This is an advertisement
Interested In Advertising? | Contact Us Here

Warning!

 

Welcome to Clean It Up; the UK`s largest cleaning forum with over 34,000 members

 

Please login or register to post and reply to topics.      

 

Forgot your password? Click here

prestige cleaners

  • Posts: 1038
Anyone scared about this drought?
« on: June 10, 2011, 09:42:35 am »
Bit of a worry eh?

Tom White

Re: Anyone scared about this drought?
« Reply #1 on: June 10, 2011, 09:53:30 am »
No, I try not to worry these days.  Last time this happened we all worked no problems.  The rule was you couldn't wash windows with a hose attached to a fixed water supply, so using van systems was fine.

I heard a clever bloke say "If you have a problem and can do something about it, why worry?  And if you have a problem and can't do anything about it, why worry?"

Easier said than done, I agree, but worrying doesn't help.

Re: Anyone scared about this drought?
« Reply #2 on: June 10, 2011, 10:04:03 am »
You've got me worried now.

Scrimble

  • Posts: 2052
Re: Anyone scared about this drought?
« Reply #3 on: June 10, 2011, 10:22:09 am »
as long as the tap in my garage still works im not worried

Darranvps

Re: Anyone scared about this drought?
« Reply #4 on: June 10, 2011, 10:35:24 am »
It's raining like billy ho here in Crawley  ;D

Pope vader

  • Posts: 1944
Re: Anyone scared about this drought?
« Reply #5 on: June 10, 2011, 10:37:42 am »
its ok, it will only be a drought if there in no water in london,  the rest of the country could be flooded and they would still say there was a drought in london

EWCServices

  • Posts: 81
Re: Anyone scared about this drought?
« Reply #6 on: June 10, 2011, 01:06:24 pm »
If theres a hosepipe ban wfp is fine,however if there is a drought order then the wfp guys who dont know how to use a squeegee better learn pretty fast.
Gutter Cleaner-Repair-Replacement-Conservatory Cleaner-Tenement Gutter Cleaner-Window Cleaner-Silar Panel Cleaning

Dougaldum

  • Posts: 496
Re: Anyone scared about this drought?
« Reply #7 on: June 10, 2011, 02:01:54 pm »
am sacred now why do you do this to me i was happy befor  :-[

Martin-Swinscoe

  • Posts: 275
Re: Anyone scared about this drought?
« Reply #8 on: June 10, 2011, 02:30:29 pm »
don't worry chaps about the drought, they can't touch us !
The reason?

We need water to run our buisness's. If  they managed to shut us down then they would have to shut every buisness in Britain that  relies on water to keep there industry running

 end of  ;)

Wc Solutions

  • Posts: 1829
Re: Anyone scared about this drought?
« Reply #9 on: June 10, 2011, 02:36:02 pm »
don't worry chaps about the drought, they can't touch us !
The reason?

We need water to run our buisness's. If  they managed to shut us down then they would have to shut every buisness in Britain that  relies on water to keep there industry running

 end of  ;)


if farms would have to work under the drought laws then surely we must?

Pole 2 Pole

  • Posts: 1051
Re: Anyone scared about this drought?
« Reply #10 on: June 10, 2011, 02:44:52 pm »
Not in the least worried. Just the next "scare the crap out of the public" story. Well the e coli has run it's course. We need a new doom and gloom story. Don't let it get to ya bud  ;)

Re: Anyone scared about this drought?
« Reply #11 on: June 10, 2011, 03:30:32 pm »
Not in the slightest, however I may put something on my website to allay any fears.

Truth is even with WFP an average householder would use more water to wash their own windows than we would due to the fact that we are efficient. Using my 2L per £1 earnt theory a £15 would use 30L of water, so that's a couple of buckets per house.

Plus I'm DI only so no waste at all.

Helen

Re: Anyone scared about this drought?
« Reply #12 on: June 10, 2011, 03:36:01 pm »
Not in the slightest, however I may put something on my website to allay any fears.

Wouldn't even bother with putting it on your website......would only alert people to a potential problem

Ian101

  • Posts: 7889
Re: Anyone scared about this drought?
« Reply #13 on: June 10, 2011, 03:49:11 pm »
Come December when its -14 again we will all look back on this thread with a wry smile Im sure  ;)

bumper

  • Posts: 872
Re: Anyone scared about this drought?
« Reply #14 on: June 10, 2011, 04:27:58 pm »
you would be banned from using wfp because its not a necessity,because you can live without your windows being cleaned,i was talking to a guy who i clean windows for,hes a spaceman you know well he said theres more water on the moon than earth he said not to worry coz they going to start pumping the water down to earth,and hes going to give me my own pipeline as long as i clean his windows for free

Re: Anyone scared about this drought?
« Reply #15 on: June 10, 2011, 04:32:05 pm »
Come December when its -14 again we will all look back on this thread with a wry smile Im sure  ;)

What would you like for Xmas?

