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Bushboy

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Groupon On BBC news ?
« on: November 18, 2011, 06:38:31 pm »
Did you see the news tonight ,

A bakery near reading offered a cup cake offer ! , she put no limit on it &
She nearly went bust ,

Her orders went up from a hundred to thousands , at silly prices ! she had to go
From a couple of staff to 25 ! To cope .

She said worst business decision she ever made & could have been her last one .

  ;D

cardiffno1

Re: Groupon On BBC news ?
« Reply #1 on: November 18, 2011, 06:58:42 pm »
so really that's nuffin to do with groupon is it. Its her decision to do that.

Bushboy

  • Posts: 152
Re: Groupon On BBC news ?
« Reply #2 on: November 18, 2011, 07:03:09 pm »
Mmm , let me think , nothing to do with groupon on eh , yeah there business
Model is great , if your a moron that is ,

You thought about signing up then  ,  u sound like a fan ;D

Pope vader

  • Posts: 1944
Re: Groupon On BBC news ?
« Reply #3 on: November 18, 2011, 07:24:33 pm »
what would of happened of half of the people who got the cupcake, came back week after week,   she woudl be saying best decision she ever made

♠Winp®oClean♠

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Re: Groupon On BBC news ?
« Reply #4 on: November 18, 2011, 08:26:49 pm »
what would of happened of half of the people who got the cupcake, came back week after week,   she woudl be saying best decision she ever made

They obviousley didn't! ;D

That's what groupon is for- BARGAIN HUNTERS!!!

Who would buy a bun for £3 that they bought for £1 before?

jouk45

  • Posts: 2010
Re: Groupon On BBC news ?
« Reply #5 on: November 18, 2011, 09:14:42 pm »
window cleaners cant lose, the repeat buisness is really good, it is working great for me, so far out of 98 groupon custys, i have 27 on my books for every month, and they keep adding as i get through them all,

stuart mc

  • Posts: 7775
Re: Groupon On BBC news ?
« Reply #6 on: November 18, 2011, 09:19:16 pm »
window cleaners cant lose, the repeat buisness is really good, it is working great for me, so far out of 98 groupon custys, i have 27 on my books for every month, and they keep adding as i get through them all,

right jo spit out the exact details of the deal you offered then? please

jouk45

  • Posts: 2010
Re: Groupon On BBC news ?
« Reply #7 on: November 18, 2011, 09:34:13 pm »
hard work lol  the deal was glass frames cills external doors incl garage door, normal price £24  for grupon custys £8, i get £4 now i know i am having to work a bit harder first time, but after that, the repeat business is mine, and it is paying of, no canvassing or door knocking, or fliers, no outlay,  your guaranteed the custys,

gary999

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Re: Groupon On BBC news ?
« Reply #8 on: November 18, 2011, 09:37:24 pm »
window cleaners cant lose, the repeat buisness is really good, it is working great for me, so far out of 98 groupon custys, i have 27 on my books for every month, and they keep adding as i get through them all,

well well somebody is making it work fairplay matey! nice to be
proven wrong :)

you normally share any advice jouk,but on this occasion keep
to yourself and whilst the infantile know everything giggling
girlies on here keep laughing,hopefully you will be laughing
all the way to the bank! :)

stuart mc

  • Posts: 7775
Re: Groupon On BBC news ?
« Reply #9 on: November 18, 2011, 09:42:02 pm »
as gary said well done.

but do us a favour and let us know the figures still on the books after 6 months, hopefully it will be good though.

just a question though jo, you have been going for years why the need? are you expanding

Perfect Windows

  • Posts: 4321
Re: Groupon On BBC news ?
« Reply #10 on: November 18, 2011, 09:58:09 pm »
hard work lol  the deal was glass frames cills external doors incl garage door, normal price £24  for grupon custys £8, i get £4 now i know i am having to work a bit harder first time, but after that, the repeat business is mine, and it is paying of, no canvassing or door knocking, or fliers, no outlay,  your guaranteed the custys,

As I've mentioned elsewhere, the question is not whether you can get customers via Groupon but whether it's the best use of your money.  So, taking the post above and looking at your gaining 27 customers from 98 taking the deal.

You've done 98 cleans.  Now my first cleans working alone take about an hour if they are anything but tiny, so if I was wanting to value my time at, say, £12 an hour (and I value it a LOT higher than that) then that would be £1200 as near as dammit.

Well in my world, including solus delivery, a very high quality leaflet costs just under 8p.  Let's round it up to the full 8p.  So, I could send out 15,000 leaflets.  At my normal conversion rate of 0.43% that'd give me 64 customers.

There are some assumptions in there, but unless I've made a major error it'd be more efficient to leaflet.  It'd also be easier, as I'm not even delivering them in my method.  I've also ignored any costs you have had to pay out to service those customers along with travelling time.



You can see it's not a knee-jerk or "infantile" reaction to this, just a genuine doubt as to whether it's the cheapest way to gain new customers.  I may well have made a mistake with the maths; if I have feel free to point it out.

