[GB Window Cleaning]

so what does everyone use for first cleans? im starting to think my brush is not ideal for first cleans (or maintenance cleans for that matter )

thanks

GB

[steven ainger]

my latest brush is the extreme ( white one ),
does an allround good job imo.
what are you using then 

[GB Window Cleaning]

ok i need to get to the bottom of this what do the following terms mean?

Flagged?

Flocked?

Mono-Filament?

single-trim?

micro-variation soft/medium bristles?

please help! ive been confused about this for a long time. and i seem to get different answers depending who i ask  :

[GB Window Cleaning]

my latest brush is the extreme ( white one ),
does an allround good job imo.
what are you using then 

i'll get a picture of my brushes on in a bit mate and you can tell me what they are if you dont mind, because i seem to get a different answer depending on who i ask! insane!

tar mate

GB

[windiewasher]

Just get the white xtreme from gardiner pole systems.nuff said
Light great scrubbing and perfect all round brush.
Use less water.rinses on the glass.

[Blue Frog Systems]

Personally i like the  standard SL DT flocked with 1mm jets for both 1st & maintainence cleans

[Lee GLS]

ok i need to get to the bottom of this what do the following terms mean?

Flagged?

Flocked?

Mono-Filament?

single-trim?

micro-variation soft/medium bristles?

please help! ive been confused about this for a long time. and i seem to get different answers depending who i ask  :

Flagged?  Like flocked split ends on bristles not suitable for rinsing on glass

Flocked?  See above

Mono-Filament? Opposite to flocked, suitable for rinsing on glass

single-trim? Bristles all the same length


Personally I use the White xtreme for first an maintenance cleans, but not for leaded first cleans but I do use it on leaded maintenance cleans.

[mci services]

ok i need to get to the bottom of this what do the following terms mean?

Flagged? same as flocked soft bristles that retain the dirt no good for rinsing on

Flocked?  same as flagged soft bristles that retain the dirt no good for rinsing on


Mono-Filament? stiff bristles that is ideal for rinsing on

single-trim? there are variations to the mono

micro-variation soft/medium bristles? same as above

please help! ive been confused about this for a long time. and i seem to get different answers depending who i ask  :

I used the vikan mono oval brush, but now using the white extreme, both work well but I prefer the extreme, but lee has beat me to it

[♠Winp®oClean♠]

ok i need to get to the bottom of this what do the following terms mean?

Flagged?

Flocked?

Mono-Filament?

single-trim?

micro-variation soft/medium bristles?

please help! ive been confused about this for a long time. and i seem to get different answers depending who i ask  :

Flagged & flocked are the same thing- the ends of the bristles (filaments) are split/crushed. This gives a "feathered" look to them. They tend to soften the feel of the brush & due to their nature have more contact with the glass. They do hold more dirt & water though.

Mono filament - the ends of the bristles (filaments) are not crushed & so just stop dead. This does not mean they are stiffer, you can have a mono brush which is very soft (black Xtreme). They tend to hold less dirt & retain less water so they are good for rinsing on & tend to be lighter in use.

Single trim- can be either mono or flocked but all the bristles are the same length.

Dual/double trim- again, can be either mono or flocked but the inner rows of bristles are shorter than the outer rows. This is to give greater scrubbing power as because the inner rows are shorter- they become stiffer. Apply pressure to the brush & the inner rows come in to contact with the glass giving extra scrubbing power to shift bird poo etc. However, the higher you go the less effective this becomes depending on how stiff the outer rows are.

Micro variation- (as far as I know) the brush is single trim but the very ends of the bristles are not uniform, as in they are very slightly different in length. Personally, I feel that this gives a "feel" between flocked & mono but retains the properties of a mono brush.

My personal favourite is the Gardiner Xtreme white (standard). In fact it's virtually all I use now. Different people like different brushes & for various reasons.

Hope that helps

[Nameless Drudge]

That green brush you put up a picture of recently will clean any window and clean it brilliantly so get that imprinted in your head now. You originially stated your method was to brush a window once,squirt some water at the top and that was job done,then wanted to know why you were leaving dirty water marks. I`m not convinced that you are not just playing about with the forum.You cannot be serious as they say.Where on earth did you get that method of using wfp from? You appear to have grasped absolutely nothing,normally people read every backpost,watch you tube video`s and then post questions for a bit of fine tuning.
                             If you are serious then i dont think you`ll cope with the monotony when your initial enthusiasm wains so make an exit plan now and tell yoursel you are building an asset to sell on.

[GB Window Cleaning]

ok i need to get to the bottom of this what do the following terms mean?

Flagged?

Flocked?

