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Scrimble

  • Posts: 2053
thinking of changing from 4/8 weekly to 6 weekly
« on: June 30, 2011, 07:09:11 pm »
as stated in the subject thinking of changing my entire round of 4/8 weekly residentials all to 6 weekly,

reason being i dont like 4 weekly its too often, out of my last 25 new custys all have choosen 8 weekly over 4 and it seems that i now have more custys on 8 weekly than 4. i've worked it out i would actually make more money per month if everyone was on 6 weekly which has shocked me as before i thought i would lose money if i changed from 4/8 to 6

i've asked a few of my custys if they would be ok if i was to change and they said 6 weekly would be fine, i also dont like driving to an area and missing out a few houses because there not due for another 4 weeks, i think it will save me time and diesel if everyone was on the same frequency.

not sure if all my custys would accept the change though as i wouldnt like to start losing them if i do decide to change frequencys


Blue Frog Systems

  • Posts: 3813
Re: thinking of changing from 4/8 weekly to 6 weekly
« Reply #1 on: June 30, 2011, 07:16:42 pm »
Maybe its time to bite the bullet and just do it Mark

You could send out a letter to each customer or even ring / text them informing them of the change.

If it would work better for you & your business, then you may have to accept the fact that you may loose a few
Only those who risk going too far will truly know how far they can actually go

mlscontractcleaner

  • Posts: 1483
Re: thinking of changing from 4/8 weekly to 6 weekly
« Reply #2 on: June 30, 2011, 07:18:50 pm »
probably 99% of our residential work is cleaned every 4 weeks and I can see no reason to change. If we switched to a 6 week rota we'd need to canvass new work to fill the week's up with or we'd lose money; not good!!!

Four weeks isn't too often; can't see where you get that idea from, and if changing to 6 weeks is actually going to increase your monthly turnover you must have loads of 8 weekly cleans.

And how are you going to persuade your 8 week customers to switch to a 6 weekly rota; they'll be paying more to you each year so may not like it.
Come and talk dirty to us!!!

steven ainger

  • Posts: 1953
Re: thinking of changing from 4/8 weekly to 6 weekly
« Reply #3 on: June 30, 2011, 07:33:47 pm »
I think 4 wkly is too frequent, and have changed to 6 wkly

George Gardner

  • Posts: 220
Re: thinking of changing from 4/8 weekly to 6 weekly
« Reply #4 on: June 30, 2011, 08:30:11 pm »
1 big thing I feel when I started is went straight in for 6 weeks as if you start them on 4 weekly they are saying the old "so soon" or "you again".

Jackal

  • Posts: 1088
Re: thinking of changing from 4/8 weekly to 6 weekly
« Reply #5 on: June 30, 2011, 08:41:11 pm »
4 weekly is to often for me aswell i changed mine a year ago to 5 weekly and thats still to soon 6 weeks would be perfect for most people even the ones who want monthly as they wouldnt notice as time just flies by,every week i think to myself god im here again already  :o

mikecam

Re: thinking of changing from 4/8 weekly to 6 weekly
« Reply #6 on: June 30, 2011, 08:56:55 pm »
Most of mine are getting a push towards 6 weekly.

mci services

Re: thinking of changing from 4/8 weekly to 6 weekly
« Reply #7 on: June 30, 2011, 10:10:29 pm »
madness, you are devalueing your round and having to find new work

agreed ;)

mikecam

Re: thinking of changing from 4/8 weekly to 6 weekly
« Reply #8 on: June 30, 2011, 10:16:47 pm »
madness, you are devalueing your round and having to find new work
Thats one way of looking at it Stan, and i'm not saying you're wrong. But what do you do when you think monthlys come round to quick, you get bored and you've no end of new customers coming on board?
 To my way of thinking whats even more madness, and mind numbing madness is to go up and down about 10 streets for a fortnight and then go do it all again the next fortnight and repeat ad infinitum. This job is boring enough !!!

mikecam

Re: thinking of changing from 4/8 weekly to 6 weekly
« Reply #9 on: June 30, 2011, 10:32:51 pm »
might be boring wfp ,but im never bored with me ladder,2 and 4 weekly work with a nice mixture of bungs ,terraced houses ,shops,estates,farms
And you also sell on work, you missed that bit out. To be honest i find fortnightly rounds as they tend to be cheaper in price , actualy devalue your work due to the frequency. People don;t generally want to pay a premium for a fortnightly service so there is a compromise. Usually on the window cleaners side of a cheaper price for a more regular service.  Whats your guesses for why people retain a fortnightly tard cleaner Stan and then employ a monthly pole cleaner, seeing as you've been in the game a while?

