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dazmond

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anyone got a diesel hot water system?
« on: November 01, 2011, 07:43:50 pm »
im thinking when i get another van next year ill get a pure freedom isothermal heater installed through the fuel tank.i dont want to be messing about with gas bottles and vents.

i know their pricey but has any of you guys got one?

if it really does speed up cleans and helps in winter then i think itll pay for itself in a couple of years.

this year ill be sticking with my cold system for now.


many thanks


dazmond
price higher/work harder!

dazmond

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Re: anyone got a diesel hot water system?
« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2011, 07:53:27 pm »
£2,800 all in professionally fitted inclu VAT. :o :o 8) 8)
price higher/work harder!

PureClean Window Cleaning Ltd

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Re: anyone got a diesel hot water system?
« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2011, 07:57:36 pm »
whats wrong with gas? £200 compared to nearly £3k, you have got to be nuts to go with that price!

ive had my fogwash a year now, and can highly recommend it, i used it today to remove egg, was really helpful!

[GQC] Tim

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Re: anyone got a diesel hot water system?
« Reply #3 on: November 01, 2011, 07:58:03 pm »
I'm confused. What's the messing about with gas bottles and vents?

Never understood why on earth anyone would want to spend thousands on a system that basically does the same, and arguably better.

Maybe go out with someone who's got a Fogwash first?

steven ainger

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Re: anyone got a diesel hot water system?
« Reply #4 on: November 01, 2011, 08:11:30 pm »
Ive used hot for over 3 yrs ( gas )
I use it on all jobs all year round, wouldmt be without it.
But would i pay mearly 3 grand for the privelage, now way.
The gas heaters do everything the diesel ones do, heat water.


james stanley

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Re: anyone got a diesel hot water system?
« Reply #5 on: November 01, 2011, 08:49:15 pm »
I have the purefreedom 9kw hot isothermal diesel heater with a frost stat fitted and it is the best hot system out there believe me!!!! Gas is a cheap and effective way to do it though if your on a tight budget. For me though I am glad I went with pure freedom and it is very cheap on the diesel usage. If your after a professional job then go for pure freedoms . The gas ones are good but do they come with a frost stat, what happens if your gas canister runs out on a cold day?!? see sense and go for purefreedom , you won't regret it!!!!! ;D

Dave66

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Re: anyone got a diesel hot water system?
« Reply #6 on: November 01, 2011, 09:23:30 pm »
here here....get to grimsby now!!  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
plenty of cream...plenty of sugar!

A@R WINDOWCLEANING

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Re: anyone got a diesel hot water system?
« Reply #7 on: November 01, 2011, 09:32:29 pm »
I HAVE A HEATWAVE PLUMBED IN TO MY FUEL TANK WOULD NOT BE WITHOUT IT  ,FROST STAT IS A GODSEND ALL I DO IS PUT IT ON AT NIGHT AND FORGET ABOUT IT ,COME OUT IN MORNING TO NICE WARM FROST FREE HOSES HAPPY DAYS  ;) ;)

steven ainger

  • Posts: 1953
Re: anyone got a diesel hot water system?
« Reply #8 on: November 01, 2011, 09:35:11 pm »
Do these deisel heaters have to have yearly service ??

[GQC] Tim

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Re: anyone got a diesel hot water system?
« Reply #9 on: November 01, 2011, 10:22:45 pm »
I have the purefreedom 9kw hot isothermal diesel heater with a frost stat fitted and it is the best hot system out there believe me!!!! Gas is a cheap and effective way to do it though if your on a tight budget. For me though I am glad I went with pure freedom and it is very cheap on the diesel usage. If your after a professional job then go for pure freedoms . The gas ones are good but do they come with a frost stat, what happens if your gas canister runs out on a cold day?!? see sense and go for purefreedom , you won't regret it!!!!! ;D

You seem pleased with your setup, but gas is cheaper. If I run out on Diesel I need to visit the petrol station, same with lpg, no problem there? Especially with my safefill I can see how much lpg I have got left, because it's refillable I can refill it even when 70% full. Most refillable lpg tanks have got some sort of gauge on it. No getting caught out.
Frost stat can be fitted as well. Can you name one advantage of a Diesel heater over a gas heater? As far as I know gas heats the water up faster as well, I get incredibly scalding hot water so quickly. Fogwash is 12Kw if I remember. I can't think of a reason to spend that much more and to get the same or less in value. What's the point in that?

