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Paul H

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Water in Water out
« on: April 26, 2011, 02:39:39 pm »
Out of interest regarding HWE say you use 1 bucket (3 gallon / 15ltrs) when cleaning a carpet.....how much of or what is the expected level of that bucket would you be expected to extract?..

Colin Day

Re: Water in Water out
« Reply #1 on: April 26, 2011, 02:41:17 pm »
I often ponder about that myself..... ???

davep

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Re: Water in Water out
« Reply #2 on: April 26, 2011, 03:02:06 pm »
Simples if using a porty measure what goes in and measure what you collect ???

Colin Day

Re: Water in Water out
« Reply #3 on: April 26, 2011, 03:08:44 pm »
Simples if using a porty measure what goes in and measure what you collect ???

Ok, I know what I get, but probably like most on here, I'm always concerned that maybe I should be getting more waste water than I currently get. I'll let someone dive in and get ripped to shreds... ;D

Maybe a poll would be a good idea.... ;)

Mike Halliday

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Re: Water in Water out
« Reply #4 on: April 26, 2011, 03:09:55 pm »
I would think that you should aim for between 75%-80%

so if you are using 3 buckets on a through lounge which is 45lts then you should get at least 2 buckets out of a wool carpet and 2.5 buckets out of a man-made fibre

but this is only an educated guess
Mike Halliday.  www.henryhalliday.co.uk

derek west

Re: Water in Water out
« Reply #5 on: April 26, 2011, 03:25:15 pm »
on average you should be leaving 20%-25% in wool
and 5%-10% in man made

based on the water retention of the materials. though i could be wrong.

clinton

Re: Water in Water out
« Reply #6 on: April 26, 2011, 03:34:57 pm »
Id go with mike n derek paul or there abouts.

You wont get all that you put in out ..

Jamie Pearson

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Re: Water in Water out
« Reply #7 on: April 26, 2011, 03:45:10 pm »
I will test this later this week.

I have a carpet that is currently outside in the industrial estate having trucks driven over it.

Gonna do a head to head video with a rug doctor and a Powr-Flite PFX.

Will measure the recovery amount for both too.

derek west

Re: Water in Water out
« Reply #8 on: April 26, 2011, 04:36:21 pm »
ive changed my mind, suppose it depends how much you put in, if i put 10,000,000,000 gallons into a living room carpet i reckon i'll leave about half a percent in it. ;D

garry22

Re: Water in Water out
« Reply #9 on: April 26, 2011, 04:38:31 pm »
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Gonna do a head to head video with a rug doctor and a Powr-Flite PFX.


You would think that the Power-flite would murder it but maybe not (heresy I hear you cry!)?

Using the same chemicals, that may produce a rather interesting result. Look forward to the video.

Jamie Pearson

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Re: Water in Water out
« Reply #10 on: April 26, 2011, 05:21:23 pm »
We have actually bought in some Rug Doctor cleaner as we want to show what can be achieved by a professional cleaner vs a DIY.

All be it that the operator will be experienced.

I may even have our administrator clean against me as she has no experience at all.

I recently did a demo in a nightclub with a Hydromist Champ Supreme (now discontinued) and a PFX1350 using the same procedures and chemicals and was amazed at the outcome.

garry22

Re: Water in Water out
« Reply #11 on: April 26, 2011, 06:47:23 pm »
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I recently did a demo in a nightclub with a Hydromist Champ Supreme (now discontinued) and a PFX1350 using the same procedures and chemicals and was amazed at the outcome

In what way Jamie?

Paul H

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Re: Water in Water out
« Reply #12 on: April 26, 2011, 08:15:18 pm »
mike...me too i get about 75%....I know its more than 50% for sure!...was curious whether i should be getting more......thanks folks for the response and setting my mind at rest..

Jamie Pearson

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Re: Water in Water out
« Reply #13 on: April 26, 2011, 08:38:11 pm »
There will be quite a few factors. Evaporation due to the machines heating system. Airflow due to carpet construction. Variations in fibre absorbancy. Presence of protectors. Length of hose runs.

Jamie Pearson

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Re: Water in Water out
« Reply #14 on: April 26, 2011, 08:41:03 pm »
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I recently did a demo in a nightclub with a Hydromist Champ Supreme (now discontinued) and a PFX1350 using the same procedures and chemicals and was amazed at the outcome

In what way Jamie?

Visually there wasn't much difference. The chemicals did most of the work. It will be interesting to see if one area re-soils faster than the other so we can evaluate how deep each machine cleaned.

Colin Day

Re: Water in Water out
« Reply #15 on: April 26, 2011, 09:25:17 pm »
mike...me too i get about 75%....I know its more than 50% for sure!...was curious whether i should be getting more......thanks folks for the response and setting my mind at rest..

Mine too ;D

Mike Halliday

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Re: Water in Water out
« Reply #16 on: April 26, 2011, 09:42:23 pm »
don't forget you could leave 50% of the water in a wool carpet and it might not 'feel' wet, but 20% on a polypropylene might feel a lot wetter.

plus a wool carpet with 10% water retention might dry slower than a nylon with 25%,  like CSUK said its not just about what you leave behind.
Mike Halliday.  www.henryhalliday.co.uk

Paul H

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Re: Water in Water out
« Reply #17 on: April 26, 2011, 09:47:34 pm »
thats why aim to be a god one day mike :o

Simon@arenaclean

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Re: Water in Water out
« Reply #18 on: April 26, 2011, 10:56:39 pm »
Take into account if you bucket water in using a graduated bucket it's unlikely you will put in 10 litres from a 10 litre bucket, as that measurement is "brimming" or just below the lip.

Paul H

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Re: Water in Water out
« Reply #19 on: April 27, 2011, 02:40:26 pm »
watched this today.....2 rooms ... 3 buckets in ...just over 2.5 oot...