Mono-Filament?

single-trim?

micro-variation soft/medium bristles?

please help! ive been confused about this for a long time. and i seem to get different answers depending who i ask  :

Flagged?  Like flocked split ends on bristles not suitable for rinsing on glass

Flocked?  See above

Mono-Filament? Opposite to flocked, suitable for rinsing on glass

single-trim? Bristles all the same length


Personally I use the White xtreme for first an maintenance cleans, but not for leaded first cleans but I do use it on leaded maintenance cleans.

brilliant info as usual sir thanks alot

GB

[GB Window Cleaning]

ok i need to get to the bottom of this what do the following terms mean?

Flagged? same as flocked soft bristles that retain the dirt no good for rinsing on

Flocked?  same as flagged soft bristles that retain the dirt no good for rinsing on


Mono-Filament? stiff bristles that is ideal for rinsing on

single-trim? there are variations to the mono

micro-variation soft/medium bristles? same as above

please help! ive been confused about this for a long time. and i seem to get different answers depending who i ask  :

I used the vikan mono oval brush, but now using the white extreme, both work well but I prefer the extreme, but lee has beat me to it

nice one mate, even if lee beat you to it  thanks very much!

GB

[GB Window Cleaning]

ok i need to get to the bottom of this what do the following terms mean?

Flagged?

Flocked?

Mono-Filament?

single-trim?

micro-variation soft/medium bristles?

please help! ive been confused about this for a long time. and i seem to get different answers depending who i ask  :

Flagged & flocked are the same thing- the ends of the bristles (filaments) are split/crushed. This gives a "feathered" look to them. They tend to soften the feel of the brush & due to their nature have more contact with the glass. They do hold more dirt & water though.

Mono filament - the ends of the bristles (filaments) are not crushed & so just stop dead. This does not mean they are stiffer, you can have a mono brush which is very soft (black Xtreme). They tend to hold less dirt & retain less water so they are good for rinsing on & tend to be lighter in use.

Single trim- can be either mono or flocked but all the bristles are the same length.

Dual/double trim- again, can be either mono or flocked but the inner rows of bristles are shorter than the outer rows. This is to give greater scrubbing power as because the inner rows are shorter- they become stiffer. Apply pressure to the brush & the inner rows come in to contact with the glass giving extra scrubbing power to shift bird poo etc. However, the higher you go the less effective this becomes depending on how stiff the outer rows are.

Micro variation- (as far as I know) the brush is single trim but the very ends of the bristles are not uniform, as in they are very slightly different in length. Personally, I feel that this gives a "feel" between flocked & mono but retains the properties of a mono brush.

My personal favourite is the Gardiner Xtreme white (standard). In fact it's virtually all I use now. Different people like different brushes & for various reasons.

Hope that helps

Winpro...

yeaor a detailed god send  as always i dont know what i'd do with you (as well as others on here)

many thankyous sir!

GB

[GB Window Cleaning]

That green brush you put up a picture of recently will clean any window and clean it brilliantly so get that imprinted in your head now. You originially stated your method was to brush a window once,squirt some water at the top and that was job done,then wanted to know why you were leaving dirty water marks. I`m not convinced that you are not just playing about with the forum.You cannot be serious as they say.Where on earth did you get that method of using wfp from? You appear to have grasped absolutely nothing,normally people read every backpost,watch you tube video`s and then post questions for a bit of fine tuning.
                             If you are serious then i dont think you`ll cope with the monotony when your initial enthusiasm wains so make an exit plan now and tell yoursel you are building an asset to sell on.

sorry mate, im not winding anyone up! im just a sucker for detailed knowledge

thanks for your input

GB

[GB Window Cleaning]

@ lee gls,  out of interest, what brush do you use for leaded first cleans then? 

[Lee GLS]

@ lee gls,  out of interest, what brush do you use for leaded first cleans then? 

I use a vikan flocked brush, it cleans well but its heavy, but i can justify buying another brush. Your green unger would be fine for this type of window.

[GB Window Cleaning]

@ lee gls,  out of interest, what brush do you use for leaded first cleans then? 

I use a vikan flocked brush, it cleans well but its heavy, but i can justify buying another brush. Your green unger would be fine for this type of window.

oh right i see! thanks for that lee.

[bad trippy]

Stan uses a bog brush 

[GB Window Cleaning]

@ lee gls,  out of interest, what brush do you use for leaded first cleans then? 

I use a vikan flocked brush, it cleans well but its heavy, but i can justify buying another brush. Your green unger would be fine for this type of window.

lee what is the reason you use a flocked for first cleans on leaded glass anyway mate?

GB

[Lee GLS]

If they need a good scrub, a stiffer bristle (mono) can lift the lead if it's of poor quality, also the bump or judder across the glass, so the flocked gives a smoother action and less Likely to cause any damage. But the White xtreme is ok fir maintenance cleans where they don't need much scrubbing as the bristles are softer than a standard SL mono brush.