monkeyboy950

  • Posts: 196
Re: thinking of changing from 4/8 weekly to 6 weekly
« Reply #10 on: June 30, 2011, 10:51:38 pm »
My work is all 4 weekly,I can do it in 4 days a week then a day contract stuff,if I was to change it to 6 weekly I would lose out on money so it's not a very good plan for me,I pick up and loose customers all the time and just say it's every 4 weeks I don't take them on if its every 2nd time unless it's a existing custie and they are away or have lost there job,

steve rix

  • Posts: 816
Re: thinking of changing from 4/8 weekly to 6 weekly
« Reply #11 on: June 30, 2011, 10:56:04 pm »
Rounds are usually sold on a multiple of monthly turnover. 6 weeks must therefore devalue the round. If you have too much work sell it or employ someone. 4years ago I started on my own, now employ 6 people looking to take on 1 more soon. (Trad only )

dazmond

  • Posts: 24579
Re: thinking of changing from 4/8 weekly to 6 weekly
« Reply #12 on: June 30, 2011, 11:05:34 pm »
most of my work is 4 weekly(around 80%) the rest a mixture of 6 weekly/8 weeklies.im happy with my frequencies and i very rarely get a "back too soon".im finding im quicker on 4 weekly work as there is usually minimal dirt to clean off.a lot are very compact cheaper work.in the winter months im very rarely bang on 4 weekly.more like 5 or 6.i used to do fortnightly work up until 10 years ago but decided it was too often.

im also finding new work wanting 6 or 8 weekly but i price them a lot better than some older 4 weekly work so worth the longer frequency.

i can see a fair few customers not liking it if you change from 8weekly to 6 weekly.

im finding accounts that are near big trees or main roads worth cleaning every 4 weeks even with wfp esp if we ve had a few windy days since their last clean! ;) ;D ;D
price higher/work harder!

[GQC] Tim

  • Posts: 4536
Re: thinking of changing from 4/8 weekly to 6 weekly
« Reply #13 on: June 30, 2011, 11:10:30 pm »
4 weekly to often? In most if all businesses you want customers to come back to you very often right? Or are you not in the money making business?  :D

Because of having enough work I only accept new customers on a 4 weekly basis, I'm trying to fill up the gaps with just monthly work. Much better this way. I don't care if they are still sparkling when I come (they aren't in my opinion), 4 weekly means more money then 6 weekly, simple as that really. I've had 3 weekly customers, and they really bring in the money. 6 weekly maybe if it's a big job, 8 weekly I say no sorry.

sf

  • Posts: 347
Re: thinking of changing from 4/8 weekly to 6 weekly
« Reply #14 on: June 30, 2011, 11:12:38 pm »
90% 4 weekly 10% 8 weekly for me,im in this to make money ul never keep everyone happy.As long as u keep the majority happy ul be fine. Take on an average of 5 houses a week because cusies not happy with exsisting windy being 6 -8 weekly. 4 weekly works just fine for me, 8 weekly are only on request.

Paul Coleman

Re: thinking of changing from 4/8 weekly to 6 weekly
« Reply #15 on: July 01, 2011, 05:45:20 am »
I started out on monthly with a few going for two monthly.  When I had trouble keeping up eventually, I switched to 6 weekly.  This didn't devalue my round because the monthlies were often 6 weekly by then anyway.  The bimonthlies were OK about it - with a couple of exceptions.  These days I get some asking about 12 weekly.  I do it but at a price.  I was asked why I charge so much more for 12 weekly and simply said that it was a service that I prefer not to provide so I charge extra for it.  I'm OK with much larger jobs being 12 weekly but don't really want more normal sized properties on that frequency.  I also inform them that 6 weekly can often mean 6-8 weekly and 12 weekly can mean 12-16 weekly depending on daylight hours and other things that may go wrong from time to time.

Ian101

  • Posts: 7889
Re: thinking of changing from 4/8 weekly to 6 weekly
« Reply #16 on: July 01, 2011, 06:53:20 am »
when i quote new customers these days give them a monthly and bi-monthly price

£12 or £16
£14 or £20

without fail the ratio is 1 in 4 still go for the monthly price.

Anyone who then says call less frequent will know the new price already.


Poles R Us

Re: thinking of changing from 4/8 weekly to 6 weekly
« Reply #17 on: July 01, 2011, 07:05:40 am »
i do 6week or 8 week , some i just say call me when you want them done

Frankybadboy

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Re: thinking of changing from 4/8 weekly to 6 weekly
« Reply #18 on: July 01, 2011, 07:24:54 am »
i aim for 5/6weeks,and dont work to any days,i get there when i get there,so i dont put myself under any pressure that way..and i've allways got enough work to carry on with. ;D

andyM

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Re: thinking of changing from 4/8 weekly to 6 weekly
« Reply #19 on: July 01, 2011, 07:34:34 am »
It would be worth switching 4 weekly to 6 weekly if you were increasing your prices to compensate for this.
Otherwise I can't see the point?
One of the Plebs