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woodman:
Hi Derek,

So you have a CFR, can I enquire as to how much you paid for this revolutionary piece of equipment .

Also I beleive it's psi goes up to 400, at what rate do you use it and how long before the recycled solution is unusable.

Derek:
Hi Woodman

I feel awful referring to you by this name I would much sooner use your first name... Sorry.. its a 'me' thing I am very old fashioned.

The CFR machine pump is variable up to 400 psi and I use this pressure on most carpets. Furnishings I turn it down to around 200 psi.

You have to bear in mind that the design of the hand and floor tools is the key as the jet(s) are angled. (low moisture) Three jets to the floor tool with four interchangable jets for the hand tool (one at a time)...just a quick connect system.

Things to really get your head around....

It pumps water at up to 400psi

It has only 'one' two stage vacuum motor

It recycles water

Sound impossible that it can work and I thought so too.
I saw the system some four / five years ago and discounted it completely at the time.

You have to see the floor tool placed onto a Dhurrie rug on a concrete floor with the jets blasting at full throttle for a minute or so. Lift the rug and there is no wet patch on the floor. Seeing really is believing.

I have to admit I cheated though, I purchased the combi hand tool first and used it with a conventional extraction unit.
You certainly empty the tank at a fast rate of knots but the fabric was dryer quicker (due to the design) and boy did it move the dirt.
Brilliant on spots and stains (imagine hitting a spot with 400psi and no overwetting) and especially good on filtration marks.... the hand tool itself is the best piece of kit I have bought for years.  

The recycling bit.... I change the water (so easy) when I feel it is right to do so but they say (the manufacturers) that the water can be recycled up to seven times.
The advantages are that you don't have to keep filling up every five minutes.

I can run the machine with my 33 foot hose and 25 foot extension hose coupled together quite happily for the distance work.

The filtration system is unique and the water goes through a system of four different filtration units each time.
The amount of soil removed is incredible and the carpets are left (as one customer today said) 'springy'
Drying times are much less which is what drew me to the system.

Do look at the CFR machines at the show.

Regards
Derek

ps.  I do NOT sell any machines or chemicals or receive commissions etc. I am just an ordinary carpet cleaner who is rapidly reaching his sell-by-date..plus I do enjoy the carpet / upholstery cleaning business.

Mike Halliday:
Derek,
I've always wondered about the CFR machine, does it have a heater?  if not, after the water has been recycled a couple of times it must start cleaning with cold water. is this so?

I almost bought a CFR  4 years ago, I was given some information on the Ozone generator that could be fitted to it, I thought it was a fantastic idea

Mike

Derek:
Hi Mike

My particular model of  machine does not have a heater although you can get one built in with some of the models. The angled power of the jets seem to do the business.

As my post indicates, or at least I tried to make it so, the CFR machine is so different it took a long time to convince an 'old fogie' like me that it could work let alone does work
Even when I saw it I couldn't or wouldn't believe what I was seeing...I had to try it out to convince myself.

Tought me a valuable lesson...don't close your mind to new technology.

Enjoy your trip to LA and you could bring me back a stick of rock?

Derek

Alex:
I'll take a look at these machines Derek, fingers crossed I hope to give a good deal at the show on 26th ::)

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