[Steve Sed]

I can't see the point of targetting it. Apparently all the nationals are doing them for peanuts. Those people that were on Dragon's Den being a perfect example whilst I can easily make £200 a day with domestic work. Ok, round isn't full, but if I put a 9-5 in, I will easily do that and usually much more. Can someone please explain why I should be chasing commercial work when everyone on here sees it as the golden egg and is also after it?

This is a genuine question. What are you getting out of commercial work as an hourly rate? Why do you see it as the bee's wotsits?

[Pope vader]

commercial is great if you got staff to go do it and it can be done before 8 am, other than that i would rather do domestic,  i do some bamks in newquay and i have to wait till after 9 to get in   and my hourly rate drops   they are a waste of time

[D woods]

Commercial is rubbish, all other window cleaners should stick to domestic only.

[Rob_Mac]

Dave

Not on topic so I apologise but just been on the website - what have you spent £100 000 on for pressure washing?

Rob

[Steve Sed]

Commercial is rubbish, all other window cleaners should stick to domestic only.

I reckon you are being patronising. But I also reckon you might not be able to price up doestic hence you think commercial is more profitable. Tell me your hourly ratefor that work, otherwise i'm perfectly happy to stick with mine. I think a well priced domestic round done two monthly will be much more worthwhile than fought over commercial work.

If my customers ever do the maths, I reckon they will n staggered. But, hey, you keep on striving for more offices.

[Steve Sed]

Dave

Not on topic so I apologise but just been on the website - what have you spent £100 000 on for pressure washing?

Rob

Exactly. The amount of wcs that gofor pressure washing, gutter cleaning etc that scrap over commercial work.. Madness. Window cleaning houses is amazing money, which is why I asked the question about commercial work. Is it really over £45 an hour. A well managed domestix round will return that. It takes time to get there, and I confess I am not there 5 days a week yet, but I earn that on a full day now.

[Wc Solutions]

I can't see the point of targetting it. Apparently all the nationals are doing them for peanuts. Those people that were on Dragon's Den being a perfect example whilst I can easily make £200 a day with domestic work. Ok, round isn't full, but if I put a 9-5 in, I will easily do that and usually much more. Can someone please explain why I should be chasing commercial work when everyone on here sees it as the golden egg and is also after it?

This is a genuine question. What are you getting out of commercial work as an hourly rate? Why do you see it as the bee's wotsits?

so you dont do much commercial work then or have had much experience with it on a large scale??

commercial work can make you alot of money and can double a domestic day with ease.

yes - small national shop ie HMV wont make you alot but large office blocks, schools and even local community centres can make you some good money

[H2GoKent]

Commercial is rubbish, all other window cleaners should stick to domestic only.

Very funny, I get the joke, all other window cleaners cleaners...
 

[Rob_Mac]

Steve

You did miss the joke. You need to have a look at Daves website. He runs a substantial operation. I only asked the question because pressure washing large - commercial buildings is what I do and that is a sizable investment.

Commercial pressure washing, window cleaning or anything else will only be what you make it.

If you go out for a day on residential and then I go out for a day on commercial I know where I would rather be!!!!!

Rob

[S.A.J]

Steve you need to target the right type of commercial!!!

We have 200 commercial contracts now and only 2 of them are with nationals!!! and they pay hell of a lot more than your average domestic.

[R W C™]

There's people on this forum and people I know who have commercial only business and if done properly like the ones I know, you can get upwards of £50 a hour per man, this isn't crap I've worked on the job with some and have seen the invoice, I'm not talking shop fronts etc but block units etc, if my memory is correct when I took my daughter to kings/eveliner hospital D.woods company was doing the windows on it, take a look on google at this place. Ask Charlie at J.V.Price if he would give up his commercial only business,

[Steve Sed]

Ok, i'm assuming that you arent all stupid. As it happens I have to give a quote for an office building. So where do I start? I really do make fantastic money on domestic, but i am prepared to be educated. Can one man earn more than £250 a day on commercial work?

[R W C™]

Yes

[D woods]

Hi Guys

I was only teasing, all window cleaning work is profitable if priced corectly.

Rob, the £100,000 on presure washing equipment, should say £10,000

[H2GoKent]

Commercial as in offices & ind estates can be very good. For a one man band little shops can be a pain unless you get a run of them.  Some only pay 3or4 quid.
 Some of the nationals even do the windows for free on large cleaning jobs.

I have a few little runs of shops I do that work ok but by a large margin my best comm work is offices.
In the past I did two primarks 6 days a week some of it subbed obviously. It was good, but when you lose the work as a one man band you really notice.

[AJ]

Horses for courses, I reckon.

[richard jagger]

Mention commercial and the truth is had to find its the best kept secrete. To find out anything worth while on here about comm. work is wishful thinking. I have a reliable source with in my family and they were telling me that a lot of comm work is bought.Brown envelopes and the rest.But I am sure this will denied by so many.Its the closed circle again.

[Catherine10]

Wizkid for sure, alot is right time, right place, who you know, connections, word of mouth.  Im not sure really most large commercial jobs go through the proper channels.  You can of course introduce yourself through procurement or new suppliers, but the guy at the top already knows who he is going to use, I come across it day in and day out.  Spun the fluff, send in details - we will keep you on file, its already sewn up.    If you want to build commercial your better looking at independent places that can make a decision on their own.  They may not be massive buildings, but for a starter it would be a good way to go. Wizkid you just used a prime example there too "I have it  from a source" that kinda speaks for itself really. 

[Steve Sed]

Wizkid for sure, alot is right time, right place, who you know, connections, word of mouth.  Im not sure really most large commercial jobs go through the proper channels.  You can of course introduce yourself through procurement or new suppliers, but the guy at the top already knows who he is going to use, I come across it day in and day out.  Spun the fluff, send in details - we will keep you on file, its already sewn up.    If you want to build commercial your better looking at independent places that can make a decision on their own.  They may not be massive buildings, but for a starter it would be a good way to go. Wizkid you just used a prime example there

too "I have it  from a source" that kinda speaks for itself really. 

Yes, but how do you price itL

[Catherine10]

Gosh I dont know Steve, anyone I send on an appointment I leave it to them.  I get asked sometimes for instance how much to clean this hotel/nursing home, I just say Im afraid we cant do a quote over the phone, somebody will have to come and look at the building, dependent on windows, finishing, access etc.  Sure somebody will come along with regards to pricing