[Phil Taylor]

For all those that are thinking of starting out in this business and read on here you need this that and the other, then please don't waste your money. We went from a Twin vac to triple vac to Puzzi 100. In conjunction with the Puzzi we use the sebo. As long as you do good prep work then the results are the same. If something goes wrong with it you simply throw the thing away and buy a new one. It's lightwight, easy to set up within minutes, is robust and gets the job done.  

So don't waste £2 - £4k on new expensive gear when you can easily do the work for less than £700!

Looks aren't everything, people just want a clean carpet at a good price!

 

[Russ Chadd]

Damn!!! the money i have wasted! if i had read this post many years ago i could of saved myself ££££
Then again some of us on here find investing in good equipment, chemicals and training separates the the people who are just out to make a quick buck.
Yes people do want a clean carpet at a good price and most punters in the UK right now will hire the services of a carpet cleaner based purely on price.

[robert meldrum]

Sure Phil   

But then You waken up in a cold sweat and think " I'm not really going out to face the world with such a massive handicap "

Last week I did in fact do exactly what your headline says having tripped switches too often and gone down to a single vac, which decided it's vacuum wanted to retire and ended up with a Puzzi 100 which allowed me to complete a job.

What I should have done was combine the solution delivery from the Sabrina and continued to extract with the  vacs.

Even if anyone contemplated using a small machine like the Puzzi ..............they could use it with the little powerbrush which would give a better result than the Sebo.

As posted elsewhere I've used Puzzis on small jobs in the past and would still use them in emergencies but you can get a far superior machine from several suppliers from less than £500 with a lot more grunt at both ends.

[from edge2edge]

Morning guys as professionals we probably have a different idea of what a clean carpet is compared to the occupant but if most of your work is rentals where you arent looking for recommendations then if the job you do gets the occupants deposit back then yes why not just use a little inexpensive piece of kit although as robert says the sabrina maxi or similar is cheap and packs a decent punch too.............Alan

[Andrew Briscoe]

I have a 100+ room hotel to do next week, so if any one wants to buy a low mileage Sprinter and a low Hours Maxx 470, i can then buy a Puzzi and



























100 buckets to keep me going

Andrew

[Phil Taylor]

The sabrina maxi pushes out 130psi with a single 1 x 2 stage vac. The vac IMO is just not good enough to recover the amount of water you would like. Ok, the puzzi has only 1 x 2 stage BUT it only pumps out 40-60psi, BIG differnce. I've used a Sabrina and it leaves the carpets really wet!

Karcher Puzzi 100 75 years in business and still going strong! It sucks up the water and gets the job done, that's all I want!!

[Ian Gourlay]

Problem I have is this is your first topiic.

You did not explain why you went from a twin Vac to a triple vac. The Triple vac did not meet your expectations.


What were you hoping to achieve.

You have probably been in industry sometime

Filling up a smaller is a bind  its stop start stop start

I agree that there is probably not a lot of difference between puzi , rug doctor and entry level machine from leading suppliers.

[Phil Taylor]

Problem I have is this is your first topiic.

You did not explain why you went from a twin Vac to a triple vac. The Triple vac did not meet your expectations.


What were you hoping to achieve.

You have probably been in industry sometime

Filling up a smaller is a bind  its stop start stop start

I agree that there is probably not a lot of difference between puzi , rug doctor and entry level machine from leading suppliers.

We went from the large machines down to a puzzi because of the length of time it was taking us to set up (now we're up and running in 10 mins), because of the weight of these twin/triple vacs, they really aren't portable, we get alot of domestic smaller rooms (upstairs, no lift etc) and with one hand we can now take the sebo, puzzi in all together (the wand and hoses sit on the machine) and we're away.

Hoping to achieve not having to take in long hoses, bulky weighty machine, buckets, bottles, spotters, solutions etc etc in the custys house. Now we only take 2 items in. We also only use the Karcher powder which I think is ph 8.

Been in the industry for 33 years.

Filling can be a bind yes, but you get used to that. But there again when your kicking out 400 - 600 psi with a porty you're also filling up alot too?

Puzzi is far better than a rug doctor, again I've had ago at a RD, the Puzzi really 'pulls' on the carpet!!

Well, I'm a Puzzi convert at £300 a throw it's a no brainer. There is no way I would waste thousands on a new set up, I only wished I had done this years ago. The Puzzi 300 & 400 look the part but your going heavier again.

The business I do I wanna be in and out, get the job done, spray down, sebo, extract with Puzzi, turbo dry and away - simples!!

[The Great One]

Hi

Not sure if this thread is a wind up or not?

Anyway I'm hiring one for a week for £47, using my own chems (and supreb expertiseof course  ) and so far it has earn't me £300 with another £60 tomorrow and maybe some more by the weeks end. i also find with lots of dry passes that the carpet is not too damp at the end.

Martin

[john martin]

Chances are this might be windup  but if not -
Your 33 years experience is probably why you can get results from basic equipment .  I would agree that some machines  have become overweight and have unnecessary features to be fully portable , but i would draw the line at something like the light 30kg twin vac aqua 40+ ...  are you so busy that making two trips to the van for gear insted of one makes a real difference to you ? I trust you cant leave the puzzi outside and run a hose throughout the house like you might with with twin vac , so the puzzi has to be near youall the time , adding to noise and inconvience in the house . Not to mention the constant filling/emptying ...poor suction ..no heat

[Colin Day]

I've used Puzzi's in the car valet business , I must admit, they were adequate for a car seat and extracting the water from floor mats that have been pressure washed.

I run my Jaguar from the van which feeds from a 130 litre auxiliary tank and runs through a Mytee Hot for steamy hot water at the wand. Sets up in about 10-15minute including meeting the customer and exchanging pleasantry's "That's a lovely dress, Mr Johnston....!" ..

