why take the p**s out our trade and lower ourselves it goes to show when loadsa people from other trades join our profession that there is more too it than cleaning windows why not take on apprentices and train them up to run successful window cleaning businesses, the role entails many skills not just cleaning crap off a window, negotiation skills,sales skills,presentation skills, technical skills, mathmatics,accounts, general office skills, telephone skills how many of our youth are out of work if some of us could help show these youngsters how to run a business they could be earning much better money than they ever could and give them the confidence to start out on there own once they have neccesary skills