[Martin OFarrell]

Hi all, looking for some advice regarding WFP systems. Although I'm only 47 and in great physical shape (non-smoker,normal weight and blood pressure etc) I've recently had a small stroke and am recovering well but don't want to risk spending all my days up a ladder again when I resume work. I am a one man band with 300+ customers on a mainly domestic round which I've always done trad. I am quite interested in the trolley systems because I don't really want to permanently mount a tank etc in my classic VW bay window van. Are they as good ? do I have to wheel them all the way round a customers house or can they have sufficient hose to reach ? do you buy the poles seperately to suit your requirements or budget ? Any recommendations or advice will be very gratefully recieved, the choice is a little baffling to say the least ! Here's hoping my customers will wait and support me... Thanks, Mof.

[Steve Sed]

Hi there. I have a Pure Freedom trolley. My next step is a reel with 50 metres for one job stops. For more compact stuff I will use the trolley still with 20-30 metres extension.

Good luck on your recovery.

[poole bay]

You need a big tank with a van with a hose reel and a good pole 650 ltr tank is what I use and give the windows a good old rinse iv had Trolleys and I find filling them up all the time is a pain
Regards Carl

[Martin OFarrell]

I'm assuming that the trolleys don't have much hose then ? Do you have to take them close to the windows you are cleaning ? I'm planning on only using on upper windows and using trad on lower. How often would you have to refill if you had a 50ltr system. I'm hoping to cut my workload down as well so not as many houses per day as well, health is more important than money !

[Mike #1]

if you have enough containers in your van to start with you wont need to keep filling them up, and you dont need a van mount or 650ltrs of water for a days work either.

Anyway i have  a 25 ltr purefreedom trolley really good quality built to last , i carry 10 containers ,250ltrs of water which does me a good days work on domestic ,    I have a attached a 10 mtr retractable air hose reel to my trolley which can be bought of amazon for £35.00 but you need a one with a bracket like this next symbol [   not great i know this will allow you to attach to trolley with large cable ties and its pivioted ,
You will need ez-snap fiitings from gardiners male and female ends ,  

I also have my pole fitted with 10 mtrs of pole hose , clx 25ft from gardiners should do as good light pole and will allow to reach above connys etc , i would but your ro unit from purfreedom and containers if you decide to buy trolley from them ,,   Had my trolley over 3yrs now and still going strong really solid build ,

i manage really well with trolley and personally can never see myself wanting a van mount and you dont want to be spoiling your classic van mate

[Mike #1]

a 50ltr trolley would be bulky to lift in and out of van a 25ltr trolley weighs about 20kg not a bad weight easy in and out 50ltr may weigh 35-40kg only a guess mind , trolley's  come without additional hose, i would'nt bother trading bottoms wfp them all

[bumper]

plus if you get a di and stick it in your van you can quickly fill your emptie containers up fast.

[Martin OFarrell]

Thanks to all who have posted, spoke to pure freedom today and the trolley may be what I need, not planning on doing as much work as before so may get away with less water changes than most. Problem now is that I've never used a pole and haven't a clue about methods. I'm sure I can work it out with a bit of practice ! Thanks again to everyone.

[poole bay]

Pro window how long you been cleaning iv been cleaning 15 years 8 waterfed 250 ltr tanks would clean not that manny houses I use around 500 ltr a day 15 house and after 1 year of using trolley started to slow me down and started to do me head in works for me doing it this way

[matthewprice]

it seems loads use trollys ,i did try it for six months so heavy went for van +tank never looked back good luck

[Tom White]

Go van mount with a 100 meters of microbore; don't bother with a trolley.

Pull up, open van door, grab pole and hose and off you go cleaning.  It's easy.  Now compare that with lugging a heavy trolley out of a van and filling it up with 25 litre containers.  And all that fannying about filling 25 litre containers when it's far easier just filling one big tank in your van.

