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idealrob

  • Posts: 666
Re: £10 to the best one.........
« Reply #20 on: April 30, 2011, 08:36:42 pm »
Nice idea, but I sadly think it will fail, as Ionics mag did no survive, and yes I was a subscriber and paid, even paid for the last year and never got the mag at all that year. The reason most local paper are falling is because of lost advertising revenue, because the internet is so cost effective, adwords etc.
Save your money, and put it to better use

An honest opinion

idealrob

Blue Frog Systems

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Re: £10 to the best one.........
« Reply #21 on: April 30, 2011, 08:48:36 pm »
I would have to dissagree with you idealrob. How can it fail ? its a free publication.... bet you read it atleast once !!

Lee has written for other magazines FOC because he wanted too. This is something Lee obviously enjoys, so it cant fail !!!
Only those who risk going too far will truly know how far they can actually go

Lee Burbidge

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Re: £10 to the best one.........
« Reply #22 on: April 30, 2011, 09:36:52 pm »
Nice idea, but I sadly think it will fail, as Ionics mag did no survive, and yes I was a subscriber and paid, even paid for the last year and never got the mag at all that year. The reason most local paper are falling is because of lost advertising revenue, because the internet is so cost effective, adwords etc.
Save your money, and put it to better use

An honest opinion

idealrob


What have you got to loose idealrob...... you wont loose any money on subscription (as you appear to have with the Ionics mag) I too subscribed to that mag and never got any issues delivered) because its free. If it fails it fails. Personal I think it will not. I will be providing an unrivalled online service magazine.

It is what window cleaners have been waiting for and really want.

It isnt dependant on advertisers either. Many thanks for your input. I really do value eveything mentioned.

So you will subscribe then? .........

BORBRYCE

Re: £10 to the best one.........
« Reply #23 on: April 30, 2011, 09:46:44 pm »
What will your online mag offer that for arguments sake, this very forum does not? I still wish you luck mate but it has already been done, and still is being done, just in another guise. What the hell do you think this forum is by any other name. Think about it. All the info and recomendations and trials are undertaken daily and posted right here (and other forum's) What you offer is nothing new or unique in any way.

Blue Frog Systems

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Re: £10 to the best one.........
« Reply #24 on: April 30, 2011, 11:55:11 pm »
There are alot of window cleaners who dont post, but just read !

How many people read newspapers and or watch the news ?

How many different magazines are there for say motorbikes / boy racers

Only those who risk going too far will truly know how far they can actually go

BORBRYCE

Re: £10 to the best one.........
« Reply #25 on: May 01, 2011, 12:25:07 am »
Unless it has the ability to interact in real time, fuel arguments and has the technology for rapid replies, it will be seen as old time in this day and age. The modern day forum will take a bit of beating to be honest.
Think about it, what will it give us all that we do not already have?

RO-Sheen

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Re: £10 to the best one.........
« Reply #26 on: May 01, 2011, 12:50:29 am »
Nice idea, but I sadly think it will fail, as Ionics mag did no survive, and yes I was a subscriber and paid, even paid for the last year and never got the mag at all that year. The reason most local paper are falling is because of lost advertising revenue, because the internet is so cost effective, adwords etc.
Save your money, and put it to better use

An honest opinion

idealrob


What have you got to loose idealrob...... you wont loose any money on subscription (as you appear to have with the Ionics mag) I too subscribed to that mag and never got any issues delivered) because its free. If it fails it fails. Personal I think it will not. I will be providing an unrivalled online service magazine.

It is what window cleaners have been waiting for and really want.

It isnt dependant on advertisers either. Many thanks for your input. I really do value eveything mentioned.

So you will subscribe then? .........

In my opinion the only reason Ionics mag failed was because it was an ionics mag. It was blatantly a promotional mag for the company and wasnt an independent mag that gave an unbiased opinion of all suppliers and general w/c issues.
However.............the editor of the mag (Philip Hanson?) did a great job professionally putting it together although his content was dictated by the Ionics who paid his wages. He can't really be held accountable for its failure.
Formerly known as GARGAAX

Lee Burbidge

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Re: £10 to the best one.........
« Reply #27 on: May 01, 2011, 08:15:27 am »
What will your online mag offer that for arguments sake, this very forum does not? I still wish you luck mate but it has already been done, and still is being done, just in another guise. What the hell do you think this forum is by any other name. Think about it. All the info and recomendations and trials are undertaken daily and posted right here (and other forum's) What you offer is nothing new or unique in any way.

Why do you buy a book? You think about it...... ;)

Lee Burbidge

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Re: £10 to the best one.........
« Reply #28 on: May 01, 2011, 08:19:21 am »
Unless it has the ability to interact in real time, fuel arguments and has the technology for rapid replies, it will be seen as old time in this day and age. The modern day forum will take a bit of beating to be honest.
Think about it, what will it give us all that we do not already have?