I think I'd be a fool not to sell all my equipment and buy me a Puzzi..

Thank you Philip, for making me see the light....

[Colin Day]

"The business I do I wanna be in and out, get the job done, spray down, sebo, extract with Puzzi, turbo dry and away - simples!!"

Otherwise referred to as "Splash & Dash"....

[Phil Taylor]

Chances are this might be windup  but if not -
Your 33 years experience is probably why you can get results from basic equipment .  I would agree that some machines  have become overweight and have unnecessary features to be fully portable , but i would draw the line at something like the light 30kg twin vac aqua 40+ ...  are you so busy that making two trips to the van for gear insted of one makes a real difference to you ? I trust you cant leave the puzzi outside and run a hose throughout the house like you might with with twin vac , so the puzzi has to be near youall the time , adding to noise and inconvience in the house . Not to mention the constant filling/emptying ...poor suction ..no heat

I never said I couldn't get results from basic equipment??? Far from it, we achieve excellent results. I have still got the two other machines I mentions and yes I've done all that leave them outside run the hoses in etc, but that was why we switched, the hassle of doing all that. We have 3 Puzzi in a 2man team, yes they are close by us, but that isn't an issue, the puzzi is not noisy, and it is LESS of a hassle for the customer because she don't have to worry about tripping over the hoses, buckets, ground sheet etc, our puzzi and sebo are in the same room as we're working.

[Phil Taylor]

"The business I do I wanna be in and out, get the job done, spray down, sebo, extract with Puzzi, turbo dry and away - simples!!"

Otherwise referred to as "Splash & Dash"....

No we are not that I can assure you 

[Phil Taylor]

This is the same set up (sorry about the music)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4rwAzvF2-E

and (now this guy does it how we do it but we sebo in between)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-V4qCp13T30

[Phil Taylor]

I run my Jaguar from the van which feeds from a 130 litre auxiliary tank and runs through a Mytee Hot for steamy hot water at the wand. Sets up in about 10-15minute including meeting the customer and exchanging pleasantry's "That's a lovely dress, Mr Johnston....!" ..

and it's cost you a fortune, alot of the times you cant get parked close to the property, can't use it for flats, you gotta run hose out, solutions line, 2 sets of leads to the house, extensions leads etc. By the time you've done all that I've cleaned half the room and eating me chocy biccie 

How much do you sell your ice creams for in that thing BTW?   

Na, I've done all the big machine thingy, leaving it in the van, dragging it in doors, running hoses all over the place, believe me, we are very happy doing it this way, the quick way, using a sebo and puzzi.

Of course your going to defend your new investment, why shouldn't you?? But I wouldn't have parted with a single penny especially with a machine that looks like a 1970's dust cart  sorry, just saying it how it is....

[brencarpetman]

I've used Puzzi's in the car valet business , I must admit, they were adequate for a car seat and extracting the water from floor mats that have been pressure washed.

I run my Jaguar from the van which feeds from a 130 litre auxiliary tank and runs through a Mytee Hot for steamy hot water at the wand. Sets up in about 10-15minute including meeting the customer and exchanging pleasantry's "That's a lovely dress, Mr Johnston....!" ..

I think I'd be a fool not to sell all my equipment and buy me a Puzzi..

Thank you Philip, for making me see the light....

Hi Colin I have the jag too and was wondering about which inline to get. I have the powerflite and love the hot factor from it. How do you find the mytee heat? Ive read mixed reports!!

Bren

[john martin]

Chances are this might be windup  but if not -
Your 33 years experience is probably why you can get results from basic equipment .  I would agree that some machines  have become overweight and have unnecessary features to be fully portable , but i would draw the line at something like the light 30kg twin vac aqua 40+ ...  are you so busy that making two trips to the van for gear insted of one makes a real difference to you ? I trust you cant leave the puzzi outside and run a hose throughout the house like you might with with twin vac , so the puzzi has to be near youall the time , adding to noise and inconvience in the house . Not to mention the constant filling/emptying ...poor suction ..no heat

I never said I couldn't get results from basic equipment??? Far from it, we achieve excellent results. I have still got the two other machines I mentions and yes I've done all that leave them outside run the hoses in etc, but that was why we switched, the hassle of doing all that. We have 3 Puzzi in a 2man team, yes they are close by us, but that isn't an issue, the puzzi is not noisy, and it is LESS of a hassle for the customer because she don't have to worry about tripping over the hoses, buckets, ground sheet etc, our puzzi and sebo are in the same room as we're working.

Thats not what i said ...  after 33 years im sure you'd get good results with a brush and bucket ...
chances are you have a lifetime of repeat business that dont care what your doing in there because it worked before ....  and you dont bother with the rough stuff
That is if your winding us up 
lol  at the jaguar roast ..... 

[Jim_77]

The business I do I wanna be in and out, get the job done, spray down, sebo, extract with truckmount, turbo dry and away - simples!!

Changing one word in that sentence is the difference between cleaning a carpet and getting it wet

[Colin Day]

Sorry if the look of my Jaguar offends you Phil, I wasn't sure myself about the Jag to be honest, especially when I was letting my Ferrari Red Triple Vac Alltec go... But do you know something, the auto-dump feature is especially my favourite bit, as emtying a machine is a bit of a chore. I suppose you won't need to worry to much about emptying buckets, as your Puzzi won't really suck that much dirty water back up from the carpet....

If you haven't used a Jag, you don't know what you're missing....

Bren, I love the Mytee heat, I did a filthy pub carpet yesterday and had constant heat. It is variable heat though, which is to be expected.

I'm hoping to be running a 'Zeta' soon, as the propane option seems to be taking a while....