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Andy Hogarth

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lpg conversion
« on: September 17, 2011, 09:52:42 pm »
For you guys that have changed your truck mount to lpg

How much did it cost and was it worth it??

I know it's cheaper but does it last as long etc??

Do you need a gas tank and keep the petrol tank as well, the same as a car??

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PaulKing

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Re: lpg conversion
« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2011, 09:14:37 am »
doing my prochem blazer in the next couple of weeks the kits cost £155 from edge technologies

 i don't intend to keep the petrol tank but will leave the possibility of re instating it later but I'l  removing the tank to fit large lpg tank that will last all week

my big 70hp TM is already lpg and is much cheaper to run easier to fill once or twice a week with a stako 100litre tank, you cant use a car tank as its liquid lpg you need a vapour tank as they use on motorhomes. Unless your tm is water cooled the you could fit a car lpg system but that gets a bit more complicated as you start on petrol and change to lpg when warm.



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PaulKing

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Re: lpg conversion
« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2011, 09:16:37 am »
also £40 1 kw lpg green house heater can run off the same tank simple and handy
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Shaun_Ashmore

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Re: lpg conversion
« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2011, 10:39:09 am »
That's a nice idea Paul, I'd estimate I save approx 40% on my fuel bill with lpg which over a year is approx £2000

Shaun

Andy Hogarth

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Re: lpg conversion
« Reply #4 on: September 18, 2011, 11:01:27 am »
Is it simple enough to do diy, tbh I'm crap at stuff like that so would probably have my mechanic do it

did you do your own conversion too shaun?

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Jim_77

Re: lpg conversion
« Reply #5 on: September 18, 2011, 01:56:07 pm »
When I got my TM fitted 2 years ago the LPG conversion, tank and fitting etc with an external filler all totalled to about £800.  They laid the tank alongside the nearside wheelarch and boxed over it to mount the hose reel on top.  Brilliant use of space.  I think it must have paid for itself within the first year!

Definitely worth it, and no petrol tank at all, you don't need it.  I think the biggest advantage apart from cost is it's clean-burning so when you're forced to park up near to the door you're not blowing smelly fumes inside.

AshWhite

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Re: lpg conversion
« Reply #6 on: September 18, 2011, 05:30:29 pm »
Paul, I'd be really interested how you get on with fitting the kit - its very reasonably priced! If it turns out ok, it'll definately be next on my shopping list
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terryyy100

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Re: lpg conversion
« Reply #7 on: September 18, 2011, 08:11:27 pm »
As Jim says.
Definitely worth it, and no petrol tank at all, you don't need it.  I think the biggest advantage apart from cost is it's clean-burning so when you're forced to park up near to the door you're not blowing smelly fumes inside. 
 
 
 

Shaun_Ashmore

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Re: lpg conversion
« Reply #8 on: September 18, 2011, 09:10:10 pm »
You have to remember though Jim smells anyway so the petrol was a guise ;D

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Jim_77

Re: lpg conversion
« Reply #9 on: September 19, 2011, 12:49:58 am »
Yeah, I light a rag sticking out of paraffin can at the front door, just to cover up the B.O. smell!  :-X

Andy Hogarth

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Re: lpg conversion
« Reply #10 on: September 20, 2011, 09:52:18 pm »
Paul, when you do your blazer will it be a 1 day job, if so is there any chance I can drive over and get in the way watching while you do it  ;D

I'm well up for converting mine
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PaulKing

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Re: lpg conversion
« Reply #11 on: September 21, 2011, 05:50:35 am »
Should be a hour job two with a tea break if you like no problem not sure when it will be
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Luc

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Re: lpg conversion
« Reply #12 on: September 23, 2011, 03:09:14 pm »
is it possible to convert a boxer 318 over to lpg?? does the conversion diminish the life of the engine or blower at all?

PaulKing

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Re: lpg conversion
« Reply #13 on: September 24, 2011, 08:49:22 am »
What engine is it? It's the engine you convert nothing else.  It doesn't decrease engine life, well some say it does and some say it doesn't but the ones who say it does don,t seem to be able to give a soild reason why.  Up to you to make up your own mind.

Best bit is like diesel there is no carbon monoxide from the engine so your a lot safer.

The kit cost the same as we spend on two weeks fuel so it's a no brainer for us the tanks cost twice that or you could use cylinders but tanks are vehicle rated and less hassle.

So pay back on the conversion  is roughly 20 weeks for me and then it's half price fuel so we will be £1500 better off after a year at present rates and petrols still going up, over a life of a tm engine say five years that's £7500. now with that in mind still worried about your engine life.




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PaulKing

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Re: lpg conversion
« Reply #14 on: September 24, 2011, 08:57:12 am »
Just a. Question for petrol users who always say ahhh but its a bomb in your van, my gastank and frame its bolted into has been crash tested but the germans safety board and is ce marked for vehicle use .

The jerry can we all keep the spare gallon in "just in case" you run out may well fly forward burst and shower you or you bulk-head in lovely lovely flammable petrol, personally that used to bother me if you have a gas tank burst youprobably not have survived the crash to be bothered

Just watch I'll exploded next week having said that
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jasonl

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Re: lpg conversion
« Reply #15 on: September 24, 2011, 08:59:59 am »
What engine is it? It's the engine you convert nothing else.  It doesn't decrease engine life, well some say it does and some say it doesn't but the ones who say it does don,t seem to be able to give a soild reason why.  Up to you to make up your own mind.

Best bit is like diesel there is no carbon monoxide from the engine so your a lot safer.

The kit cost the same as we spend on two weeks fuel so it's a no brainer for us the tanks cost twice that or you could use cylinders but tanks are vehicle rated and less hassle.

So pay back on the conversion  is roughly 20 weeks for me and then it's half price fuel so we will be £1500 better off after a year at present rates and petrols still going up, over a life of a tm engine say five years that's £7500. now with that in mind still worried about your engine life.







Fumes from an engine running LPG will still very much kill you !
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Simon Gerrard

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Re: lpg conversion
« Reply #16 on: September 24, 2011, 09:51:46 am »
Well, yeah, Jason, we sort of figured that one out all by ourselves. >:(

jasonl

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Re: lpg conversion
« Reply #17 on: September 24, 2011, 09:55:33 am »
Its just that Paul king said there is no carbon monoxide so you are a lot safer.
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PaulKing

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Re: lpg conversion
« Reply #18 on: September 24, 2011, 10:22:56 am »
Hands up you got me which fumes does it produce ?
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jasonl

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Re: lpg conversion
« Reply #19 on: September 24, 2011, 10:40:12 am »
LPG will still produce carbon monoxide , I would recommend using a detector in your van ,and ventilating it well.   It is propane  really just the same as what is in the red bottles on thousands of caravans, the new ones have really strict regulations as to the safe use and operation.

I would go down the LPG route , it is very safe and much cleaner than diesel , so long as you have ,and stick to proper procedures and common sense .
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