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mikecam

Re: Website picture and no licence!
« Reply #20 on: October 16, 2011, 09:34:06 pm »
I put my website together myself and purchaced pictures from Fotolia.
However I overlooked one of the pictures I used when I set it up. This was a picture downloaded from the web and placed on my site. I intended to replace with a Fotolia picture, but didn't really want the page.   

The page has not been linked to my main site for years and I should have deleted the page altogether. I forgot.

I am now in reciept of a bill from Getty Images for unlicened use of a picture thay have the rights to.

That bill is for £968.00  :o

Lesson. Unless you know where the pictures come from dont use them as they may find and fine you.

Sureley if its an unlinked page then you are only guilty of copying and hosting it and not 'using' it as such. I'd be tempted to tell them the same and tell the to shove their bill as you aint using it and don't want to use it.

Window Washers

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Re: Website picture and no licence!
« Reply #21 on: October 16, 2011, 10:13:30 pm »
I put my website together myself and purchaced pictures from Fotolia.
However I overlooked one of the pictures I used when I set it up. This was a picture downloaded from the web and placed on my site. I intended to replace with a Fotolia picture, but didn't really want the page.   

The page has not been linked to my main site for years and I should have deleted the page altogether. I forgot.

I am now in reciept of a bill from Getty Images for unlicened use of a picture thay have the rights to.

That bill is for £968.00  :o

Lesson. Unless you know where the pictures come from dont use them as they may find and fine you.

Sureley if its an unlinked page then you are only guilty of copying and hosting it and not 'using' it as such. I'd be tempted to tell them the same and tell the to shove their bill as you aint using it and don't want to use it.
Lol mike, they just take you to court it is theft, if you host it it is online, if you go and look at their massive t&c's you will be able to read you cannot do this, they have it covered
If your not willing to learn, No one can help you, If you are determined to learn, No one can stop you ;)

sunshine windows

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Re: Website picture and no licence!
« Reply #22 on: October 16, 2011, 10:20:51 pm »
Sunshine Cleaning, I will also be pursuing a claim for compensation from you for identity theft. Had no idea that your name was Lance as well. Now that's just too bloody freaky for words.  :o ;D
To climb mount fuji you must first find a path
(Swindon, Wiltshire)

www.sunshinewindowcleaning.co.uk
www.sunshinesoftwashing.co.uk

Re: Website picture and no licence!
« Reply #23 on: October 16, 2011, 10:23:43 pm »
Sunshine Cleaning, I will also be pursuing a claim for compensation from you for identity theft. Had no idea that your name was Lance as well. Now that's just too bloody freaky for words.  :o ;D

Join the queue Lance.  ;D

Re: Website picture and no licence!
« Reply #24 on: October 16, 2011, 10:25:17 pm »
Sunshine Cleaning, I will also be pursuing a claim for compensation from you for identity theft. Had no idea that your name was Lance as well. Now that's just too bloody freaky for words.  :o ;D

It's only window washers that calls me Lance, everyone else calls me Stuart.

sunshine windows

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Re: Website picture and no licence!
« Reply #25 on: October 16, 2011, 10:25:31 pm »
Just re-read Ians's post on websites and now it all makes sense.

I'll let you off with the copycat company name then Stuart  ;D

Back to the original point of the post, nearly 1k for ripping off a fees pics for a cleaning website does seem a bit pricy
To climb mount fuji you must first find a path
(Swindon, Wiltshire)

www.sunshinewindowcleaning.co.uk
www.sunshinesoftwashing.co.uk

niceandclean

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Re: Website picture and no licence!
« Reply #26 on: October 16, 2011, 10:36:23 pm »
About 3 years ago i got a letter from Getty asking for £1800 for the use of one of their pictures, it was a telephone. After a few letters here and there, they settled at £400, so dispute it! My solictor told me what to do, she said you will have to pay something, but they would rather settle for a lesser amount than take you to court!

mikecam

Re: Website picture and no licence!
« Reply #27 on: October 16, 2011, 10:44:47 pm »
I put my website together myself and purchaced pictures from Fotolia.
However I overlooked one of the pictures I used when I set it up. This was a picture downloaded from the web and placed on my site. I intended to replace with a Fotolia picture, but didn't really want the page.   

