[andyM]

Im sure you will make up your own mind which set up is right for you and your round.
But a van mounted system with a fixed hosereel and a light pole is the least physically demanding way to go if thats what you're looking for. The only thing I ever lift in the day is a pole and brush which weighs considerably less than 2kgs. 

[groundhog]

groundhog you really do my head in!i dont like liars!you talk BS at times!how can you deny the video ive seen of you?you deleted it after i slated it!

Don't accuse me of lying, show me the post of you slating this imaginary video your talking about!! And when you can't find it or realise it was someone elses video.. I will expect a full apology!!!!!!!!!!!! 

[CLEANCARE WC]

25l barrel plus trolley your talking 30-35 kilos lugging in and out. alot of us have been there and eventually move on because it is hard work and hassle. of course a trolley is brilliant when you start wfp, but i wonder how many people still use a trolley say 7 yrs on?...not many i bet. no doubt someone will now post that they are 10 yrs plus on a trolley but that will be a tiny percentage to those that either started with or moved on to van mount...there is a reason for that.

[groundhog]

25l barrel plus trolley your talking 30-35 kilos lugging in and out. alot of us have been there and eventually move on because it is hard work and hassle. of course a trolley is brilliant when you start wfp, but i wonder how many people still use a trolley say 7 yrs on?...not many i bet. no doubt someone will now post that they are 10 yrs plus on a trolley but that will be a tiny percentage to those that either started with or moved on to van mount...there is a reason for that.

Exactly!!!! 

[wpclean]

I have been using a trolley for over six months, and it has wrecked my car !!!   The water has damaged the seats and the rear suspension is on its way out.       Only saying this as a warning if you have a nice car.

[Mike #1]

not been funny mate but thats your own fault ,   you have failed to put waterproof covers and boot liners in your car , you cant have been taking care when lifting trolley and containers in and out ,  
and you have clearly been illegally overloading your car with to much weight  


I have a 5 door suzuki grand vitara 1.9 ddis big enough with a good suspension to handle the weight,  I have waterproof matting plus 2  large boot liners to line the cargo area  NO probs with water at all nice and dry ,   But i can roll the seats all the way forward and dont have to put anything on the rear seats as these are folded  forward

my pole is placed inside a padded fishing rod sleeve when inside vitara so i dont scuff the interior never had any probs in over 3yrs , I have had 2 other cars in the past but its about been sensible and not overloading ,   but vitara is a workhorse for me i can carry 10 containers , 250 ltrs no probs

Overall with all my other bits of kit as well and  a good amount of fuel in tank i am carrying 350kg at times well within payload .  
 

[TLC]

Seriously mate, if you have a classic veedub you should forget doing wfp from it altogether as it will start to rot pretty soon. Trolley systems are a major hassle, van systems are good but u need the right vehicle to work from. If I was you I would def start as I mean to go on and if you have the option (as u have kind of stated), concentrate on shops n bungalows. Let said brother in law buy in, or sell houses n use money to canvass up shops n bungalows, or find a lad to work with to do upstairs
or rent out houses. If you don't want to ruin your vehicle and want to wind down work a little I see no point in goin wfp at all. Loads of hassle if you not making big money from it. Use this as an opportunity to build up a lovely round of downstairs work! You have the perfect excuse.
Well done for wanting to keep going.
TLC

[brianbarber]

I used aPF trolley for 18 months,
In hindsight it was hard work, especially if do t bu a static storage tank.
After getting van mount, I refined things further by removing filtration stuff, installing on wall in garage, and using a 400 litre slimline static tank which leaves enough room to ge the van in garage on cold nights.
Lugging 25 kg containers in and out of van won't do you or your back any favours.
My advice

Buy
300 litre tank for van,with filters in van if you can't put in garage.
Put filters in garage if possible
Static 350/400 litre tank in garage
Buy SLX pole , this is essential as poles with trolley package are very poor.

You may as well spend the money correctly once, buy wrong you buy twice...



