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H2GoKent

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Fishing poles
« on: October 13, 2011, 10:59:09 am »
Some time ago Tosh did a 'challenge' based on a composite fishing pole.
I use a fishing pole for my shops and tall buildings.

Someone on here used expanding foam filler to fill up the inside of the pole or something, wondered if that worked alright or not.
Did it help? was it too heavy?
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Spruce

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Re: Fishing poles
« Reply #1 on: October 13, 2011, 03:01:30 pm »
I used my fishing pole for several years when Tosh organised this challenge. I never found the neccessity to 'reinforce' the tubes with expanding foam filler. But my understanding was that some had used the filler to reinforce the ends - its wasn't for the hole inside of the pole.

As you appear to be working at much higher heights than I used it for, possibily the best person to 'chat' to would be Jeff Brimble as he knows the fishing pole situation intimately.

If you do a search on this forum, I think there was a discussion on how to get higher and what you would need.

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H2GoKent

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Re: Fishing poles
« Reply #2 on: October 13, 2011, 05:29:01 pm »
Cheers for that
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windowswashed

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Re: Fishing poles
« Reply #3 on: October 13, 2011, 06:50:52 pm »
Bought an 8metre carp fishing pole for £20 yesterday-bargain! :)
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Jeff Brimble

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Re: Fishing poles
« Reply #4 on: October 13, 2011, 08:28:24 pm »
There are new lighter poles with thinner walls, the foam can help with the upper sectionsBut its really messy, but its better to reuse older thicker poles approx 1999 approx, £20 good buy ! I use Ron thompson Gangster 11m cut down gives you 29ft useable.Its a tuffy.
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H2GoKent

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Re: Fishing poles
« Reply #5 on: October 13, 2011, 09:40:14 pm »
Cheers for your post Jeff, hoped you would. I think Ive got an idea how to do the foam from previous posts.
When you say older poles do you mean older style poles or are there some second hand ones about?
Actually I've just re read your post I guess you mean the gangster
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Jeff Brimble

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Re: Fishing poles
« Reply #6 on: October 13, 2011, 09:54:28 pm »
Older style are thicker, not as stiff but light enough. Car boots are good and some fishing suppliers shops have s/h ones. What height do you want to reach ?

Got to go, to start use the Gangster- good for 3 floors, higher go for an old  s/h 12.5m or 13.5m dont pay big money if you can find s/h, should get one for £50 if your lucky.

Gd luck.
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H2GoKent

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Re: Fishing poles
« Reply #7 on: October 13, 2011, 10:00:41 pm »
I do lots of work at about 40/45 feet and have a 16m pole for that.
Have bought an MAP M16 along with 3 extra butt sections as I have an even taller building I do at present with my 55 foot tucker (very very heavy) got these from cheshire fishing very helpful.

I use a Ron Thompson 8 mtr for the tops and then the lower sections of a 16mtr pole, so I have tough top and tough bottom, my problem is that at about what would be section 8 or 9 I have the thin type.
I will have a look around for older style poles as well always good to have spares.
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Jeff Brimble

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Re: Fishing poles
« Reply #8 on: October 13, 2011, 10:07:38 pm »
In a nutshell, no answer, for the couple of sections before the extensions, just take care and bridge your hands. or save up for a Gardiner which maybe stronger, but they are all susceptable to breakages. I still have my original F16 and prefer it to the M16 as its not so mettallic. Oh you can mix and match any make of pole. So look on ebay etc.
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H2GoKent

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Re: Fishing poles
« Reply #9 on: October 13, 2011, 10:16:17 pm »
Cheers Jeff, very helpful.
I plan to tape a bag over the male end of a pole section I have spare and using a thin piece of plastic pipe fill up the section with foam.
I did something similar to fill an inaccessible hole under a cupboard when we had mice coming in. 3 foot length of old RO pipe on the end of the foam can, worked a treat.
I'll test on the spare and see how it goes.