The page has not been linked to my main site for years and I should have deleted the page altogether. I forgot.

I am now in reciept of a bill from Getty Images for unlicened use of a picture thay have the rights to.

That bill is for £968.00  :o

Lesson. Unless you know where the pictures come from dont use them as they may find and fine you.

Sureley if its an unlinked page then you are only guilty of copying and hosting it and not 'using' it as such. I'd be tempted to tell them the same and tell the to shove their bill as you aint using it and don't want to use it.
Lol mike, they just take you to court it is theft, if you host it it is online, if you go and look at their massive t&c's you will be able to read you cannot do this, they have it covered

Hang on a minute. Its not so straightforeward. Anyone at all who browses the internet page where he 'copied' ift from, will have a copy of the same image on their computer, it'll probably be in their temporary internet files.S o loads of people will have copied it already, albeit unwittingley. His 'crime' is using it. If he shows its on an unlinked, forgotton about webpage thats not publicised or promoted them i'm sure that £900 bill will realistically be £9, i'd tell them to shove it and so should he. What damages are they likeley to get from him given its use? All the terms and conditions i the world won't make you pay nearly a grand for that, they're trying to frighten him. He should tell then to get stuffed. They should also make him aware that he is using copyright material BTW and give him the chance to desist. Looks like they never done that, they hope he'll pay the bill. Infact they bank on it !!!
 Best cause of action is to remove offending image and ignore them and their requests for money.

niceandclean

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Re: Website picture and no licence!
« Reply #28 on: October 16, 2011, 10:51:38 pm »
They send out a scan of your website with the date and time it was scanned, a bit like a speed camera photo. I was told that you will not get away with not paying something, and they have taken people to court over their images and they always win. Its best to say sorry, and negotiate.

Window Washers

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Re: Website picture and no licence!
« Reply #29 on: October 17, 2011, 06:38:51 pm »
They send out a scan of your website with the date and time it was scanned, a bit like a speed camera photo. I was told that you will not get away with not paying something, and they have taken people to court over their images and they always win. Its best to say sorry, and negotiate.
exactly the worst thing to do is tell them to stick it, or ignore them, they do not just forget about it. a hosted image and one stored in your browser is totally different, they protect their sellers copyright material
If your not willing to learn, No one can help you, If you are determined to learn, No one can stop you ;)

mikecam

Re: Website picture and no licence!
« Reply #30 on: October 17, 2011, 09:38:00 pm »
a hosted image and one stored in your browser is totally different, they protect their sellers copyright material

And if you upload something to photobucket/ you tube whatever then you don't get done for it. The host get asked to remove it. These picture/ video hosters would be bust now if they had to pay for every removed/copyrighted stuff !! They've a right to bring it to your attention and demand its removal.

Window Washers

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Re: Website picture and no licence!
« Reply #31 on: October 17, 2011, 09:48:35 pm »
a hosted image and one stored in your browser is totally different, they protect their sellers copyright material

And if you upload something to photobucket/ you tube whatever then you don't get done for it. The host get asked to remove it. These picture/ video hosters would be bust now if they had to pay for every removed/copyrighted stuff !! They've a right to bring it to your attention and demand its removal.
Mike instead of arguing a point, why not speak with them, you will find you are way off the mark mate, they are not stupid, nor will they except answers like hosting companies are asked to removed it etc, they go direct to source, that being the person that pays the hosting, you will need to look at the hosting companies t&c's it will say they are not liable, it is you (you being the person paying or account it is)
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If your not willing to learn, No one can help you, If you are determined to learn, No one can stop you ;)

mikecam

Re: Website picture and no licence!
« Reply #32 on: October 17, 2011, 09:57:53 pm »
a hosted image and one stored in your browser is totally different, they protect their sellers copyright material

And if you upload something to photobucket/ you tube whatever then you don't get done for it. The host get asked to remove it. These picture/ video hosters would be bust now if they had to pay for every removed/copyrighted stuff !! They've a right to bring it to your attention and demand its removal.
Mike instead of arguing a point, why not speak with them, you will find you are way off the mark mate, they are not stupid, nor will they except answers like hosting companies are asked to removed it etc, they go direct to source, that being the person that pays the hosting, you will need to look at the hosting companies t&c's it will say they are not liable, it is you (you being the person paying or account it is)
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Point me to a case where someone has been made by a court to pay £900 for using an image they where told to remove.

