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Doctor Carpet (Ret'd)

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Anybody going on the NCCA Health & Safety Course?
« on: April 27, 2011, 06:58:05 pm »
This course looks really good. It covers The Law; Lone Working; Emergency plans; Work enviroment guidelines; Slips & trips; Risk Assessment; Method Statements; Health & Safetly Policies; COSHH Assessment.

Paul Pearce is running it and apparantly you get a CD with lots of useful templates for some of the above issues.

Anybody else going as it's on Thursday 16th June?

Sounds just like what we've all been asking for. I guess we'll need to contact the NCCA office for further details and place availability.

I for one am definitely up for it.

Rog
Diplomacy: the art of letting other people have your way

derek west

Re: Anybody going on the NCCA Health & Safety Course?
« Reply #1 on: April 27, 2011, 07:13:20 pm »
theyre also having a carpet cleaners day out for the family in the autumn,  members and non members, i'll be there if i get details.
been thinking of joining and changing it from the inside ;D

creighton foyle

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Re: Anybody going on the NCCA Health & Safety Course?
« Reply #2 on: April 27, 2011, 07:13:50 pm »
i did a nebosh course in health and safety and one thing i did learn is you can get most of the information for free on the government  health and safety website. its just another money spinner for the ncca.
 when i did my carpet cleaning course at the ncca last year paul was saying how he was looking at doing the nebosh course himself so he has probably done it in the last six months or so. www.hse.gov.uk take a look at the site.

wynne jones

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Re: Anybody going on the NCCA Health & Safety Course?
« Reply #3 on: April 27, 2011, 08:27:16 pm »
theyre also having a carpet cleaners day out for the family in the autumn,  members and non members, i'll be there if i get details.
been thinking of joining and changing it from the inside ;D

Tip Powerful magnets+pacemakers=vacancies on the board. ;D
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Re: Anybody going on the NCCA Health & Safety Course?
« Reply #4 on: May 01, 2011, 03:57:00 pm »
This course sounds mind numbingly boring!  ;D


hotsteam

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Re: Anybody going on the NCCA Health & Safety Course?
« Reply #5 on: May 01, 2011, 04:10:19 pm »
Yes it probably is boring but do you want to stay out of jail and keep your house ? Regards Hotsteam

creighton foyle

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Re: Anybody going on the NCCA Health & Safety Course?
« Reply #6 on: May 01, 2011, 04:38:31 pm »
as i said in my earlier post you can get all the info you need on the h&s site for free , you can even get some examples of risk assesments etc for your particular industry. another site to look at www.healthandsafety.co.uk

steve scotter

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Re: Anybody going on the NCCA Health & Safety Course?
« Reply #7 on: May 01, 2011, 05:54:29 pm »

You might be able to pick up information on a web site but it would be better if you understood what you supposed to do?

Understanding Health and Safety, having safe systems of work is a legal requirement.

Should someone complain about your working practices their Lawers would be looking for weak H&S.

But you could hope no one decideds to sue you because of your acts or omissions.

Steve
Nebosh General Certificate
Steve Scotter Tech IOSH
IOSH Registered Health and Safety Technical Practitioner
www. mould-detectives.co.uk
www. extreme cleaners training.co.uk

Re: Anybody going on the NCCA Health & Safety Course?
« Reply #8 on: May 01, 2011, 06:04:04 pm »

You might be able to pick up information on a web site but it would be better if you understood what you supposed to do?

Understanding Health and Safety, having safe systems of work is a legal requirement.

Should someone complain about your working practices their Lawers would be looking for weak H&S.

But you could hope no one decideds to sue you because of your acts or omissions.

Steve
Nebosh General Certificate


Question Steve.............

Are you a carpet cleaner, or do you just come on here to spout off about H & S to us lesser beings who have not done any of the courses that you have ???

steve scotter

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Re: Anybody going on the NCCA Health & Safety Course?
« Reply #9 on: May 01, 2011, 06:27:23 pm »
Hector

Yes I clean carpets, quite often I work in addmin these days but I do get out and clean carpets.

Steve
Steve Scotter Tech IOSH
IOSH Registered Health and Safety Technical Practitioner
www. mould-detectives.co.uk
www. extreme cleaners training.co.uk

creighton foyle

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Re: Anybody going on the NCCA Health & Safety Course?
« Reply #10 on: May 02, 2011, 12:27:29 am »
most health and safety is common sense all you need is to be guided in the right direction and as repeated earlier the h & s website does just that .there is nothing complicated or dangerous about the work most of us do and if if you follow sensible work practices you cant go wrong.

you are not going to be asked for a risk assesment or a method statement by a domestic customer so if you only do domestic work then as long as you are not like mr bean and you are fully aware of the dangers your equipment could pose to others and use it within the manufacturers guidelines you cant go wrong.

commercial work on the other hand could be more of a problem especially if the company you are working for has an onsite h & s advisor as he may well ask you for a risk assesment or a method statement but what is a method statement ?, its you telling the company how you intend to carry out the work you have been contracted to do,
 ie the carpets will be cleaned out of normal working hours when all the staff have left the building,  the chemicals being used are non toxic and safe for people and animals data sheets are enclosed , wet floor signs will be in place and the waste water will be diposed of via the toilets and not the drains. all electrical appliances used have current pat and all staff have been trained to use the equipment provided.

maybe i have over simplified it but for carpet cleaners there is very little need to pay for this info.

if anyone wants to be properly trained in h&s www.rrc.co.uk do the full nebosh course as e learning for about £490 + vat exams are another £100 or so and then you are fully qualified to be a health and safety advisor and believe me the course is not difficult it is all about common sense. you may also be able to do the course at your local college either over a two week period with exams at the end or as a one day a week course for about twelve weeks these courses are sometimes more expensive but as an example bridgend college did the course last year over 16 weeks for abour £400.

if paul pierce is doing the training then he has done the course in the last six months, wonder if he paid for it or the ncca, if it was the ncca then it came out of the members subscriptions so why should you have to pay again for the training ? just a thought, now i'm in trouble ::)