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Londoner

Leaflets out in force - must be spring
« on: March 25, 2011, 07:08:30 am »
Collected two different new leaflets this week from my customers who had saved them for me. Never heard of either of them before.
Yesterday driving less than a half a mile from my home I saw a new van working at a house. Looked like a pure freedom setup, makes a change, the new ones are usually Ionics.
Last week I saw another new van working around the area.

It must be spring. Now photos of the new vans and the new leaflets will be going off to HMRC which I do routinely now. Suprising how many of them you never see again.

bobby p

Re: Leaflets out in force - must be spring
« Reply #1 on: March 25, 2011, 07:14:28 am »
sounds as if you are getting nervy Vince

Londoner

Re: Leaflets out in force - must be spring
« Reply #2 on: March 25, 2011, 07:27:09 am »
sounds as if you are getting nervy Vince

No it happens every year, the only difference is that a few years ago you didn't see full colour leaflets and brand new vans. Like I said though, most disappear again.

supernova77

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Re: Leaflets out in force - must be spring
« Reply #3 on: March 25, 2011, 11:59:31 am »
Why do you report them to HMRC?

Andy

Jackal

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Re: Leaflets out in force - must be spring
« Reply #4 on: March 25, 2011, 12:39:51 pm »
Why do you report them to HMRC?

Andy

because he over charges and is scared of the competition most likely,get a life

sunshine windows

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Re: Leaflets out in force - must be spring
« Reply #5 on: March 25, 2011, 02:06:27 pm »
I say fair play to you Vince.

If they're declaring their earnings they have nothing to worry about. If not they deserve everything they get.
To climb mount fuji you must first find a path
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scud

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Re: Leaflets out in force - must be spring
« Reply #6 on: March 25, 2011, 04:13:10 pm »
Collected two different new leaflets this week from my customers who had saved them for me. Never heard of either of them before.
Yesterday driving less than a half a mile from my home I saw a new van working at a house. Looked like a pure freedom setup, makes a change, the new ones are usually Ionics.
Last week I saw another new van working around the area.

It must be spring. Now photos of the new vans and the new leaflets will be going off to HMRC which I do routinely now. Suprising how many of them you never see again.

  Why do you do that?

   I think you are well out of order, the blokes are just trying to make a living and you are being a c**t.

Frankybadboy

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Re: Leaflets out in force - must be spring
« Reply #7 on: March 25, 2011, 04:16:20 pm »
Collected two different new leaflets this week from my customers who had saved them for me. Never heard of either of them before.
Yesterday driving less than a half a mile from my home I saw a new van working at a house. Looked like a pure freedom setup, makes a change, the new ones are usually Ionics.
Last week I saw another new van working around the area.

It must be spring. Now photos of the new vans and the new leaflets will be going off to HMRC which I do routinely now. Suprising how many of them you never see again.

  Why do you do that?

   I think you are well out of order, the blokes are just trying to make a living and you are being a c**t.
so you aint going to say anything when a newbie pulls up and takes your work, ::) ::) ::)we see

Jackal

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Re: Leaflets out in force - must be spring
« Reply #8 on: March 25, 2011, 04:34:39 pm »
if you arnt ripping the customer off and you do a good job what have you got to worry about,just cuz you see another van or windy in same area as you,you actually think its ok to try get them in trouble,give em a break they just same as you were once trying make ends meet,its basically going back to the "this is my patch stay away"but aint got the bo**ocks tell them yourself so u go tell on them

do you declare your xmas tips i reckon you'll say yes of course i do, if not you want your details passing on to the tax office aswell

g newton

Re: Leaflets out in force - must be spring
« Reply #9 on: March 25, 2011, 04:44:46 pm »
Why do you report them to HMRC?

Andy

wasted window cleaning should have been a copper or traffic warden

Ian101

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Re: Leaflets out in force - must be spring
« Reply #10 on: March 25, 2011, 05:11:23 pm »
just been doing some second cleans on a few houses i canvassed last month one old dear told me it was lucky i came along when i did as 2 more windies had canvassed her the week after i had cleaned them .... guess the ones that said we will let u know prob went with one of the ones that went knocking after me ... such is life  :)

Richard iSparkle

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Re: Leaflets out in force - must be spring
« Reply #11 on: March 25, 2011, 08:19:45 pm »
Collected two different new leaflets this week from my customers who had saved them for me. Never heard of either of them before.
Yesterday driving less than a half a mile from my home I saw a new van working at a house. Looked like a pure freedom setup, makes a change, the new ones are usually Ionics.
Last week I saw another new van working around the area.

It must be spring. Now photos of the new vans and the new leaflets will be going off to HMRC which I do routinely now. Suprising how many of them you never see again.

  Why do you do that?