Window Washers

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Re: Website picture and no licence!
« Reply #33 on: October 18, 2011, 10:45:57 pm »
a hosted image and one stored in your browser is totally different, they protect their sellers copyright material

And if you upload something to photobucket/ you tube whatever then you don't get done for it. The host get asked to remove it. These picture/ video hosters would be bust now if they had to pay for every removed/copyrighted stuff !! They've a right to bring it to your attention and demand its removal.
Mike instead of arguing a point, why not speak with them, you will find you are way off the mark mate, they are not stupid, nor will they except answers like hosting companies are asked to removed it etc, they go direct to source, that being the person that pays the hosting, you will need to look at the hosting companies t&c's it will say they are not liable, it is you (you being the person paying or account it is)
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Point me to a case where someone has been made by a court to pay £900 for using an image they where told to remove.
go here: google.com AND DO A SEARCH  ;D
If your not willing to learn, No one can help you, If you are determined to learn, No one can stop you ;)

Dave Mills

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Re: Website picture and no licence!
« Reply #34 on: October 18, 2011, 10:54:54 pm »
Point me to a case where someone has been made by a court to pay £900 for using an image they where told to remove.

http://www.out-law.com/page-10367

Paul Coleman

Re: Website picture and no licence!
« Reply #35 on: October 18, 2011, 10:55:20 pm »
Sunshine Cleaning, I will also be pursuing a claim for compensation from you for identity theft. Had no idea that your name was Lance as well. Now that's just too bloody freaky for words.  :o ;D

Just pray that his surname isn't Boyle.

Paul Coleman

Re: Website picture and no licence!
« Reply #36 on: October 18, 2011, 10:59:38 pm »
a hosted image and one stored in your browser is totally different, they protect their sellers copyright material

And if you upload something to photobucket/ you tube whatever then you don't get done for it. The host get asked to remove it. These picture/ video hosters would be bust now if they had to pay for every removed/copyrighted stuff !! They've a right to bring it to your attention and demand its removal.

Photobucket isn't public domain technically though.  The files on there are password protected - so presumably Getty's spiders can't access those pages.

Window Washers

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Re: Website picture and no licence!
« Reply #37 on: October 18, 2011, 11:04:51 pm »
a hosted image and one stored in your browser is totally different, they protect their sellers copyright material

And if you upload something to photobucket/ you tube whatever then you don't get done for it. The host get asked to remove it. These picture/ video hosters would be bust now if they had to pay for every removed/copyrighted stuff !! They've a right to bring it to your attention and demand its removal.

Photobucket isn't public domain technically though.  The files on there are password protected - so presumably Getty's spiders can't access those pages.
spiders can't but if they asked to crawl the site I am sure they would be allowed
If your not willing to learn, No one can help you, If you are determined to learn, No one can stop you ;)

mikecam

Re: Website picture and no licence!
« Reply #38 on: October 18, 2011, 11:07:57 pm »
Point me to a case where someone has been made by a court to pay £900 for using an image they where told to remove.

http://www.out-law.com/page-10367
Hey !! You're only right. To be fair, if you check it out properley the out law website that produced the report is gettys solicitors, and they don't mention that the case was awarded by default. I.e the defendant never turned up and contested it.  You'll find many more on google that have not paid the demands by getty, nor have they gone to court.

mikecam

Re: Website picture and no licence!
« Reply #39 on: October 18, 2011, 11:11:25 pm »

Photobucket isn't public domain technically though. 

Neither would the OP's unlinked storage page be?