing factor. However it can only be a matter of time with health legislation in frenzy at the moment that this issues will be forced.

So who will pick up the real work on this, perhaps it will transpire as another profit centre for the council or will it go to tender. Either way there will always be the private sector, so isn’t there a major future for this type of work?

I know I maybe simply stating the obvious, but there seems to be very little discussion on the matter, so is it a very well kept secret or am I completely wrong?

In case your wondering, No I dont sell chewing gum removal machines, but you never know  ;D 
Everyone seems normal untill you get to know them!

Ian Gourlay

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Re: chewing gum - pricing?
« Reply #18 on: February 06, 2004, 11:51:33 pm »
DP.

I agree with you 100% and have been campaining on the issue for the past Four Years.

I want to see Councils issue on the spot fines to offenders.

My district has aquired a machine to deal with the problem in the streets.

In House or contractor that is an ongoing debate.


At present we are in House and the staff are paid £5.00
an hour.

When contractors were used different staff used to turn up every day.

However with the fall in unemployment recruitment is much harder.

Overall standards are higher than with contractor.

Apart from chewing gum standards at sports centre are very high.





Ian Gourlay

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Re: chewing gum - pricing?
« Reply #19 on: February 06, 2004, 11:56:05 pm »
Les,

Thanks for info. on chewing gum removal.

I will have to investigate and see why it has been allowed to build up.

Thats the trouble if you sign up to get fit you come across somthing else that needs to be sorted.