[dazmond]

tosh has gone all smug now he s got a van mount!!i use a 50L TROLLEY and im very happy with it.yes more strength and power needed to lift barrels,moving trolley etc but less hose across footpaths and roads,no van heaters needed in winter as pump,battery etc is brought in every night,it doubles up as a mini van mount for stand alone jobs,cheaper van insurance as no vehicle modifications and can carry other things when not window cleaning

barrels easy to change over and im not changing them as often with a 50L TROLLEY.

Each system has its pros and cons.

if you ve got a lot of compact work with parking issues then the trolley would be ideal with 30m of extension hose IMO.


REGARDS


DAZMOND

[groundhog]

Do your self a favour and get a van mount, trolleys are for walleys!! ie Dazmond.. enough said  Sorry Dazmond!! 

[mci services]

a 50ltr trolley would be bulky to lift in and out of van a 25ltr trolley weighs about 20kg not a bad weight easy in and out 50ltr may weigh 35-40kg only a guess mind , trolley's  come without additional hose, i would'nt bother trading bottoms wfp them all

your maths is a bit wrong mate I litre of water weighs 1kg so a 25 litre trolley weighs a wee bit more than 20kg when full and the same for a 50litre I know I used to have one

I am not saying don't get a trolley but they are heavy but if you have lots of compact work it could be the best way

[dazmond]

ME A WALLY GROUNDHOG?says the guy who prefers to use a b and q pole than a slx(or cant afford one!)yet he says he charges £25 for a 3 bed semi!!

ive seen your video.was you being serious?you never rinsed the windows properly and whats the point in swapping poles for ground floor windows.running round and prancing like a tit!nobody runs round houses like that on a regular job!

if you was my window cleaner i wouldnt just sack you id have to give you a special leaving present!DAZMONDS HOW TO CLEAN WINDOWS THE PRO WAY VOLUME 1 THE BASICS!

[groundhog]

ME A WALLY GROUNDHOG?says the guy who prefers to use a b and q pole than a slx(or cant afford one!)yet he says he charges £25 for a 3 bed semi!!

ive seen your video.was you being serious?you never rinsed the windows properly and whats the point in swapping poles for ground floor windows.running round and prancing like a tit!nobody runs round houses like that on a regular job!

if you was my window cleaner i wouldnt just sack you id have to give you a special leaving present!DAZMONDS HOW TO CLEAN WINDOWS THE PRO WAY VOLUME 1 THE BASICS!

Did I say Wally? I should have said idiot!!! Who swaps poles for downstairs ? not me thats for sure!! (and you say you watched my vid?) And yes I run between windows all day and work as quickly as I can, I also charge the highest price possible,  my customers are very happy with the work I do and recommend me to their friends. Sorry you don't like the fact that I work hard to provide a good standard of living for my family, to be honest I don't give a monkey's what you think!! 

[Mike #1]

poole bay i have been cleaning windows 14 yrs , just over 3yrs wfp with trolley i can work a 7 hr day and get through  plenty  of work and earn a good wage , i have 1mm jets fitted to my brush which means i can have a lower flow rate hence i use less water ,


Stu mac sorry didnt explain myself properly i meant the trolley with out container of water weighs about 20kg , i only put container on trolley when i have lifted it out ,

Also if you carry as many containers full of water for a days work how are you messing about filling up all the time , and when i get home on a night i fill containers with a pump takes less than ten minutes to fill 10 containers ,

Also as dazmond pointed out if you have streets with parking issues which i have its eaiser with trolley,  if i had a van mount on my round i would find it more of a chore its each to there own at the end of the day,   

[Steve Sed]

I'm assuming that the trolleys don't have much hose then ? Do you have to take them close to the windows you are cleaning ?

Correct. Make sure you get at least 20m extension.

[Paul Coleman]

Van mount and microbore plus lightweight pole is the way to go.
If you've had a small stroke, this way will be the lightest on your body.

[David Kent @ KentKleen]

Hi.
What about this =
Have a look at draper (tools) online.
In your position i would go for the 97 litre tank and pump (atv spot sprayer£206) and just lift it in and out of your bay. (strapped down when working) Carry extra water in 25ltr containers. Its a nice handy size.
Then all you need is your hose reel, pole and some way of producing pure water.
hope this helps.