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Sarah Kirby

Re: A good website designer with good SEO !
« Reply #40 on: June 16, 2011, 12:06:41 am »
I think Adams got a point there

wynne jones

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Re: A good website designer with good SEO !
« Reply #41 on: June 16, 2011, 12:35:37 am »
I say good luck to Mark. At least you could say he's a professional i.e. making money doing websites and SEO as opposed to playing around with it and hanging off Matt Cutts every word.

He is giving them what they want, just like your average housewife wants a cheap carpet clean and being no wiser is relatively happy with it.

Local SEO for carpet cleaners is no biggy in most areas, and there isn't much money in it either, do you think the best SEO people are going to be working for Mr sole trader carpet cleaner when they could be working for a Cosmetic Dental Practice or Compensation Lawyer or a 4x4 Franchise?

In the land of the blind a few spammy backlinks here and there will go a long way.    
It's not expensive, you just can't afford it.

Adam P

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Re: A good website designer with good SEO !
« Reply #42 on: June 16, 2011, 12:58:33 am »
yes good luck to mark and all that i'm glad he's making money selling sites people are happy with blah blah blah, however have you compleetly forgot the point of this thread? the op asked a clear question and listed what he was looking for. mark isn't it. people seem to be taking offence or something to this and are quick to defend someone who doesn't need defending.

wynne jones

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Re: A good website designer with good SEO !
« Reply #43 on: June 16, 2011, 07:26:23 am »
I think you are setting the benchmark way too high. For most carpet cleaners I'm sure what Mark does will suffice. As I have said, you don't need a sledgehammer to crack a nut.   
It's not expensive, you just can't afford it.

Doug Holloway

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Re: A good website designer with good SEO !
« Reply #44 on: June 16, 2011, 07:29:34 am »
Hi Guys

I think people fall into 2 categories, those who love the theory and have all the jargon and those that have observed what has worked and have put that into practice, Mark is in the latter category.

It was exactly the same when I worked as a chemist, highly qualified ones who developed little and less qualified who developed a lot.

Cheers

Doug


Ian Gourlay

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Re: A good website designer with good SEO !
« Reply #45 on: June 16, 2011, 08:03:58 am »
Im sure I went with gold but they did/do a great job never feels like a cheaper option always very quick to assist with any changes and tweaks think website was about 350

The calculator saves price shoppers to a degree not to sure if I miss phone calls due to people knowing the prices but don't want price shoppers annoying me while working anyway :)   it makes the survey easy as most times looking for stains and not worrying about if this is out of their price range.   Although you still get the my lounge is smaller than average so how much phone calls


In my experience the size of lounges can vary considerably

Also do you not find new competitors  then say I will do a lounge for £25 if you publish your list. £40 minimum charge seems low looking at area and traffic jams to get to jobs

I do like the design of your site


mark joyce

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Re: A good website designer with good SEO !
« Reply #46 on: June 16, 2011, 08:33:17 am »
Im sure I went with gold but they did/do a great job never feels like a cheaper option always very quick to assist with any changes and tweaks think website was about 350

The calculator saves price shoppers to a degree not to sure if I miss phone calls due to people knowing the prices but don't want price shoppers annoying me while working anyway :)   it makes the survey easy as most times looking for stains and not worrying about if this is out of their price range.   Although you still get the my lounge is smaller than average so how much phone calls


In my experience the size of lounges can vary considerably

Also do you not find new competitors  then say I will do a lounge for £25 if you publish your list. £40 minimum charge seems low looking at area and traffic jams to get to jobs

I do like the design of your site



Luton/Dunstable has something like 150,000 houses with in 8 or 9 miles travelling time very rarely comes in to it, everyone has to travel to work (some people spend 2 hours a day on the M25 for free every day)
so I just thank my lucky stars that Im my own boss and can do as I want when I want, when ever it gets me down  :)

Not much adds up to £40 so its always more if I have a bad journey lol

garry22

Re: A good website designer with good SEO !
« Reply #47 on: June 16, 2011, 07:42:01 pm »
Quote
I think you are setting the benchmark way too high. For most carpet cleaners I'm sure what Mark does will suffice. As I have said, you don't need a sledgehammer to crack a nut.

