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A bit of help required please - before I burn my house down.
« on: October 15, 2005, 06:25:38 pm »
I've just purchased a battery charger and started charging the battery for my trolley system.

Unfortunately; upon reading the instructions it says I shouldn't use it to charge any battery less than 20 Ah.

I've just had a look at my battery and it's 17 Ah - so obviously smaller - but only 3 Ah's out (what-ever an Ah is).

Am I doing something dangerous?

matt

Re: A bit of help required please - before I burn my house down.
« Reply #1 on: October 15, 2005, 07:09:32 pm »
17 Ah means 17 Amps per hour  i think

the danger of using a bigger charger than the battery is, it might overcharge and catch fire

at least thats what i remmber from a guy who installs Leisure batteries in caravans etc

Re: A bit of help required please - before I burn my house down.
« Reply #2 on: October 15, 2005, 07:17:28 pm »
the danger of using a bigger charger than the battery is, it might overcharge and catch fire

Cheers, mate.  I'll not go to bed with it left on then.  I'm a 'bodger' as you probably know by now.

'Ah, that'll do!' is almost my catch-phrase.

busydaffodil

Re: A bit of help required please - before I burn my house down.
« Reply #3 on: October 15, 2005, 08:26:25 pm »
17 Ah means 17 Amps per hour  i think

the danger of using a bigger charger than the battery is, it might overcharge and catch fire


Though most usually have an automatic cut out system/safety device.  Though I would probably not leave it on over night or when your out.  For the record.....I asked hubby!  He confirmed what I thought.

Lizzy

gaza

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Re: A bit of help required please - before I burn my house down.
« Reply #4 on: October 15, 2005, 08:36:34 pm »
TOSH ITS GOT A FUSE INIT AINT IT?PUT IT OUT SIDE AND RUN A LEAD TO IT SO IF IT DOES BLOW AND CHRIST IT GOES WITH A BANG,YOU WILL WAKE UP THOSE NEIGHBOURS WHO ANNOY YOU FOR A FEW HUNDRED YRDS, BUT COVER IT UP INCASE IT RAINS AND BLOWS ANYWAY.

but remember  its full of acid

not much use Iknow but Ive charged up outside before with a plaSTIC BOX OVER IT

    GAZA
IM AT THAT AGE MY BACK GOES OUT MORE THAN I DO

sair

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Re: A bit of help required please - before I burn my house down.
« Reply #5 on: October 15, 2005, 08:40:46 pm »
hi tosh i have some inteligent battery charges they are 19.00 each we use them on our 18 amp batteries if interested e mail purewatersales@tiscali.co.uk
Essentially Pure Ltd

Re: A bit of help required please - before I burn my house down.
« Reply #6 on: October 15, 2005, 09:08:45 pm »
Cheers, Sair,

Too late though.  I bought one from Argos this morning!  Wrong type, but I aim to get my money's worth unless my house burns down first.


busydaffodil

Re: A bit of help required please - before I burn my house down.
« Reply #7 on: October 15, 2005, 09:14:31 pm »
Argos have a 14 day money back policy I think.  Return it with no reason other than it was unsuitable.     

Lizzy

Re: A bit of help required please - before I burn my house down.
« Reply #8 on: October 15, 2005, 09:20:44 pm »
Argos have a 14 day money back policy I think.  Return it with no reason other than it was unsuitable.     

Lizzy

It seems to be working fine!  I've put it on trickle charge, and tommorow when I erect the new shed, I'll run a cable through the cat flap and charge it in there.

There's only a 3 Ah difference!

poles apart

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Re: A bit of help required please - before I burn my house down.
« Reply #9 on: October 15, 2005, 09:26:33 pm »
Did you get the shed from Argos as well?

Sarah Sarill

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Re: A bit of help required please - before I burn my house down.
« Reply #10 on: October 15, 2005, 09:27:37 pm »
Hi Tosh,

Was just thinking - not possible I know !!!!

I'm not doing anything special now for the rest of the night so if anything happens to the battery charger just email me and Will & I will speed up the M4 and A48 and put your fire out with our wfp !!

Be a good chance to meet up eh !!!!

Regards to Helen from Pontypool  - but she can't help it  (think your  on rations now Tosh ),

regards

Sarah
Sarah

busydaffodil

Re: A bit of help required please - before I burn my house down.
« Reply #11 on: October 15, 2005, 09:28:52 pm »
And hubby and I could come clean up when the fires out & cook a little breakfast!

SORTED!

Re: A bit of help required please - before I burn my house down.
« Reply #12 on: October 15, 2005, 09:34:55 pm »
Tosh

You are running a risk of overcharging your battery with devastating results.
Unless you use an intelligent charger or get one that charges to a max of 17 amp hrs.

A friend of mine has no recognisable face now because of exactly this situation. He "got away" with it for a while then he happened to be there when it finally blew. This one certainly isn't worth the risk for the sake of a few quid.

Amp Hrs..  a simple explanation:

Most batteries are rated in amp-hours (Ah). An amp-hour is a rate of one amp of electricity for one hour. A 100Ah battery will in theory give 1 amp for 100 hours or 100 amps for 1 hour or some other value pro rata. EG 5 amps for 20 hrs.

Hope this helps

Andrew

matt

Re: A bit of help required please - before I burn my house down.
« Reply #13 on: October 15, 2005, 09:42:07 pm »
Tosh

as its from argos

stick it back in the box, and pop it back tomorrow, anyother excuse for shopping with wor lass

take it to the 1 in the MALL at cribs causeway (just down the raod from you) and you can buy me a beer ;)

gaza

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Re: A bit of help required please - before I burn my house down.
« Reply #14 on: October 15, 2005, 09:43:00 pm »
sarill:sensertive ears about,putting fires out with water fed poles
Im the fastest wfp fire putterouter ;D


 gaza
IM AT THAT AGE MY BACK GOES OUT MORE THAN I DO

Re: A bit of help required please - before I burn my house down.
« Reply #15 on: October 15, 2005, 09:48:47 pm »
Aaaww, Andrew.  Not fair.  I've disconected it!  Wor Lass read you post and made me.

I'll try charging it again tomorrow in the shed - once I've put it up!

It's only "3 Ah's" difference.  Aaawwww; it's not fair. :-[

Thanks for your advice.

Regards,

Tosh

Re: A bit of help required please - before I burn my house down.
« Reply #16 on: October 15, 2005, 09:49:49 pm »
sarill:sensertive ears about,putting fires out with water fed poles
Im the fastest wfp fire putterouter ;D


 gaza

LOL Gaza  ;D

Good to see you can look at the funny side of it now. As before..  if I can help gimme a shout.

Andrew

busydaffodil

Re: A bit of help required please - before I burn my house down.
« Reply #17 on: October 15, 2005, 09:51:10 pm »
having read Andrews post, I agree with Wor Lass!   Take it back & buy one suited to your requirements.   Not worth the risk really is it?


Re: A bit of help required please - before I burn my house down.
« Reply #18 on: October 15, 2005, 09:52:10 pm »
Aaaww, Andrew.  Not fair.  I've disconected it!  Wor Lass read you post and made me.

It's only "3 Ah's" difference.  Aaawwww; it's not fair. :-[


Regards,

Tosh


Bugg**r   soz Tosh mate.  One up for the "other side" and it's my fault   :'(

Will I ever live this one down?

Andrew

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Re: A bit of help required please - before I burn my house down.
« Reply #19 on: October 15, 2005, 09:54:28 pm »
Tosh

manufacturers always err  on the side of caution of about 20 % .it should be ok but dont go to be unattended  ; ;)