[mark blundell]

Hi All just a quick question I have cleaned the mother in laws windows practicing before I start on custys windows and she is really pleased apart from the top sills I am using a gardeners pole with a dual flocked super lite brush and find the top sills awkward to access any tips would be great. Or do I just need to buy a sill brush but surly you dont keep changing brushes?

[Lee GLS]

dont buy a sill brush and swap, i just get the brush at the best angle i can, stand more to the side of the window, and brush it as best you can.

[SB Cleaning]

dont buy a sill brush and swap, i just get the brush at the best angle i can, stand more to the side of the window, and brush it as best you can.

I do the same, not had any complaints so far

[awcs]

think you should drop that customer !!!

[mark blundell]

think you should drop that customer !!!

Yeah way to fussy what do people want for nothing lol
No I can't moan the father in law is a pro photographer so got loads of great images for my web site next flyers ect

[Smudgeoff Cleaning Services]

 hi Mark,

I have a clx 27 with a head that can turn 90 degrees so the brush tips are on the sill works a treat.

Darren

[L.J.Thorpe]

at the risk of causing a heated debate : you cant do a particularly good job on any upstairs sills with a brush its a trade off against the result you would get from wiping em down off a ladder,even after you rinse and wipe off there is often excess water leeching out from bottom of window frame and it can trail muck out with it,par for the course but most customers not that bothered on my round,just do good job on down cills and you should be fine


please note: this is my experience,other users experiences may differ

[mikecam]

If you're trying to clean off years of black ingrained dirt off white UPVC sills where the windows have been done trad and the sills not wiped then you will need UPVC cleaner and elbow grease.

[Smudger]

as mike pointed out, if it's years of ground in discolouration then the only way is to hand scrub it - but that should be an extra service with appropiate £££ added.

if it's green or dirt a brush will remove it - you need to adjust the head so the brush faces down and give a good scrub
this is one reason 1st cleans take longer - once clean future cleans are just a 'wipe over' with brush
as it's family you can at least look at the sills from inside to see what the problem is.


Darran

[Griffus]

How about a 30' high sill, or 30 + of them.    All following build cleans so clean to start.   Sash windows each pane 4'x3'.   Sill about 7" deep. 

Will WFP cope with these or is trad the only answer?

[Tom White]

dont buy a sill brush and swap, i just get the brush at the best angle i can, stand more to the side of the window, and brush it as best you can.

This is the correct technique! 

[Blue Frog Systems]

On a first clean do the top windows, then re-angle the brush to get the sills propperley. Takes longer, but does the job.

After that i only need to sweep over the sill which requires no change in the angle of the brush

[ascjim]

dont buy a sill brush and swap, i just get the brush at the best angle i can, stand more to the side of the window, and brush it as best you can.

^^Like that. Step to the side and run your brush along the sill "Arms in the air"

[Smudger]

Ian - builders cleans would be done by hand, but then i would not be charging a normal w/c fee either

it would be a 2 man job, or failing that make arragements to clean the sill from inside - dash windows give
easy access to the sills.

Darran

[Paul Coleman]

I suppose for the first clean it's probably better to get up there and do it manually really - so long as the access is safe.  I rarely do though.  Thereafter it's generally pretty loose stuff but you can never be certain.
I did get caught out a few weeks ago though.  The customer had cavity wall insulation since my last visit so loads of brick dust on the sills.  No problem I thought as it's all loose and will brush easily.  Unfortunately one of the upper sills was wooden and the paintwork and timber were very pitted so the dust stayed in the pits. I'm glad she noticed before I left.  I just went upstairs and wiped it from inside.

[Tom White]

I generally find that customers aren't generally that fussy.  I mean don't get me wrong - I do a decent job - I can't remember the last complaint I had; but I find as long as the downstairs windows sills are looking good, I'm not that bothered about the upstairs.

I'll give 'em a swipe with the brush and move on.

I mean I couldn't tell you what my own upstairs sills look like; wait there I'll have a look...

Yeh, they're okay! 

[mark blundell]

cheers for all the reply's guys i think alter the angle of the brush on first cleans is the answer then wipe at an angle.

she's not that fussy i did ask her to give her honest opinion and she is overall really pleased with the result ( best clean they have ever had) it was just something she pointed out that potential customers might complain about.

i did get a water mark/smear on the back door glass but i put that down to trading it about 8 times then wfp about the same amount of times for pictures i think all that water pulled dirt from all the nooks and crannies of the pvc door fraim

[Wc Solutions]

get yourself an aquadapter to save a bit of water.

we use vikan sills brushes every day - from gardiners: red n green ones.

clean nthe window, turn the water off with your aquadapter then wipe sills with the sills brush, next window water back .....

[mark blundell]

yeah i have been looking into them and the triggers just wasn't sure. i even thought about putting a little tap in at the brush head 

[Griffus]

Ian - builders cleans would be done by hand, but then i would not be charging a normal w/c fee either

it would be a 2 man job, or failing that make arragements to clean the sill from inside - dash windows give
easy access to the sills.

Darran

Hi Smudger, we are the ones that do the build cleans. WFP would be no use at all at this stage.

My question was posed to get opinions on how the WFP guys would approach a reasonably clean sill, 30' or so high.  

Incidentally, I have cleaned all sorts of windows (build cleans) but these very large sash's have been the most demanding I have worked with. Never mind, only a thousand or so left :-)