Hot or Cold

« **Reply #20 on:** November 01, 2011, 10:43:15 pm »

Hi Guys

I know I've said this lots of times before but there are a lot of scientific reasons why hot works better, it's not opinion it's science.

Cheers

doug

« **Reply #21 on:** November 01, 2011, 11:03:30 pm »

Hot for me, hotter the better in most cases just makes the job quicker and easier...

I remember though years ago when using a porty in rentals with cold water you can also do a great job. Longer dwell time was needed though.

All the best,
Jason.

« **Reply #22 on:** November 01, 2011, 11:20:11 pm »

Colin
If you are serious about carpet cleaning you cannot afford to be without a truckmount.
Like your past beliefs in cold water. The only people that say an electric machine can have the power of a truckmount are the people that sell them. Experience has shown me differently. There are opinions and there are facts.........
I have several steam generators and even if the truckmount cant get rid of some marks, then very often the heat from them will. What do you call hot?

?? Obviously there are stains that can be set with heat but then it is down the oxidising road...
Peter
www.carpetcleanercardiff.com

« **Reply #23 on:** November 03, 2011, 10:21:19 pm »

To my consideration...it was a crazy day and reading your post just made me laugh...thanks.

« **Reply #24 on:** November 03, 2011, 10:35:05 pm »

Can you do this without agitating?

Did this house today, 5 bedrooms, Through Lounge, HSL, all this F'd!
Powerburst, citra boost and piping hot water. 3 hours

Excuse amateur copyright text, I'm on my little netbook

« **Reply #25 on:** November 03, 2011, 10:47:57 pm »

Quote from: peter maybury on November 01, 2011, 11:20:11 pm

If you are serious about carpet cleaning you cannot afford to be without a truckmount.

Now you've gone and spoilt it again......disgree with you totally.
A TM might make it easier, just because you don't have one doesn't mean you can't do the job.

« **Reply #26 on:** November 04, 2011, 05:23:58 am »

Most washing powders will now clean at 40 degrees, so the adverts say, but when you wash your clothes how do you kill the bacteria??? apparently you need 60 degrees+ to do this

so more than 60 degrees = clean and healthy
less than 60 degrees = bacterial growth... right?

Dave

« **Reply #27 on:** November 04, 2011, 07:55:29 am »

Quote from: Warren A on November 03, 2011, 10:35:05 pm

Can you do this without agitating?

Did this house today, 5 bedrooms, Through Lounge, HSL, all this F'd!
Powerburst, citra boost and piping hot water. 3 hours

Excuse amateur copyright text, I'm on my little netbook

I don't agitate waffle carpets either, but like you, I don't need too... Hot hot hot rules....

« **Reply #28 on:** November 04, 2011, 08:36:43 am »

My Mates been going a couple of months now had no training other than my vast knowledge lol

he has a numatic dt910 and these are the comments he is getting and repeat work

Chelle m Colin has been & cleaned every carpet in our house & can honestly say they've never looked as good!!! Very good rates & highly reccomended! X

Nikki k Did a fantastic job of our carpets ,they were dry really quickly and looked great !!! and at at brilliant price ,thanks

Lisa Marie Worked wonders on mine

lisa g had my carpet cleaned today thanks to Colin Phillips

done an absolutely fantastic job so if any one is looking for a carpet cleaner or your sofa cleaned please contact him (barnsley area - cheap rates) Thanks

Anna B
would definitely recommend Colin Phillips carpet cleaner loving mi clean carpet thank u very much colin x

all with warm water um and powerburst and acid rinse and my guidance thats all that matters
get over yourselves tm s

Neil

« **Reply #29 on:** November 04, 2011, 08:37:03 am »

Morning Colin I am a hot man myself and think its easier to explain to the customer as the washing up example explains.It also provides a great visual to the customer when you are doing their lounge and the steam catches the cold air from outside as they look at what your wand is doing(priceless demo in my opinion)....................Alan

« **Reply #30 on:** November 04, 2011, 08:40:02 am »

The Cleaning Pie:
25% heat
25% time
25% chemical
25% agitation If you lose One of these you supposedly can make it up by increasing another slice to compensate......as far as I'm concerned a balance of all 4 is the ideal....so yes heat is important...........unless of course I was a supplier who didn't market an extraction machine with any method of Heating Water of course ;-)

« **Reply #31 on:** November 04, 2011, 10:42:01 am »

If i have a particularly trashed carpet i get the inline heater out, i had one the other day that was also covered in black chewing gum and blue tack i though that i would have to get on my hands and knees after with the solvent, but the magma turned up high and hot water in the tank blew it away, no way would cold water do that.

« **Reply #32 on:** November 04, 2011, 11:05:14 am »

I've just come back from a job where a customer had had a bit of a diarrhoea accident on a 80/20. His cleaner's have tried their best with Vanish but to no avail.

I tried a little experiment and I wish I'd taken pictures. I applied the pre-spray and just left it, I didn't agitate for experimental purposes....

I cold water rinsed it 20 minutes later and nothing happened, put the Zeta to the test and hey, not a smidgen to be seen.

« **Reply #33 on:** November 04, 2011, 11:08:08 am »

Just out of curiosity, did you apply prespray hot or cold? or was it Microsplitter?

« **Reply #34 on:** November 04, 2011, 11:09:35 am »

Quote from: AshWhite on November 04, 2011, 11:08:08 am

Just out of curiosity, did you apply prespray hot or cold? or was it Microsplitter?

Hot Micro splitter.....

« **Reply #35 on:** November 04, 2011, 11:38:09 am »

It's great to have an open mind and be prepared to experiment as Colin Day has been doing, rather than just buy into what APPEARS to be the most likely solution..............as in massive power and extremely high heat.

With developments in portables and choices in chemicals beyond recognition over the past few years I expect there will be less need for T/M machines as portables with increased power and the option of added heat and the greater flexibility they offer and the ability to use much smaller vans present a far more attractive package for 99% of carpet cleaners.

I suggest the 99% of carpet cleaners who don't use a T/M should ignore the posts from the few who insist you're not a professional unless you use a T/M and leave them to get on with their little pedantic club.

I'm only referring to a small number of T/M owners who reckon they're incomparable.

The Spartans were in that position once..............................and they were wrong.

« **Reply #36 on:** November 04, 2011, 09:26:30 pm »

does hot pre spray really make much diff . i dont think it does tbh

« **Reply #37 on:** November 04, 2011, 09:39:56 pm »

The amusing thing is Richard, there are regular posts on here endorsing hot prespray but you will also find several posts telling you that it's a pointless exercise as the fluid is nearly cold when it hits the carpet.

« **Reply #38 on:** November 04, 2011, 09:44:12 pm »

Yes but as the pre-spray hits the carpet its hot or warm so has a few seconds to break down dirt before it becomes cold, I'm not sure if this has any difference to breakdown time but I think it does.

In my opinion hot pre-spray works faster, cold still works but requires a longer dwell.

All the best,
Jason.

« **Reply #39 on:** November 04, 2011, 09:56:45 pm »

When pads or bonnet mitts are used straight from a tank or bucket and hold the heat for a few minutes the difference is definitely noticable.

Poll

When rinse extracting, what do you think works best?