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A P T

Opinions Sought
« on: July 12, 2011, 09:40:27 am »
Hi to everyone. We just got a new contract, and Im interested to hear your opinions on just what machine, either type or specific, you would suggest. Will be purchasing one or two for this particular task which is :  approx 90,000 sqM of corridor carpets, vast majority of which are polyprop, to be done twice a year, numerous sites (29) buildings of varying heights, ( from 9 storeys to 30 )

have got a shopping list in mind, but always interested to hear other views and opinions,

Colin Day

Re: opinions sought
« Reply #1 on: July 12, 2011, 09:43:28 am »
Will you be bonneting or HWE'ing?

A P T

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« Reply #2 on: July 12, 2011, 09:49:28 am »
Hi Colin,
 first choice was planned to be hwe, with a bonnet set up as a back up

main issue i see with hwe, lots of grafting, but then again, there is with bonnet mopping too

what do you think ?

jasonl

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« Reply #3 on: July 12, 2011, 10:22:49 am »
I would use a high powered porty/tm with a rx20   for badly soiled areas , then bonnet the rest , that is 20 acres nearly of carpeting.
I clean carpets
I dry Buildings

mark joyce

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« Reply #4 on: July 12, 2011, 10:25:39 am »
I would use a prochem supernova or polaris   you dont want to be waving a wand around that lot you will end up like popeye   

A P T

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« Reply #5 on: July 12, 2011, 10:38:02 am »
that's interesting, thanks guys.
First option was to be the polaris 1200 or 800, although the supernova works backwards and forwards, i heard they might not be as manouverable as first thought, anuone got experience of the supernova ?

agreed, we thought the wand might be a bit much !
would also use the bonnet as a back up


mark joyce

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« Reply #7 on: July 12, 2011, 11:09:25 am »
No I have a polaris but if I had a nice contract like that I would invest in a supernova as from what I have read and know about the polaris it must be equal if not better

A P T

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« Reply #8 on: July 12, 2011, 12:14:31 pm »
thanks for that Mark, but Steve, any suggestions for equipment if your processes were to be used ? and how about productivity ?

Mark, would you suggest the polaris is up to doing say, 1000 to 1500 SqM a day ?

Steve Barnett (Carpet Care Plus)

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Re: opinions sought
« Reply #9 on: July 12, 2011, 12:43:42 pm »
Not sure on the encap productivity, Geoff Wrightson is the man to comment on that, but I'm sure it's high - in the region of 200m2 per hour but I stand to be corrected.

Machine-wise, it would be a three-headed Cimex scrub machine.

derek west

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« Reply #10 on: July 12, 2011, 01:07:49 pm »
i'd get simon in to do it, take him a week. and i'm not jokin either.

and he'd do a good job.

A P T

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« Reply #11 on: July 12, 2011, 01:25:39 pm »
 :)  nice one derek, so this chap, he used to teach at Hogworts did he ? 90,000 SqM over 30 buildings in a week ?  I heard of some fast workers, but just maybe that would be stratching it a bit hehe, then again, if he would do a weeks work for grand or two, we could still make money !   will give that some serious thinking about, thanks

Jamie Pearson

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« Reply #12 on: July 12, 2011, 01:49:27 pm »
I would look into a CFR Cascade if you think extraction will be required.

It's faster than bonnet cleaning and easier.

There is also the machine from the guys that import surround. I can't remember their names though. It's about £10k

It will all depend on what the smallest and largest areas are.

We have one site that has over 6 miles of corridors in it. We use a combination of the cascade and bonnet cleaning with dfc over the quarterly visits.

Jamie Pearson

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« Reply #13 on: July 12, 2011, 01:50:43 pm »

A P T

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« Reply #14 on: July 12, 2011, 01:57:43 pm »
interesting, thanks.  there are a couple of quite tiny corridors, for example outside of some of the penthouse apartments, where the area can be as small as 25 SqM, the largest is probably a floor a just under 2M wide and just under 350M long

will definetly have a look at these products, thanks

robert meldrum

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« Reply #15 on: July 12, 2011, 02:07:09 pm »
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Simon Gerrard

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« Reply #16 on: July 12, 2011, 04:16:18 pm »
A P T,
You say you've just got a new contract but you don't seem clear on which method / methods you're going to use, so how did you manage to formulate the tender on the first place?

Simon

A P T

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« Reply #17 on: July 12, 2011, 04:25:15 pm »
No, I've always been clear, just here on the forum I've been inviting opinions, thats all

A P T

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« Reply #18 on: July 12, 2011, 04:29:10 pm »
sorry, meant to add in last posting, although I have decided on the method, i am still interested to hear a) which back up system the users here preferred and b) which piece of hardware, as there are always many opinions to listen too, its always worth asking the question,
cheers

Mike Halliday

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« Reply #19 on: July 12, 2011, 04:32:21 pm »
any portable will be a nightmare with such an amount of carpet, its an awful amount of filling and emptying. is there access to water and disposal on every floor?

a truckmount is not an option either, it has to be bonnet, encap' or something that has not been mentioned....  

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Mike Halliday.  www.henryhalliday.co.uk