   I think you are well out of order, the blokes are just trying to make a living and you are being a c**t.

its fine making a living, but there are laws that we all have to abide by.  how can we compete with people working illegally?  i declare my income and pay tax, and so should any other WCs.  if they're all above board they've got nothing to worry about.  if they aren't it's their problem.
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windiewasher

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Re: Leaflets out in force - must be spring
« Reply #12 on: March 25, 2011, 08:49:17 pm »
Im going to start doing the same.good call m8.too many vans and cars going round my way no signs on a few.
Takings off all first cleans till march 7th 2014
October  total=  cleaned  extra per month
November = cleaned extra per month
Total £  so far.

LSB

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Re: Leaflets out in force - must be spring
« Reply #13 on: March 25, 2011, 10:39:50 pm »
hi vince ,

 luckily i cant afford a new van ! , leaflets currently going out !
aswell as the new vans / wc s , have also seen a few others in old cars that i dont know / recognise .

i have also recently found that some of the gardeners ( mainly brazilian and portugese ) in hatch end and pinner are offering to do their customers windows while they are there.

mikecam

Re: Leaflets out in force - must be spring
« Reply #14 on: March 25, 2011, 10:57:44 pm »
Collected two different new leaflets this week from my customers who had saved them for me. Never heard of either of them before.
Yesterday driving less than a half a mile from my home I saw a new van working at a house. Looked like a pure freedom setup, makes a change, the new ones are usually Ionics.
Last week I saw another new van working around the area.

It must be spring. Now photos of the new vans and the new leaflets will be going off to HMRC which I do routinely now. Suprising how many of them you never see again.

Trying to get rid of the competition is definatley a market strategy. Usually employed by large corrupt organisations, but i suppose if you're a worried window cleaner its an option !!!!

christopher b

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Re: Leaflets out in force - must be spring
« Reply #15 on: March 26, 2011, 12:15:46 am »
"O" dear sounds like one of those mine is bigger than yours situations.
being we are having some nice weather I am out and about with flyer's, did 250 today with 400 aimed for tomorrow and 1000 for next week and most of the time my little girl comes for a walk with me ( helping daddy)
to be honest I get more of a buzz out of seeing my little Lady enjoying helping than if I get a call from a flyer!
when out I always wear my business tops embroidered with company, and carry id card and photo driving license just in case someone asks me to prove who I am. so if anyone wants to send my flyer's to the inland revenue go ahead but I ain't doing there windows if I get a call from one of them unless there local.
its not the guys who have put there money in equipment, insurance and that smart work wear. its the ones in the hoodies that lurk around with kit that looks like its seen better days or would not pass a safety check if using ladders. or my pet hate now seeing them with water tanks tied to old clapped out trailers just waiting to splatter that old Lady at the crossing!

and on to vans, I have two and neither of them are sign written. I don't do it as around here its like putting an invitation card on the vans inviting the druggies and general riff Raff to come and have a look inside.  now is this making me any different? if answer NO thank you, if answer YES then hey I'm registered and have accounts and also a couple of filling cabinets full of firkin paperwork from the past umpteen years. so if you really want to be different get your company name tattooed on your arse.

apart from all this everyone has there own opinion and free will and for those legally trying to make a living " good on you and good luck" no mater what you drive or do your work with.

G Griffin

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Re: Leaflets out in force - must be spring
« Reply #16 on: March 26, 2011, 12:48:42 am »
hi vince ,

 luckily i cant afford a new van ! , leaflets currently going out !
aswell as the new vans / wc s , have also seen a few others in old cars that i dont know / recognise .

i have also recently found that some of the gardeners ( mainly brazilian and portugese ) in hatch end and pinner are offering to do their customers windows while they are there.

As an add on, I`ve been offering to do Brazilians for some of my tidier looking female customers.
I don`t care if I get reported. My motto is- hair today, gone tomorrow  ;).
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Re: Leaflets out in force - must be spring
« Reply #17 on: March 26, 2011, 02:34:54 am »
I do believe we need to pay tax, but grass folk no I believe “what goes around comes around" Vince why don’t you phone every fire station they all do windows and have a income as-well. No Mate it’s not good to be a grass. I will beat they with good work and customer service its wins all the time. Because I am a pro I do not fear competition I am better than that, ??? ??? ???

Londoner

Re: Leaflets out in force - must be spring
« Reply #18 on: March 26, 2011, 08:25:13 am »
Well I sure put the cat among the pigeons there. But I stand by what I do, and I bang them in to the Benefits Hotline as well. That doesn't eliminate the competition, they have no choice but to clean windows after they have lost their benefits.

I am merely doing my patriotic duty, getting down the benefits bill. Besides which I hate the scrounging scum and their ways.

Dave Mills

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Re: Leaflets out in force - must be spring
« Reply #19 on: March 26, 2011, 09:02:12 am »
I'm with Vince.

Why all this talk of "grassing"?  Why not call it "doing your civic duty?"

Anyone who fiddles their taxes is stealing money off you.  You're paying more tax because of people like that.  Stuff them.  You'd report a burglar to the authorities.

Anyone attacking Vince should ask themselves why they stand with the people breaking the law rather than with all the people who don't.