[dazmond]

if my tank is full to the brim is it possible to put an immersion heater in the top lid of a full tank of pure to heat it up?or is this dodgy practice?

dont want to spend thousands on a hot system and dont fancy faffing about with gas bottles/diesel just to heat water even with a fogwash or L5.

warm water would surely be better for keeping hoses supple on cold winter days though.

any ideas?cant fill tank with water from my hot tap either as the rubber connector just falls off due to the hot water and it runs out quick as my central heating tank doesnt hold 350L!!

if i cant do the above has anyone got any pics of fitting these immersion heaters to their tanks and the equipment needed to do it?

ive got a mate who could do it i think.dont fancy doing it myself.id probably cock it up!!


many thanks in advance guys


best wishes


dazmond

[Gav Camm lammy 283]

daz dont bother m8
iv posted this b4
propex heater's all you need 

[dazmond]

hi gav does this propex heater just heat the back of the van?they are expensive though arent they?around £450?is that right?then do you need a gas bottle to run it?sounds a very expensive way to keep the van warm.

if its a good heater that will last for years i might be tempted to get one though if it keeps me working through the cold winter days.


regards


dazmond

[Dougaldum]

if my tank is full to the brim is it possible to put an immersion heater in the top lid of a full tank of pure to heat it up?or is this dodgy practice?

dont want to spend thousands on a hot system and dont fancy faffing about with gas bottles/diesel just to heat water even with a fogwash or L5.

warm water would surely be better for keeping hoses supple on cold winter days though.

any ideas?cant fill tank with water from my hot tap either as the rubbwhat kind of er connector just falls off due to the hot water and it runs out quick as m

if i cant do the above has anyone got any pics of fitting these immersion heaters to their tanks and the equipment needed to do it?

ive got a mate who could do it i think.dont fancy doing it myself.id probably cock it up!!


many thanks in advance guys


best wishes


dazmond

what kind of tank you got and how much water dose it hold

[Gav Camm lammy 283]

daz just contact justin at clean n clear
he took my advise yes about 450 m8
works off a gaz bottle n a thermostat
just google propex heaters you will be the only guy working
up manchester thats for sure , look at it like this you lose 3 days
at 150 a day thats yr propex simples   you only gota stop the
damage innit ice is a killer

[dazmond]

DOUGALDUM ive got a 350L  LAYFLAT TANK.

thanks gav.seems a bit expensive.maybe a oil filled radiator would do the same job mate.

[Londoner]

If you just want to stop the water freezing a 300w pond heater is a good bet. About £50 on ebay

[Gav Camm lammy 283]

DOUGALDUM ive got a 350L  LAYFLAT TANK.

thanks gav.seems a bit expensive.maybe a oil filled radiator would do the same job mate.

daz youve spend pure dollar wots 450

[Dougaldum]

DOUGALDUM ive got a 350L  LAYFLAT TANK.

thanks gav.seems a bit expensive.maybe a oil filled radiator would do the same job mate.

cost me 40 pounds to have a immersion heater fitted in my tank now i have hot water when i want it if you want one have got 1 and a 3 kw just need to get a lead cost 7pounds to if interested let me know

[H2GoKent]

Someone before said to use a mechanical flange to allow you to fit it.
Machine mart sell both the immersion heater and the flange.
That's what I plan to do.

Last year I used an oil filled rad and it worked on all but the coldest days, but I am down south....

[lozsing]

I fitted a immersion heater last winter kept me going only lost 1 week and that was because you couldnt park anywhere because the snow was that high . cost about 75p a night to run leaving it on for 4 or 5 hours . water was nice and warm and so was the van. you got to fit it low in the tank or it wont work well . Cost about £70 all in .I fitted 2 more in my mates vans too.Got to make sure all your cables are up to using 3 kw of power ,I used immersion heater cable .

[Mike #1]

aquarium heater 1 kw £50.00 inc P & P from ebay there is a link from nat in oil rad post its the ebay.ie but the guy is based in the uk in yorkshire ,  MIKE

[SherwoodCleaningSe]

I've done it for a few winters. It does work but hot water rises, so the water that comes out the bottom of the tank is just warm, but warm enough to keep you working. In comparison gas boilers will deliver very hot water, I'd have another look at the l5 Fogwash route.

Simon.

[dazmond]

ive decided not to bother!!just gonna get a oil filled radiator and keep it on throughout frosty nights and bring all my other gear inside(poles,reel,trolley).

only thing is i have a 70m of hose now and just concerned about the managabilty of it in cold weather!!

[♠Winp®oClean♠]

For me the idea of the immersion was not to work with hot water but to be able to start at 9am in a morning with nothing frozen & have lovely supple hoses all day long.

My element is fitted approx 1/3 up from the bottom of the tank. The theory of the water below this being cold isn't correct as warm water will rise & create circulation + as soon as you set off, all the water mixes up anyway.

Cost me approx £50 for all the stuff from toolstation. I used a mechanical flange & got the immersion cable from City Electrical Factors for a couple of quid. No sealant/silicone was used, only PTFE paste & tape & it has never leaked one drop or caused me any problems. Took me about 1.5 hours to do it first time but fitted another for a friend in 1 hour.

[Tom White]

What's a mechanical flange, win?  Got a linky?

Cheers. 

[SunShineCleaning]

If you do have one fitted, it should run off the correct cable and have its own fuse in the fuse box. Unsafe otherwise.

[♠Winp®oClean♠]

What's a mechanical flange, win?  Got a linky?

Cheers. 

Flange

http://www.toolstation.com/shop/Heating/Central+Heating/Mechanical+Flange+2+14/d230/sd2708/p38614


And the element which fits into it.

http://www.toolstation.com/shop/Heating/Central+Heating/Immersion+Heater+Resettable+Thermostat+27/d230/sd2708/p40149

Basically, you fit the flange to the tank & this replicates the fitting on a domestic hot water tank. The element then screws in to this as it does on a hot water tank. The flange makes a proper, solid fixture which can also be blanked off with a cap in future if needs be or the element can be replaced without hassle or disruption to the tank.

[♠Winp®oClean♠]

If you do have one fitted, it should run off the correct cable and have its own fuse in the fuse box. Unsafe otherwise.

Correct cable is correct but own fuse is nonsense!

I consulted a fully qualified & experienced sparky (my best mate) about the whole thing before I did it.

[FCS]

All the bits, about £30 (including an extension cord to get from the house to the van to power it..)

Hole cutting time..  nervous much? yup.

Cut the hole tight, so the immersion heater makes its own thread in the plastic of the tank. I had a flange to screw on the back (like a big nut, but one wider flatter edge) but the tank plastic was so thick I could only get half a turn on it. Hence lots of waterproof silicone.



the view from inside the tank. Only had to use it half a dozen times this year, but it works a treat, and not a drop of water leaked yet...

Just dont forget to put it on a TIMER (3-4 hours or so)..    I forgot one night, left it on for about 8 hours, the van was warm through and through and the water was as hot as hot bath water!!    toasty!