Vin

jouk45

  • Posts: 2010
Re: Groupon On BBC news ?
« Reply #11 on: November 18, 2011, 09:59:37 pm »
well i have always worked weekends as a security guard, frid sat sun nights,  guaranteed money,  getting fed up of it now, so cutting of sundays, so will need to fill up those sundays, and mondays,

jouk45

  • Posts: 2010
Re: Groupon On BBC news ?
« Reply #12 on: November 18, 2011, 10:03:39 pm »
but a warning, there are bad flaws in groupon for the evil minded, one could even get rich by it for window cleaning,  ::)

stuart mc

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Re: Groupon On BBC news ?
« Reply #13 on: November 18, 2011, 10:04:50 pm »
well i have always worked weekends as a security guard, frid sat sun nights,  guaranteed money,  getting fed up of it now, so cutting of sundays, so will need to fill up those sundays, and mondays,

no problem mate, I can see the advantage when you need work quickly, but for established guys I wouldn't do it, that is all I was hinting at, hope it works out, and of course from the gained there is word of mouth recommendations ;) which goes for leaflets or groupon.

jouk45

  • Posts: 2010
Re: Groupon On BBC news ?
« Reply #14 on: November 18, 2011, 10:11:37 pm »
hard work lol  the deal was glass frames cills external doors incl garage door, normal price £24  for grupon custys £8, i get £4 now i know i am having to work a bit harder first time, but after that, the repeat business is mine, and it is paying of, no canvassing or door knocking, or fliers, no outlay,  your guaranteed the custys,

As I've mentioned elsewhere, the question is not whether you can get customers via Groupon but whether it's the best use of your money.  So, taking the post above and looking at your gaining 27 customers from 98 taking the deal.

You've done 98 cleans.  Now my first cleans working alone take about an hour if they are anything but tiny, so if I was wanting to value my time at, say, £12 an hour (and I value it a LOT higher than that) then that would be £1200 as near as dammit.

Well in my world, including solus delivery, a very high quality leaflet costs just under 8p.  Let's round it up to the full 8p.  So, I could send out 15,000 leaflets.  At my normal conversion rate of 0.43% that'd give me 64 customers.

There are some assumptions in there, but unless I've made a major error it'd be more efficient to leaflet.  It'd also be easier, as I'm not even delivering them in my method.  I've also ignored any costs you have had to pay out to service those customers along with travelling time.



You can see it's not a knee-jerk or "infantile" reaction to this, just a genuine doubt as to whether it's the cheapest way to gain new customers.  I may well have made a mistake with the maths; if I have feel free to point it out.

Vin
hi vin, there is no outlay, we can take the gamble small or large jobs, luckily mine have been standard cleans, i said i have 98 custys from groupon, but only done 27, 3 tomorrow the rest have not booked in yet, also custys via groupon direct to my site, who did not buy the groupon deal, they just wanted a w/c 19 to be exact, but as already mentioned, i will see how it goes over the next few months,

Smudger

  • Posts: 13459
Re: Groupon On BBC news ?
« Reply #15 on: November 18, 2011, 10:16:18 pm »
hard work lol  the deal was glass frames cills external doors incl garage door, normal price £24  for grupon custys £8, i get £4 now i know i am having to work a bit harder first time, but after that, the repeat business is mine, and it is paying of, no canvassing or door knocking, or fliers, no outlay,  your guaranteed the custys,

As I've mentioned elsewhere, the question is not whether you can get customers via Groupon but whether it's the best use of your money.  So, taking the post above and looking at your gaining 27 customers from 98 taking the deal.

You've done 98 cleans.  Now my first cleans working alone take about an hour if they are anything but tiny, so if I was wanting to value my time at, say, £12 an hour (and I value it a LOT higher than that) then that would be £1200 as near as dammit.

Well in my world, including solus delivery, a very high quality leaflet costs just under 8p.  Let's round it up to the full 8p.  So, I could send out 15,000 leaflets.  At my normal conversion rate of 0.43% that'd give me 64 customers.

There are some assumptions in there, but unless I've made a major error it'd be more efficient to leaflet.  It'd also be easier, as I'm not even delivering them in my method.  I've also ignored any costs you have had to pay out to service those customers along with travelling time.



You can see it's not a knee-jerk or "infantile" reaction to this, just a genuine doubt as to whether it's the cheapest way to gain new customers.  I may well have made a mistake with the maths; if I have feel free to point it out.

Vin

Your missing 1 vital point here - the outlay to groupon is zero £££ - to do it your way means shelling out cash - something
that may not be available to everyone - therefore groupon appeals and may work
we were very close to doing a gutter clean promo - but after number crunching ruled it out

i do hope ( for the sake of others and the general 'community' of w/c's) that jo and kev do update us say in march as to how
groupon has affected/benefitted there biz

Darran
Never argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience

Smudger

  • Posts: 13459
Re: Groupon On BBC news ?
« Reply #16 on: November 18, 2011, 10:17:49 pm »
must type/think quicker.............
Never argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience

stuart mc

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Re: Groupon On BBC news ?
« Reply #17 on: November 18, 2011, 10:23:15 pm »
must type/think quicker.............
;D

Dave Willis

Re: Groupon On BBC news ?
« Reply #18 on: November 18, 2011, 10:36:23 pm »
Sorry but I still don't get it. Jo could put out 10,000 leaflets paid for by his security job and sit on his arse or sleep all night. At the moment he's working his nuts off to gain customers at what £5 an hour? No guarantee they will stay on the books either.
He could pick up new work by conventional means and charge full price at least for the first clean possibly 50% more.

AshWhite

  • Posts: 3427
Re: Groupon On BBC news ?
« Reply #19 on: November 18, 2011, 10:39:18 pm »
There is a cost to Groupon, if you look into it even though they are a huge company with a massive valuation, they have yet to turn a profit!

As for the original story, it was muffin to do with Groupon :)










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