Thanks again
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Jeff Brimble

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Re: Fishing poles
« Reply #10 on: October 14, 2011, 06:08:52 am »
Neat, put an airhole in the bag, you will also find if you try to do the whole pole in one go that the foam in the middle section wont go off because it "self seals" do it in 2-3 sections to allow air to allow it to set.
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L.Doubtfire - The Blade Runner

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Re: Fishing poles
« Reply #11 on: October 14, 2011, 06:34:11 am »
Every word Jeff `B`has written is true.Ya need second hand from
Around 20 years ago.The modern poles for us fella`s are a waste of
Money in my opinion.
I`ve a Diawa ,takes me to 42 to 43 feet extended,been repaired,got it
From my local fishing pole supplier,,,,,,,tough as old boots,but still
So lightweighttttttttttttttttttt. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


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Jeff Brimble

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Re: Fishing poles
« Reply #12 on: October 14, 2011, 06:56:56 am »
You will also need a tight fitting butt plug which you may be able to make using the tip of the next lower section and wrapping double thickness thin cling film round, also protect the tip end with pcv tape stuck on lengthways so that the foam dont stick to it or your going to have to sand it off after, think of having a Bin bag to place over the shopping bag if it all goes pear shaped. Work in 2-3ft sections and allow to dry. The foam you use wont go off in a void - it wont ! ever! but there is a foam available from a co. onj the E caost that will. I will try to find a link for a lengthways wrap that the Manuf use to strengthen the fishing poles from the outside. Maybe look at Daiwa/Maver for the number 8-9 sections instead. On day the fishing pole people will re tap into our market and give us the "Old style"and cheaper poles back again, they have more glass in them.
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Jeff Brimble

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Re: Fishing poles
« Reply #13 on: October 14, 2011, 07:04:47 am »
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H2GoKent

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Re: Fishing poles
« Reply #14 on: October 14, 2011, 01:40:19 pm »
Had an interesting chat with Gary at Cheshire fixing he said that the Ron Thompson poles are a composite pole that have less carbon in. They are actually cheaper to make but they are heavier so less popular with the fishing crowd.
Got my foam will crack on at the weekend
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Tom White

Re: Fishing poles
« Reply #15 on: October 14, 2011, 01:51:38 pm »
Quote from: Jeff Brimble on October 14, 2011, 06:56:56 am
You will also need a tight fitting butt plug

Er......,

Words fail me.

And certainly not my cup of tea.

Ouch!  :-X
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andyatkinson

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Re: Fishing poles
« Reply #16 on: October 14, 2011, 02:05:16 pm »
  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D ;D
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Jeff Brimble

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Re: Fishing poles
« Reply #17 on: October 14, 2011, 05:44:19 pm »
Quote from: Tosh on October 14, 2011, 01:51:38 pm
Quote from: Jeff Brimble on October 14, 2011, 06:56:56 am
You will also need a tight fitting butt plug

Er......,

Words fail me.

And certainly not my cup of tea.

Ouch!  :-X

Hiya Tosh, you missed this one-

Quote from: Jeff Brimble on October 14, 2011, 12:15:30 pm
Carry a spare rubber ..,  I used to have 14  ::)
[/quote

Butt it could be a plug  ;D
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Re: Fishing poles
« Reply #18 on: October 14, 2011, 11:09:10 pm »
jeff's the man on fishing poles
a man most of us cud learn off ;)
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Avo

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Re: Fishing poles
« Reply #19 on: October 15, 2011, 09:30:23 am »
Having seen this post im thinking of maybe buying a fishing pole for a big office block I've got coming up very soon!! Don't see the point in me spending out £400+ on a high spec pole as i dont have the right work for it... I went round my brothers house yesters to have a look at some 11m and 13m poles he uses for fishing and boy these things are sooo light weight and stiff but almost like egg shells.

Can they take the odd knock here and there??

So I'm I right saying you foam out each section to help support the hollow inners??
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