Mr B

[Tom White]

I used aPF trolley for 18 months,
In hindsight it was hard work, especially if do t bu a static storage tank.
After getting van mount, I refined things further by removing filtration stuff, installing on wall in garage, and using a 400 litre slimline static tank which leaves enough room to ge the van in garage on cold nights.
Lugging 25 kg containers in and out of van won't do you or your back any favours.
My advice

Buy
300 litre tank for van,with filters in van if you can't put in garage.
Put filters in garage if possible
Static 350/400 litre tank in garage
Buy SLX pole , this is essential as poles with trolley package are very poor.

You may as well spend the money correctly once, buy wrong you buy twice...



Mr B

Though I think a 300 litre tank is a bit small for the van.  Maybe 400 litre minimum; bigger if possible.

[groundhog]

I used aPF trolley for 18 months,
In hindsight it was hard work, especially if do t bu a static storage tank.
After getting van mount, I refined things further by removing filtration stuff, installing on wall in garage, and using a 400 litre slimline static tank which leaves enough room to ge the van in garage on cold nights.
Lugging 25 kg containers in and out of van won't do you or your back any favours.
My advice

Buy
300 litre tank for van,with filters in van if you can't put in garage.
Put filters in garage if possible
Static 350/400 litre tank in garage
Buy SLX pole , this is essential as poles with trolley package are very poor.

You may as well spend the money correctly once, buy wrong you buy twice...



Mr B

I totally agree, and its what I've been saying from the start... not sure why I get slated and attacked when I say it!!? 

[Seymour Sunshine]

I totally agree, and its what I've been saying from the start... not sure why I get slated and attacked when I say it!!? 

Because you slate and attack anyone who says anything different. Simples!!

[groundhog]

I totally agree, and its what I've been saying from the start... not sure why I get slated and attacked when I say it!!? 

Because you slate and attack anyone who says anything different. Simples!!

OK show me where I have personally attacked someone for disagreeing with my opinion? 

[barry mallett]

if your thinking of getting a trolley or backpack you may as well just stay on the ladders.

[groundhog]

if your thinking of getting a trolley or backpack you may as well just stay on the ladders.

My window cleaning career started off on ladders then went to a trolley (nightmare) then back to ladders, briefly onto a backpack which was marginally better than the trolley.. and finally to my van mount, I just wish I'd done it from the start!! 

[Martin OFarrell]

Thanks to all on the forum who have taken their time to offer help and advice. After much consideration I must admit that I may have to get a van fully fitted out for WFP and forget trolleys and my old VW which has served me well for the last couple of years ! I would have liked to keep it but it is only a van and I do need to make my work as easy as poss. May be on the lookout for a suitable van and set up very soon so if anyone has one or knows of one please contact me (p200mof@hotmail.com). If possible I would only like to spend between £2500-max £4000 for the right van. I'm in Hinckley, Leics. Cheers guys.

[groundhog]

Thanks to all on the forum who have taken their time to offer help and advice. After much consideration I must admit that I may have to get a van fully fitted out for WFP and forget trolleys

Good choice!!!!!!!!!! 

[birdymiller]

Just stick with trad mate, wfp will cost you loads and it will be pretty strenuous. ive gone back to trad after 2 years with wfp, trust me its overated

[Martin OFarrell]

Would love to remain trad but no more ladders for me after stroke, can't take the risk of losing feeling in my arm 15ft up ! Not planning on doing much of the pole work myself anyway, got someone coming in with me and I'll continue to trad the windows downstairs....

[Paul Coleman]

Would love to remain trad but no more ladders for me after stroke, can't take the risk of losing feeling in my arm 15ft up ! Not planning on doing much of the pole work myself anyway, got someone coming in with me and I'll continue to trad the windows downstairs....

I think you've made the right choice re van mount.
Much lighter on the body.  Won't have the blood pumping so hard and risking another stroke - well not as much anyway.

[barry mallett]

Just stick with trad mate, wfp will cost you loads and it will be pretty strenuous. ive gone back to trad after 2 years with wfp, trust me its overated

you mean you cant do it