gary999

  • Posts: 8156
Re: Anyone scared about this drought?
« Reply #16 on: June 10, 2011, 06:03:59 pm »
i personally feel this is really going tyo be a problem in
the near future drought or no drought,its the new green
issue in this country water usage.

conservation of water is going to be a major issue
in this country and we can all harp on about us using
it for a business and the amount of wastage by water companies
but if they can make farmers half the amount of irrigated water
to their crops and lets face it food is a necessity,window cleaning
isnt we might find we will have to compromise on our work
practices.

within ten years i can imagine we will all be on water meters
and water usage for business will be heavily taxed hey the goverments
got to make money somehow.

there is also a alternative to wfp its called a mop and squeegee
and before anybody refers to health and safety its easy to
imagine how the nanny state politics will be relaxed if it fits
a purpose.

i wouldnt worry about it,but i wouldnt toss the idea easily
away that restrictions could be placed on us it def needs
considering

A & J Owen Window Cleaning

  • Posts: 2192
Re: Anyone scared about this drought?
« Reply #17 on: June 10, 2011, 06:11:24 pm »
being a wfp guy i aint worried a bit as i will be filling up at custies houses LOL. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Re: Anyone scared about this drought?
« Reply #18 on: June 10, 2011, 08:32:58 pm »
Not in the slightest, however I may put something on my website to allay any fears.

Wouldn't even bother with putting it on your website......would only alert people to a potential problem

Point taken, however, I think that if challenged you can point to the facts and that you have thought threw the envonmental issues rather than being reactive.


Steve_c

Re: Anyone scared about this drought?
« Reply #19 on: June 10, 2011, 08:39:17 pm »
http://www.bwca.co.uk/news.html
 Read the bit about drought order. And Stop worrying or for you ionic knockers
DEFRA Proposes Changes to Non-Essential Use of Water Restrictions
[April 2007]

The 2004-2006 drought in South East England served to focus attention on the outdated nature of the 1991 Drought Direction, which sets out the circumstances under which water companies may apply for a drought order, and also the restrictions that they are able to impose.

The consultation document sets out proposed changes to current legislation and aims to gather information from interested parties on the suitability of those changes.

The British Window Cleaning Academy is actively involved in this consultation, and recognizes that the proposed changes may have an impact on the way window cleaners work in drought conditions.

However, it must be emphasized that it is not yet clear how the proposed changes would (if at all) affect window cleaners, as the proposal document does not specifically discuss the cleaning of windows by tradesmen, but only generically (ie the cleaning of windows by the householder)

The definition of window cleaning "using sprinkler, hosepipe or similar apparatus" is also the subject of some dispute, especially as to whether this definition extends to the use of water-fed poles or not.

Pure Water - A Manufactured Product
The proposal document makes clear that any restrictions apply only to water that has not been "used". Although no definition of this term is given, some useful guidance is provided;

 "Our proposals apply only to water supplied by water companies under their statutory supply duties. These supply duties are directly linked to quality criteria. The filling of a receptacle by hosepipe from the mains supply, with no intervening use, for a proscribed purpose would be a breach of any restrictions in force. However, once water supplied by a water company has been used then that water is no longer of a kind that was originally supplied"

Section 3.3.3.1 (italics ours)

According to this guidance, restrictions both present and future do not apply to water that is "no longer of a kind that was originally supplied" .It is obvious that once water has passed through the treatment processes which enable it to be used for window cleaning, it too is "no longer of a kind that was originally supplied"

Of course, in order to make use of water for window cleaning with a water-fed pole system, a number of processes are necessary to alter the quality of the water. In fact, the production of pure water for window cleaning is in itself a "use" and in many other industries, purified water is considered a manufactured product, with mains water being simply a raw material. Since water purification is not subject to any restriction, this would be an effective defence if one were needed.

"Hosepipe Ban" to be replaced by "Discretionary Use Ban"
At present, water companies can, at their discretion, impose 'hosepipe bans' in an effort to reduce water consumption by the public. These hosepipe bans are limited in their scope by section 76 of The Water Industry Act 1991.

Put simply, by imposing a hosepipe ban water companies can restrict certain uses of water drawn from their supply network, including washing of private cars, the watering of private gardens etc. Hosepipe bans do not have any impact on window cleaning by method, including the domestic sector. This means, for example, that during a hosepipe ban a householder would not be allowed to wash their car using a hosepipe, but would be allowed to wash their windows
with a hosepipe.

There are several proposed changes to this structure which involve the replacing the 'hosepipe ban' with a more consistent 'discretionary use ban'. Under the proposal this would be much broader in its scope and restrict a wider range of activities than the 'hosepipe ban'.

Section 4.1.4 (v) of the proposal document makes clear that under the new discretionary use ban that, just like the washing of private cars, within the domestic sector window cleaning using a hosepipe will be restricted. By limiting the discretionary use ban to the domestic sector (ie use by householders, not window cleaners) this change would have no impact on the way window cleaners work. This is because window cleaners, whatever type of properties they clean, operate in the commercial, and not the domestic sector.