[The Great One]

Hi

Just been to see a nursing home 5 bedroom, lounge and hallway.

I am going to break it down into lounge & hallway in the evening and then the bedroom next day so the residents can come out into lounge while i clean their room.

Lots of staining in the lounge, food, drink spills etc.

Room, lots of dark stains by the bed, possible urine.

I am hoping to HWE the lounge & Hall in the evening and EnviroDri the room to limit down time.

For those of you that have down Nursing homes what's you usual MO and any recommendations

Martin

[markpowell]

Make sure you use a decent sanitizer mate,
Mark

[Paul H]

yip sanitizer... and make sure the residents are locked up... cos they wander all over the place .... watch they dont trip over your hose!... even doing the corridors they will come out their rooms nosing!....

[mark joyce]

powerburst extract with nutrasoft,  nurtasoft has a sanitiser in it along with a deoderiser

make sure you have a cosh sheet for chemicals and a good safety policy and loads of time as it will take twice as long as you think with all the residents getting in the way

[The Great One]

Hi

Thanks for the info.

Lounge & hallway will be done in the evening when they are put back into their room.

The room will be empty as they will go into the lounge for a couple of hours (he says  )

Was thinking of going microsan and ultrapac as a prespray

Martin

[garry22]

Check the TV listings for any major storylines in soaps!

We scheduled a clean to take place when Little Mo was on trial for murder in Eastenders (the one when the verdict was announced. You'd have thought I'd done the murder, judging by the reaction.

There was nearly a full blown riot when they tried to clear the TV room.

One old lady refused to budge. It took four care staff (one on each chair leg) to lift her and the chair out of the room   

[clinton]

As mark said in his post martin use sanitiser..also make sure you clean your waste tank out and hoses and tools wand etc after too..

[Jim_77]

In my experience of nursing homes, you've probably got your planned techniques the wrong way round Martin.

You'll need to extract the bedrooms, they're normally the cess pits  

Lounges & hallways will generally just be foot fall, food & drink type of soiling etc.  Only exception is when an incontinent resident uses the lounge, in which case they normally sit in the same chair in the same place so might need a localised extract/sanitising/deodorising which shouldn't present any problems in terms of down time.

Doing it that way you could do it all in one visit, get the hall and lounges done and dried, ship the residents out and then crack on weith the real tasty bit

Have fun

P.S. I would purchase a completely new brand of deodoriser and only ever use that for care homes.  Once you've used it on pensioner pee you link the two smells together, then next time you spray soem in another custoemr's house you get paranoid you're spraying old peoples wee around the carpet because that's what your brain is telling you it smells like.

Bizarre concept, this effect doesn't happen to me with any other odour issue like dog pee or vomit.  Only nursing homes

[Carpet Dawg]

Does anyone recommend a good strong deodoriser?

I've also got a care home coming up soon. Going to spray each room with NI-712 once cleaned but also want to put something smelly in the rinse.

thanks
tony

[markpowell]

Put a sanitizer in the tank, i still rinse with Clensan how it used to be used in the olden days, just mix it in the tank with ff rinse.
I know now the instructions have changed but i still use this way without any probs
Mark

[mark joyce]

I put sanitiser in with the powerburst and run it through the rotary when its a stinker then extract but make sure you have defoamer in the tank as it can get a bit frothy 

[wynne jones]

In my experience of nursing homes, you've probably got your planned techniques the wrong way round Martin.

You'll need to extract the bedrooms, they're normally the cess pits  

Lounges & hallways will generally just be foot fall, food & drink type of soiling etc.  Only exception is when an incontinent resident uses the lounge, in which case they normally sit in the same chair in the same place so might need a localised extract/sanitising/deodorising which shouldn't present any problems in terms of down time.

Doing it that way you could do it all in one visit, get the hall and lounges done and dried, ship the residents out and then crack on weith the real tasty bit

Have fun

P.S. I would purchase a completely new brand of deodoriser and only ever use that for care homes.  Once you've used it on pensioner pee you link the two smells together, then next time you spray soem in another custoemr's house you get paranoid you're spraying old peoples wee around the carpet because that's what your brain is telling you it smells like.

Bizarre concept, this effect doesn't happen to me with any other odour issue like dog pee or vomit.  Only nursing homes

Go along with everything Jim says here, the bedrooms need to HWE more than anything.

This pairing of smells is bloody annoying and have had to change a product myself because I think it smells of p1ss. You can overcome this by pairing it with another nice smell. ie sniff one then the other over and over allegedly.

[Jamie Pearson]

We usually prespray with Chemspec Kill Odor Plus as it is a deodoriser and a traffic lane cleaner. Extract with Liquid High Heat as its an acid side cleaner (not rinse). Urine Contamination Treatment on any know areas. Quick bonnet at the end (both pre-spray and Lqd HH are encapsulants) job done no reactivation of any contamination that isnt rinsed out that could be reactivated with moisture from the clean.

[Paul Heath]

We use Neutra-Soft® as its an all-in-one carpet extraction cleaner, urine neutraliser, deodoriser and rinse agent, with powerburst where needed.
Seems to work, but like Jim said gear needs a good rinse after

[The Great One]

Ah, forgot to mention that the cleaners there have been using urine remover, neat.

[Steve. Taylor]

I find as jim has said in the bedrooms can be bad when they change the cafiter bags

Bin liner over the windows to black out then a uv blacklight to spot the wee wee. often use a water claw on these jobs, and a ink toner syringe to get the chemicals in deep.

Time spent on the job is better than a call back unpaid

[The Great One]

What i'm worried about using HWE in the rooms is re-activating the urine?

Martin

[Jim_77]

If you treat it appropriately and flush it out well there won't be a problem left behind.  You're more likely to get a problem if you just dampen it slightly without fully dealing with the problem.

[Stevieoneill]

During your survey's, I recommend carefully inspecting the walls, bed frame, radiators, chests of drawers, wardrobes and any furniture in the rooms for urine splashes etc., and ask for them to be properly cleaned prior to your own cleaning.  I have found that many times (especially in dimentia wards) that patients can urinate anywhere and everywhere, and stale urine in places other than the carpet may cause confusion if there are still strong odours after your clean.

I tend to spot with chemspec UCT, then pre spray with enzall and extract with liquid high heat, then bonnet mop.

I then go home and scrub myself in the shower for around 3 hours using my wife's exfoliating gloves - vosene for my hair & imperial leather foamburst (limited edition hawaiin spa) for the body.  Hope this helps.

[Jim_77]

Certainly does, I'll get some of that Hawaiian stuff!!!!