Are you still there Angelo?

What you need is more or less dependent on what terms/areas you want to rank for. It would vary tremendously between say your existing area Market Harborough and say, Edinburgh (which would need a lot of promotional work).

Mark's sites work well because they are targeted at smaller markets with lower competition (e.g. Colin's Falmouth site) and have reasonable on-site SEO. He has never tried to say they are the epitome of on-page SEO.

As Tony said, you won't rank for "Prada Handbags" like this.

If your new area is not London or Edinburgh, then one of these sites should be fine. At £ 200 odd it's the cost of one small newspaper ad and is there for a lot longer

I'm going to disagree slightly with Gary and Adam and say that Mark's sites probably rank as a result of their on page factors rather than that dumb linking network. Why?

Search engines are looking for evidence of natural, varied linking over time. 150 + backlinks with identical anchor text, from the same class C IP addresses is NOT natural.

Even then you won't really get penalised as search engines accept that you have no control over incoming links. The search engines will just ignore (not count) them.

 Where the problem comes is when you link out (to them). In the search engines' eyes, you have now willingly joined the network and as site owner are as guilty as the rest.

Imagine if a competitor complains to say, Google about your site, what will a manual reviewer think when they see all those reciprocal links? Try explaining that one away.

jim mca

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Re: A good website designer with good SEO !
« Reply #48 on: June 16, 2011, 10:04:27 pm »
Adam
I like your posts as you give out some good info but I do feel your first post in this thread was just about putting angelo off using mark. I have not seen 1 post on this or any other forum from a unhappy customer
of marks now if you had asked what angelos budget was then and it was over a grand then fair comment.


Adam P

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Re: A good website designer with good SEO !
« Reply #49 on: June 16, 2011, 10:28:44 pm »
maybe i'm missing your point but yeah that's right jim. the op asked for something, people suggested something else. i posted to say imo i don't think this is what the op wants for xyz reasons. it's up to angelo to decide what he wants to do now he's got different opinions. if he chooses mark i have no problem with this at all.

my posts were to give fair advice. if someone asked "who makes low costs websites and i'm not too worried about how long the website will get the results" then i'd say people on here use mark so maybe worth contacting him, but the op asked for something else. what i see is info suggesting that google is going in a different direction to what mark's site are, meaning the results his sites are getting is only going to get worse and worse. as garry has mentioned it only takes 1 second for someone at google to see every site he had made linking out just for serp benefit and not to the users benefit and then get penalised for it.

all it would take is 1 competitor to show google that that site isn't playing fair and i'm sure it'll get in trouble. users are happy now but for instance i'm sure colin's competitors are on here. if they reported his site to google are showed the out going links which are increasing each day, then his site could completely lose all it's ranking.

don't get me wrong though for £200 you can't really complain and any ranking, especially one as high as colin is getting is great, but angelo doesn't appear to want to pay cheap, and appears to want very good seo.


Re: A good website designer with good SEO !
« Reply #50 on: June 16, 2011, 10:58:52 pm »
Alright then what have you done with Kermit ???

Who is using Easter Bunny's tag, coz he is actually making sense..

So once more who are you Easter Bunny and what have you done with our Kermit???

 ;D ;D ;D

Adam P

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Re: A good website designer with good SEO !
« Reply #51 on: June 16, 2011, 11:02:52 pm »
 :o don't worry hector i'm as shocked as you are. must been all those green chemicals helping set my brain back to what it should be. i'm sure the universe will even itself out though and lolgaryj can go back to calling me a twat and thick in no time and mark can continue to call me in the middle of the night threatening to take me to court ;)

Re: A good website designer with good SEO !
« Reply #52 on: June 16, 2011, 11:09:23 pm »
Which mark is that mate ??

Adam P

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Re: A good website designer with good SEO !
« Reply #53 on: June 16, 2011, 11:21:20 pm »
whichever rang ???

i must say for legal reasons I'm guessing this is mark based on the voicemail only, it could of course have been anyone pretending to be mark.

Re: A good website designer with good SEO !
« Reply #54 on: June 17, 2011, 06:06:47 am »
Will the real Mark please stand up..... ;D