I will be giving you my connections I make....... it will be greater choice, it will be interesting. I dont want to take over the world........ its there if you want to read it, if you dont, thats cool.........
But this topis is not about what we are discussing right now............... send in your story of how you got started Ronnie and you might get £10.00 for it......  ;D

Lee Burbidge

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Re: £10 to the best one.........
« Reply #29 on: May 01, 2011, 08:20:59 am »
Nice idea, but I sadly think it will fail, as Ionics mag did no survive, and yes I was a subscriber and paid, even paid for the last year and never got the mag at all that year. The reason most local paper are falling is because of lost advertising revenue, because the internet is so cost effective, adwords etc.
Save your money, and put it to better use

An honest opinion

idealrob


What have you got to loose idealrob...... you wont loose any money on subscription (as you appear to have with the Ionics mag) I too subscribed to that mag and never got any issues delivered) because its free. If it fails it fails. Personal I think it will not. I will be providing an unrivalled online service magazine.

It is what window cleaners have been waiting for and really want.

It isnt dependant on advertisers either. Many thanks for your input. I really do value eveything mentioned.

So you will subscribe then? .........

In my opinion the only reason Ionics mag failed was because it was an ionics mag. It was blatantly a promotional mag for the company and wasnt an independent mag that gave an unbiased opinion of all suppliers and general w/c issues.
However.............the editor of the mag (Philip Hanson?) did a great job professionally putting it together although his content was dictated by the Ionics who paid his wages. He can't really be held accountable for its failure.

You are absolutley correct  :)

Neil Gornall

  • Posts: 640
Re: £10 to the best one.........
« Reply #30 on: May 01, 2011, 10:24:32 am »
There are a few people who don’t seem to think an online mag would work, and seem to think it’s the same as a forum.
I totally disagree, if a mag is done well it is a totally different experience from a forum.
I like online mags.
For those who have never tried them, don’t dismiss it till you have seen it.
Here is an example of one I use, ........
http://issue.monkeymag.co.uk/1D4dabf786e8a98012.cde



Neil Gornall

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Re: £10 to the best one.........
« Reply #31 on: May 01, 2011, 10:31:19 am »
PS, Page 8-9, French fire fighters race. Maybe the trad guys could do something similar??  ;D

Lee Burbidge

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Re: £10 to the best one.........
« Reply #32 on: May 01, 2011, 11:11:28 am »
PS, Page 8-9, French fire fighters race. Maybe the trad guys could do something similar??  ;D

Great input Neil....... we have also been toying with the idea of buying that page flip software. This mag would look so cool on an ipad, with your coffee and some available reading time to check out stuff happening in the whole world of window cleaning....... from extreme window cleaning in Alaska to honest reviews on products forum members rant about.

All good stuff......  thing is buddy, I know that you can not please everyone. Only the Brits could be negative about an online magazine they have not yet read...... oh and is free lol    ;D ;D ;D

BORBRYCE

Re: £10 to the best one.........
« Reply #33 on: May 01, 2011, 12:00:14 pm »
Lee, it's window cleaning, bloody boring at the best of times. Karlos has been doing one for years.
http://robinson-solutions.blogspot.com/ He does competitions and stuff, world stories, and reviews. Like I said, it's just not new mate.

AuRavelling79

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Re: £10 to the best one.........
« Reply #34 on: May 01, 2011, 12:07:21 pm »
I be leave ewe will knead two make shore yore spell chequer is eh good won.
It's a game of three halves!

idealrob

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Re: £10 to the best one.........
« Reply #35 on: May 01, 2011, 04:41:07 pm »
I am sorry, did not realise its an online  mag, thats why i was thinking it wouldnt work, yes I will subscribe,, and do agree with other posts about ionics being biased, but would still subscribe today if it was still going. I like the forthright way the ionics mag quoted about the use of ladders, and used to show the mag to many commercial customers and get lots of jobs.
Best of luck

idealrob

Lee Burbidge

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Re: £10 to the best one.........
« Reply #36 on: May 02, 2011, 10:20:24 am »
I be leave ewe will knead two make shore yore spell chequer is eh good won.

Something original from you would be nice.

Lee Burbidge

  • Posts: 2287
Re: £10 to the best one.........
« Reply #37 on: May 02, 2011, 10:24:04 am »
I am sorry, did not realise its an online  mag, thats why i was thinking it wouldnt work, yes I will subscribe,, and do agree with other posts about ionics being biased, but would still subscribe today if it was still going. I like the forthright way the ionics mag quoted about the use of ladders, and used to show the mag to many commercial customers and get lots of jobs.
Best of luck

idealrob

Thank you ideal..... your support is appreciated   ;D

AuRavelling79

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Re: £10 to the best one.........
« Reply #38 on: May 02, 2011, 09:55:01 pm »
I be leave ewe will knead two make shore yore spell chequer is eh good won.

Something original from you would be nice.

 ;D

It's a game of three halves!

Nick Wareham

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Re: £10 to the best one.........
« Reply #39 on: May 03, 2011, 06:15:42 pm »
What could you offer that this forum doesn't?

Also, no offense, but you seem a bit full of yourself.  Not sure you're going to get much support with that attitude of yours.

Eg "less of your lip" lol Ronnie has as much right to comment as you or anyone else does.

If you don't lilke to hear other peoples opinions, then a forum is really the wrong place for you isnt it?