In fact, no supplier I know has ever taken the time to list the benefits of Diesel over Gas. I'm serious, I want to know why a supplier wants me to spend thousands more on a system. Come on Brodex, come on Purefreedom or whoever, give me the advantages.


PureClean Window Cleaning Ltd

  • Posts: 254
Re: anyone got a diesel hot water system?
« Reply #10 on: November 01, 2011, 10:30:11 pm »
at least we can have another argument instead of wfp vs trad - diesel vs gas  ;D

[GQC] Tim

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Re: anyone got a diesel hot water system?
« Reply #11 on: November 01, 2011, 10:31:24 pm »
at least we can have another argument instead of wfp vs trad - diesel vs gas  ;D

Yep, there will always be this vs. that.  ;D

dazmond

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Re: anyone got a diesel hot water system?
« Reply #12 on: November 01, 2011, 11:51:20 pm »
yeh it is pricey. i would like to see a fogwash in action.are they easy to install yourself?where do you get the gas from?
price higher/work harder!

Nathanael Jones

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Re: anyone got a diesel hot water system?
« Reply #13 on: November 02, 2011, 08:02:58 am »
In my opinion, a properly installed gas heater is no more dangerous than a properly installed diesel heater. The issue is that so many people with limited DIY skills try to install gas heaters where they simply wouldn't take a chance on a diesel one!

Diesel heaters also need a vent/exhaust,.. it just goes out through the floor instead of the roof.
Diesel heaters use a lot of battery power, so the running out of gas issue mentioned above could be compared to batteries going flat,.. it can be planned for & avoided.

The diesel heaters look good,.. but I'd rather have that extra £2500 in my pocket to be honest.

I'm working on a flow controller with integrated frost stat (That will work with gas heaters) at the moment,..

I'll post details as soon as its ready.  ;)

[GQC] Tim

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Re: anyone got a diesel hot water system?
« Reply #14 on: November 02, 2011, 09:39:34 am »
yeh it is pricey. i would like to see a fogwash in action.are they easy to install yourself?where do you get the gas from?

Scroll down for parts list :

http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=132874.0

Easy to install if you know how to bolt and tighten screws/bolts. It's so simple a 10 year old could do it.
Fogwash in operation is this. Flow starts, ignitor fires, flames heat water, water comes out hot. You turn the flow off, the hotwash stops. Simple.

You need a refillable lpg tank, and you can fill them up anywhere that sells lpg.

Nathanael Jones

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Re: anyone got a diesel hot water system?
« Reply #15 on: November 02, 2011, 02:34:35 pm »
I fitted a fogwash yesterday to replace my old gas heater,.. honestly it took less than 5 mins, couldn't be easier.  ;D

dave.e

Re: anyone got a diesel hot water system?
« Reply #16 on: November 02, 2011, 04:30:42 pm »
I fitted a fogwash yesterday to replace my old gas heater,.. honestly it took less than 5 mins, couldn't be easier.  ;D


Hi nat do you by any chance use a inline thermostatic controller on your hot wash because i put mine in the week end and had no end of problems cheers dave

Dave Willis

Re: anyone got a diesel hot water system?
« Reply #17 on: November 02, 2011, 04:33:12 pm »
I have a Fogwash but don't need to use it very often. I've seen the Pure Freedom up close and it's brilliant. However the cost is too high for me to warrant buying one. If you are sure you'll use one everyday then get it but otherwise take the cheap option.

david washbrook

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Re: anyone got a diesel hot water system?
« Reply #18 on: November 02, 2011, 05:29:47 pm »
i have the pf hot system and i think its fantastic use it all the time carnt comment on other hot systems as this is the only one i have used.

i wanted a professional looking system and great back up service thats why i choose purefreedom and also i wanted the best that i could afford at the time.

only my opinion

PureClean Window Cleaning Ltd

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Re: anyone got a diesel hot water system?
« Reply #19 on: November 02, 2011, 05:37:09 pm »
heres a pic of mine with a £10 vent i fitted today,